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Have The Texans FINALLY Turned The Corner

ArlingtonTexan said:
The issue for the Texans is not playing a good game...it is playing multiple good games in a row. They won't turn the corner until we see them run off a winning streak before Nov. If they are a real threat to make the playoffs running off victories over the Bengals, 49ers and Bills needs to happen. we have completed step one.
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Excellent. Exactly right.
 
You can never see the corner while you are turning it, only after you have passed it by a good margin. We are still turning but haven't seen the end where it gets straight.
 
To me we are still not a confident team. I don't like what the offense was doing during those last 2 drives before the "take a knee" drive. A real good team would have closed that game out on that drive that Slaton fumbled and would have won 35-17. Instead we get called for holding near the goal line, get backed up, and then turn the ball over. The following drive we don't go try to put the game out of reach. We simply play it safe by keeping the ball on the ground and then punt, giving the Bengals another shot to do something on offense.

Fortunately we drafted a guy named Brian Cushing who took it upon himself to close out the Bengals.
 
yeah we turned the corner

the corner of a Maze :shades:

and we cant seem to find our way out LOL
 
This is the first game this season that the offense, defense and special teams have finally played for 4 quarters.

If that's "the corner," then I guess we turned it. To me, we just did what we were supposed to do.
 
Hookem Horns said:
To me we are still not a confident team. I don't like what the offense was doing during those last 2 drives before the "take a knee" drive. A real good team would have closed that game out on that drive that Slaton fumbled and would have won 35-17. Instead we get called for holding near the goal line, get backed up, and then turn the ball over. The following drive we don't go try to put the game out of reach. We simply play it safe by keeping the ball on the ground and then punt, giving the Bengals another shot to do something on offense.

Fortunately we drafted a guy named Brian Cushing who took it upon himself to close out the Bengals.
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I think Kubiak is in turmoil right now. He has finally realized and accepted that this is a throwing team and that the running game will be successful on the back of the passing game. But, in crucial situations, he still wants to revert to how things should be on offense. It's a frustrating process but I think the coaches are learning the identity of this team. I expect we'll start seeing more aggression in those situations in the coming weeks.
 
they are turning the corner but have not turned the corner.

lets put a 3 game winning streak together this weekend against San Fran, and we will talk turkey.

in addition, if the Ravens, Bengals, Jets, and Dolphins continue to have average seasons, the Texans could find themselves in the playoff hunt even after such a disastrous beginning of the season and after the goal line failures of Chris Brown costing us 13% of our season.
 
dalemurphy said:
I think Kubiak is in turmoil right now. He has finally realized and accepted that this is a throwing team and that the running game will be successful on the back of the passing game. But, in crucial situations, he still wants to revert to how things should be on offense. It's a frustrating process but I think the coaches are learning the identity of this team. I expect we'll start seeing more aggression in those situations in the coming weeks.
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Glad I read each page of thread rather than just documenting my thoughts. DM, I was going to post just what you did. In the NFL most coaches have a run first throw 2nd mentallity, especially when 3 things can happen when you pass & 2 are bad. (Darryl Royal UT coach, I believe). I agree with that philosophy until it doesn't work. Seems as if Kubes has changed but my fear is he will revert. Hopefully he will look at our rushing avg 2.8 & stick with the plan developed for Bengals.
 
Texan_Bill said:
No. They have about 4 to 5 more games of consistent football to play. They accomplish that, then I would say..................... maybe.
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I hope we have more than 4 to 5 to play to turn corner. 4 more would only be 7-9.

We should be favored in all but 3 of the remaining games if you ask me. I will favor the Colts twice and the Pats against us. Last week I would have said the Seahawks but they looked like warmed over diarrhea yesterday against Zona in Seattle.
 
HOU-TEX said:
For all the "corners" we've turned you'd think we're a NASCAR driver.
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The biggest corner in franchise history was turned when Fred Bennett was shown the bench! Now that is the kind of move that can change the fortunes of a franchise...

and, I'm only slightly exaggerating.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
I hope we have more than 4 to 5 to play to turn corner. 4 more would only be 7-9.

We should be favored in all but 3 of the remaining games if you ask me. I will favor the Colts twice and the Pats against us. Last week I would have said the Seahawks but they looked like warmed over diarrhea yesterday against Zona in Seattle.
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SH, I like our chances in every game other than at Indy and NE (dependent on circumstances)... however, we will likely be underdogs At Miami. That being said, I love our matchup versus Miami because they have a suspect secondary, lack a great pass rush, and are a run-dominate team. And, we can't be run on anymore!!!
 
dalemurphy said:
The biggest corner in franchise history was turned when Fred Bennett was shown the bench! Now that is the kind of move that can change the fortunes of a franchise...

and, I'm only slightly exaggerating.
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Yes, I most definitely agree with that move.
 
A corner gets turned with a franchise or a team when they are in the late season and the playoffs isn't just a hope or pipe dream if 30 scenarios work out but something you can lose or win. If you are in the mix and every week counts in you losing a spot, then you turned a corner. If you are making late season runs that look good on paper and there is a 5% chance, then no. Depends on where you are coming from too. Look at those 90s Dallas teams. After 1-15 they went 7-9. They actually had an outside shot at the playoffs that year if they just had won 2 more games. While that was in a way turning the corner coming off 1-15, they really turned it when they went 11-5 in the next year and made the playoffs and won a playoff game. Then the stage was set and expectations in order.
 
HoustonFrog said:
A corner gets turned with a franchise or a team when they are in the late season and the playoffs isn't just a hope or pipe dream if 30 scenarios work out but something you can lose or win. If you are in the mix and every week counts in you losing a spot, then you turned a corner. If you are making late season runs that look good on paper and there is a 5% chance, then no. Depends on where you are coming from too. Look at those 90s Dallas teams. After 1-15 they went 7-9. They actually had an outside shot at the playoffs that year if they just had won 2 more games. While that was in a way turning the corner coming off 1-15, they really turned it when they went 11-5 in the next year and made the playoffs and won a playoff game. Then the stage was set and expectations in order.
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Frog, we are in the midst of our 11-5 season. That's why we are excited. You just aren't seeing the future as clearly as I am.
 
dalemurphy said:
Frog, we are in the midst of our 11-5 season. That's why we are excited. You just aren't seeing the future as clearly as I am.
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Could be...but that is my point. When the nerves set in and they get to say an 8-4 and the last 4 games mean making it or losing it...then the corner is turned. Sitting right now at .500 when you lose a game, win a game, lose a game.............isn't turning .
 
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