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Happy Trails, Kris Brown.

I am overreacting. I just need to take the blame on somebody different besides the classic coach or referrees. But did anybody else notice how Schaub got punched in the face on that last INT?

Surely if the QB got hit in the head the refs would have threw a flag.
 
There you go! Someone else who actually understand the game! Well done!

There are a lot of people on this board who understand despite all those penalties, despite the offenses ineptitude...... with 1 second left, Kris Brown could have erased what you "actually understand" about the game.
 
I will forget this game forever if we beat the Colts at home.

We would continue to control our own destiny with a win here, and continue to compete for the division.

This loss puts us in a position where we need more help, especially from the Titans & the Jags.

Not likely to happen I know. But sweeping the Colts was our best chance at winning the division.
 
I wonder why. Is he hurt? Before anyone says anything he is not good at all but for him not to get at least one carry is odd.

they never really needed him today. He isn't much of an asset in the receiving game, and Slaton and Moats did well enough on short yardage when required.

how do put this game on him? if the colts won the toss and scored who do you blame?

Well at least we get a second shot at the game. I don't like when games are decided by missed FG's. This team deserved a second chance, and KB couldn't give it to them.
 
This guy blew it today no matter if he made a 56 yard kick he missed a shorter kick and he was within his range.
 
how do put this game on him? if the colts won the toss and scored who do you blame?

Doesn't matter. Since he missed the field goal..... it doesn't matter.

Had he made the field goal, we could explore those possibilities...

he missed..... game over.
 
they never really needed him today. He isn't much of an asset in the receiving game, and Slaton and Moats did well enough on short yardage when required.



Well at least we get a second shot at the game. I don't like when games are decided by missed FG's. This team deserved a second chance, and KB couldn't give it to them.

why aren't you killing moats? he got the starting spot over salton due to fumbles just to fumble at the one?
 
We would continue to control our own destiny with a win here, and continue to compete for the division.

This loss puts us in a position where we need more help, especially from the Titans & the Jags.

Not likely to happen I know. But sweeping the Colts was our best chance at winning the division.

Winning the division even before today's game seemed like a stretch. It was definitely possible before today, but WC is still a legitimate possibility. Not if we're 6-5 after the Colts game again. Crazier things have happeend in the NFL though, and it seems 10-6 is a sure ride to the playoffs this year.
 
why aren't you killing moats? he got the starting spot over salton due to fumbles just to fumble at the one?

I blame it on Kubiak and Co. for not getting a play off and in fact giving the Colts a few minutes to decide if they should throw the challenge flag. Yes, Moats screwed up, but i don't think it decided the game in the long run. Even if he didn't fumble, and they scored, the 2nd half could have been completely different, maybe not in the Texans favor. Momentum shifts effect the game.
 
I blame it on Kubiak and Co. for not getting a play off and in fact giving the Colts a few minutes to decide if they should throw the challenge flag. Yes, Moats screwed up, but i don't think it decided the game in the long run. Even if he didn't fumble, and they scored, the 2nd half could have been completely different, maybe not in the Texans favor. Momentum shifts effect the game.

you don't think it decided the game in the long run??????
 
you don't think it decided the game in the long run??????

No i think the two biggest things were for the lack of personal foul call on the Colts during their last INT when they decked Schaub and the KB miss.

Momentum shifts can happen over some weird things, and maybe if the Texans had gotten that TD before the half, they might of had a much less sense of urgency.
 
No i think the two biggest things were for the lack of personal foul call on the Colts during their last INT when they decked Schaub and the KB miss.

Momentum shifts can happen over some weird things, and maybe if the Texans had gotten that TD before the half, they might of had a much less sense of urgency.

didn't you say the moats fumble had nothing to do with the end result? this game falls on the O for falling behind 13-0. like the zona game
 
Yes i did say that, because it didn't. Unfortunately i don't have psychic abilities and don't really know what would have happened had they scored the TD and Moats not fumbled.
 
I cant believe Mr. Automatic missed that FG. With the game on the line Brown is usually ice in those situations but **** happens I guess.

I actually thought Schaub should've taken a shot at the endzone and went for the win in the play before where we threw it to JJ over the middle and barely got the ball spiked because I thought we were already in Kris' range and we might as well try to win the game. Plus I didn't think we could've spiked the ball going over the middle...LUCKY

Who knows? Maybe Kris would make the harder FG lol.
 
Yes i did say that, because it didn't. Unfortunately i don't have psychic abilities and don't really know what would have happened had they scored the TD and Moats not fumbled.

the offense cost us this game, can't give peyton a 13-0 lead and expect to win. don't know why everyone see's something different.
 
didn't you say the moats fumble had nothing to do with the end result? this game falls on the O for falling behind 13-0. like the zona game
Give up guys...Ryan wants to put this all on Kris Brown's shoulders. Did he miss? Yep, he sure did. Was the game result his fault...not by a long shot. Will Ryan ever be convinced otherwise? - not likely.
 
Kris Brown also nailed a freaking 56-yarder on the road when our offense had done jack until that point in time.

He pushed it left, and not by much.

It's not as if he shanked it so bad that we get to draft #1 next year. (Dang it)
 
We would've had a better chance at 6-3 had Brown made the FG. I've already said this earlier, if all of you are happy with 5-4, more power to you. All of the things that had happened earlier in the game were past history, and we couldn't do anything about it. Kris Brown had a chance to give us another shot and he failed, and now we're 5-4, and not 6-3. We might not have won in overtime, but i would have liked to have another chance, and probably wouldn't feel as devasted with this loss.
 
Hey, don't look at me I'm just trying to make certain they get rid of the right Chris Brown if they are going to get rid of one. You dig?
 
There's plenty of blame to go around and Brown is included. Why did our offense go 3 and out after our defense intercepted it with 7 minutes left and a 4 point lead? Why did Schaub not just take the sack and instead threw the INT on the previous drive where a td was an option? Why did we get 13 penalties? Why did our offense do jack in the 1st quarter? Why did our defense allow Peyton to have a career high passing yards in the 1st half? Why did Moats fumble at the 1 yard line? Why cant we play inconsistent football? Why cant we play solid football at all levels for the whole game?

Why did our kicker miss a 42 yard FG to tie the game is one of many reasons we lost today but he's also been our most consistent player in franchise history. If this becomes a trend where he misses high pressure FGs then he should be gone but as it stands he made a mistake today just like a whole lot of other players on the team.
 
There's plenty of blame to go around and Brown is included. Why did our offense go 3 and out after our defense intercepted it with 7 minutes left and a 4 point lead? Why did Schaub not just take the sack and instead threw the INT on the previous drive where a td was an option? Why did we get 13 penalties? Why did our offense do jack in the 1st quarter? Why did our defense allow Peyton to have a career high passing yards in the 1st half? Why did Moats fumble at the 1 yard line? Why cant we play inconsistent football? Why cant we play solid football at all levels for the whole game?

Why did our kicker miss a 42 yard FG to tie the game is one of many reasons we lost today but he's also been our most consistent player in franchise history. If this becomes a trend where he misses high pressure FGs then he should be gone but as it stands he made a mistake today just like a whole lot of other players on the team.

if someone wants to blame brown they're idiots. just saying
 
We would've had a better chance at 6-3 had Brown made the FG. I've already said this earlier, if all of you are happy with 5-4, more power to you. All of the things that had happened earlier in the game were past history, and we couldn't do anything about it. Kris Brown had a chance to give us another shot and he failed, and now we're 5-4, and not 6-3. We might not have won in overtime, but i would have liked to have another chance, and probably wouldn't feel as devasted with this loss.

Ryan, at some point...we have to look past WHO didn't make THE big play at the end of the game to save everyone's ass.

To me, I try to think "Who, or what could we have done, in order to NOT be put into that pressure-cooker situation like that?"

Kris Brown is the least of my worries about how this team somehow beats very good teams; the teams we lose to like this. Kris Brown makes other FGs in his sleep. He makes them even when those snaps are atrocious, which they had been up until today. Today was the first time I saw quality deep snaps to the holder that weren't fluttering and twisting and bouncing before reaching the holder.

I think if there's any "Big Moment" we need to look at, it's the play calls after the Pollard interception on the Reggie Wayne WR pass. That was as dubious of a three-down series of play calling that I have seen so far. It boggled my mind.

It also boggled my mind how many times we were in the neutral zone and gave Manning extra chances. Or how many times we let Dallas Clark come off the snap without even being covered until he was already well into his routes. Or why Moats didn't have the ball in his left arm when he fumbled it, meaning the ball carries out of bounds easily instead of staying in bounds. Or why Schaub throws into triple coverage for his first pick of the game. Or why a whole lot of other "why's" that we can think of.

But Kris Brown? Come on, man. I think you know that you can't hang a loss on the guy who has to come in and save the day with :01 on the clock. And even then, if we lose in OT...then his made FG means jack squat.
 
Since the blame game is being played let's blame everyone from the cop standing outside to the water boy all the way down to folks who prepare the lockerooms before the game and last but not least the homeless man walking outside the stadium before and after the game.
 
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You had a great run here in Houston, and i will appreciate you forever, but you choked today and now we're still snake bitten against the Colts because of it. You weren't the only reason we lost, but that fg was nothing for you 2 years ago. That can cost us a playoff berth, or even for that matter, a winning record.

Worst. Take. Ever.
 
I don't see how a game in the past is relevant to the now. Has-beens live in the past. What has he done for us lately? The biggest game of his career was the loss today. I think you just want to disagree for the sake of disagreeing. I'm not saying his best game, which is what I think you are reading into my post.

Then why keep records?
if the past means nothing, then why bother keeping any records??
 
There's plenty of blame to go around and Brown is included. Why did our offense go 3 and out after our defense intercepted it with 7 minutes left and a 4 point lead? Why did Schaub not just take the sack and instead threw the INT on the previous drive where a td was an option? Why did we get 13 penalties? Why did our offense do jack in the 1st quarter? Why did our defense allow Peyton to have a career high passing yards in the 1st half? Why did Moats fumble at the 1 yard line? Why cant we play inconsistent football? Why cant we play solid football at all levels for the whole game?

Why did our kicker miss a 42 yard FG to tie the game is one of many reasons we lost today but he's also been our most consistent player in franchise history. If this becomes a trend where he misses high pressure FGs then he should be gone but as it stands he made a mistake today just like a whole lot of other players on the team.

yet, with all those Eff-ups - and that's what they were - we still had a shot at the end.
I remember days when this game would have been over by halftime.

wait until they come here.
I predict a home & home split. Just as I did during the preseason.
I'm not happy about this, but it's not all gloom & doom. No one's head should roll for this loss.

Moats will go back to being #2 and Slaton will go back to #1.

Kubiak will climb Schaub's a$$ about the picks - I warned y'all about that in one of those Slaton vs. Moats threads. That's two picks last week and another two this week. Four picks vs. 1 TD pass in the last two weeks. I don't like this trend.

oh and our defense is forcing turnovers for a change.

I'm not happy about the loss but it's not all gloom & doom.
 
yet, with all those Eff-ups - and that's what they were - we still had a shot at the end.
I remember days when this game would have been over by halftime.

wait until they come here.
I predict a home & home split. Just as I did during the preseason.
I'm not happy about this, but it's not all gloom & doom. No one's head should roll for this loss.

Moats will go back to being #2 and Slaton will go back to #1.

Kubiak will climb Schaub's a$$ about the picks - I warned y'all about that in one of those Slaton vs. Moats threads. That's two picks last week and another two this week. Four picks vs. 1 TD pass in the last two weeks. I don't like this trend.

oh and our defense is forcing turnovers for a change.

I'm not happy about the loss but it's not all gloom & doom.

Just curious but why? Granted the running game didn't exactly stand out today as a beacon of success but there were times when we moved the ball consistently on the ground and when that was happening it was Ryan Moats who was doing it. Yes, he fumbled the ball on the 2 yard line. He's just got to get what? 7 more of those and lose 4 of them to catch Steve?

I don't really care at this point as I don't think our running attack is eventually going to be hitched to either one of them but I'm just curious why you think Slaton reclaimed anything today.
 
I don't really care at this point as I don't think our running attack is eventually going to be hitched to either one of them but I'm just curious why you think Slaton reclaimed anything today.

I thought Moats did just fine. Its nice to see us getting 4 to 5 yards on a carry.
 
Did I say how sorry I am...I'm reeeeeeally sorry...LOL

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Somebody wanna ban negative nancy here? He hasnt said anything good in any post that ive ever seen.

I'm not sure why we would want to ban someone for expressing his views on a public forum....unless we are just banning people for not being beaming members of the sunshine club...
 
I can't think of many kickers in the league that are better than Kris Brown.

The bashing is misguided.
 
You had a great run here in Houston, and i will appreciate you forever, but you choked today and now we're still snake bitten against the Colts because of it. You weren't the only reason we lost, but that fg was nothing for you 2 years ago. That can cost us a playoff berth, or even for that matter, a winning record.

you're pathetic
 
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I don't really care at this point as I don't think our running attack is eventually going to be hitched to either one of them but I'm just curious why you think Slaton reclaimed anything today.

I thought Moats did just fine. Its nice to see us getting 4 to 5 yards on a carry.


Moats: 16 carries, 38 yards. 2.4 yards/carry.
 
You had a great run here in Houston, and i will appreciate you forever, but you choked today and now we're still snake bitten against the Colts because of it. You weren't the only reason we lost, but that fg was nothing for you 2 years ago. That can cost us a playoff berth, or even for that matter, a winning record.

I'm kind of glad my mistakes at my job aren't on TV and people scream for me to be fired.

I make them all the time, as we all do, I'm sure. I do the same thing pretty much everyday and STILL slip up every now and then. And trust me, there are a LOT of people who could do my job better than me.

I'm just glad my boss doesn't read message boards to get any crazy ideas ...
 
I'm kind of glad my mistakes at my job aren't on TV and people scream for me to be fired.

I make them all the time, as we all do, I'm sure. I do the same thing pretty much everyday and STILL slip up every now and then. And trust me, there are a LOT of people who could do my job better than me.

I'm just glad my boss doesn't read message boards to get any crazy ideas ...

Alex Gibbs had to chew Slaton's ass on his last run. The kid doesn't
get North/South fast enough. It's trying to bust EVERYTHING to the
outside. Steve needs to get back with the program.
 
All of you who point fingers at Kris Brown for missing a kick. All of you who say the Texans are a bunch of losers. All of you who say here we go again. All of you who are jumping off the band wagon even quicker than you jumped on.

The Colts were and still are undefeated. Peyton Manning is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. And we barely lost. Say whatever the hell you want about this loss, about how bad you think this team is. The Texans pushed one of the best teams in the NFL to the brink and it didn't go there way this time. This is a damn good team and I'm proud that they're representing Houston.

Here's to beating the BESF's on Monday night, and getting even with the Colts when they come to our house. The Texans will bounce back and they will finish this year strong. If you doubt that, or if you're sick of supporting a bunch of "losers" then go root for the cowboys - Have fun with that.
 
I'm with you man. Why does everyone have to be so down after a loss? Yes we can talk about what we did wrong but bashing isn't going to change the outcome. Now look, we have a bye week and we have easy games in front of us. Let's drop this game and go get us a play off berth! :texflag::d::marionaner::fans:
 
I'm with you man. Why does everyone have to be so down after a loss? Yes we can talk about what we did wrong but bashing isn't going to change the outcome. Now look, we have a bye week and we have easy games in front of us. Let's drop this game and go get us a play off berth! :texflag::d::marionaner::fans:

I have no problem with "bashing" as long as the "basher" is actually making a point and types up why he's so upset and actually has a point....it's part of the venting/healing process after a tough loss. However I do have a problem with a certain someone who just flies around every single thread and drops the "they're just losers" in every single thread without typing any kind of argument. It's just redundant bullcrap. I mean it would be one thing is we weren't trying or we got our asses handed to us on the road, but that didn't happen.....these "losers" are playing their ass off and are trying to compete week in and week out. If you can't at the very least try to respect just a little bit of that, go hop on the Colts' bandwagon....I hear everything is smooth over there.

This isn't a "homer" response either....anybody who has read my posts know that I'm not a "homer", it's more of a "stop kicking a dead horse when every player feels as sick as you post". Honestly how the hell do you think Owen feels right now.....how about Andre, but I guess they're just a "bunch of losers" also.

P.S.

Chris Myers is a loser though :) yeah, I want that guy gone.
 
Thoughts on Kris Brown:

He's been in a season long slump.

His kicks are line drives and don't have the initial lift that NFL kicks need.

There's no excuse for the blocked kicks, he didn't have a problem with this last year or the year before when he arguably had Pro Bowl seasons.

The missed FG to lose the game was hooked inside, he scooped the kick soccer-style and has lost sight of his kicking motion which is more pendulum-like than wedge-like.

He needs to get his head right during the bye week because he's a big-time kicker and has been before. He can kick the 55+ yarders and I have faith in the guy. But he does need some serious fixing.
 
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