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Greg Cossell Talks NFL Draft

Playoffs said:
Greg Cosell's Top 3 QBs

1. David Carr
2. Zach Mettenberger
3. Blake Bortles
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The GREAT IRONY: The Texans get burned in 2002 for taking a Carr #1 in the draft. And get get burned in 2014 for NOT taking a Carr #1 in the draft.

On Carr, BUYER BEWARE of any QB with over 600 passing attempts in 1 season. Completion % and accuracy is often enhanced by the number of dinks and dunks.

I like Mett but he really only had 1 good year with experienced knowledgeable OC. I think he may be 3-4 years away from being a quality NFL QB.
 
Texian said:
The GREAT IRONY: The Texans get burned in 2002 for taking a Carr #1 in the draft. And get get burned in 2014 for NOT taking a Carr #1 in the draft.

On Carr, BUYER BEWARE of any QB with over 600 passing attempts in 1 season. Completion % and accuracy is often enhanced by the number of dinks and dunks.

I like Mett but he really only had 1 good year with experienced knowledgeable OC. I think he may be 3-4 years away from being a quality NFL QB.
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If I were a coach, I would be looking for someone with the physical tools to do the job, the mental capacity to learn our system & process information quickly. The ability to solve problems in real time.

Gruden said Carr called 90% of his plays. I was impressed with the conversation he & Gruden had. I think he displayed a deep understanding of pass protections, routes, & defenses.

If I were an OC, I would think he could pick up what we're trying to do & execute it on the field as well as anyone.

Definitely not my first pick, but I can understand now (where I didn't before) why he's thought of as a 1st round prospect.
 
Texian said:
The GREAT IRONY: The Texans get burned in 2002 for taking a Carr #1 in the draft. And get get burned in 2014 for NOT taking a Carr #1 in the draft.

On Carr, BUYER BEWARE of any QB with over 600 passing attempts in 1 season. Completion % and accuracy is often enhanced by the number of dinks and dunks.

I like Mett but he really only had 1 good year with experienced knowledgeable OC. I think he may be 3-4 years away from being a quality NFL QB.
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I agree with this. I'll also add to it. I really worry about guys who get scared when pressured. I don't think that's something you can change. I see that a lot in Carr and I see it some in the little I've seen of Garoppolo too.

There's a lot to like about Mettenberger. I'd like to get him with a really good QB coach and let him sit for at least a year, maybe more. I love the jump he made this year but he is still very mentally raw.
 
Texian said:
If this was McShay, Jeremiah or Miller making these comments I wouldn't give them much weight. However since it is Greg Cosell, this story has my attention. Before the Teddybots start, yes I read what he said about Bortles. Bortles is a coaching issue that can easily be changed or fixed. Teddy's problems not so much.
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This is why nobody takes your pppost serious. One player can't do anything about his shortcomings,but the other guy just needs coaching. Brees and rodgers had to get stronger to throw the way they throw now. That's called maturation.
 
thunderkyss said:
If I were a coach, I would be looking for someone with the physical tools to do the job, the mental capacity to learn our system & process information quickly. The ability to solve problems in real time.

Gruden said Carr called 90% of his plays. I was impressed with the conversation he & Gruden had. I think he displayed a deep understanding of pass protections, routes, & defenses.

If I were an OC, I would think he could pick up what we're trying to do & execute it on the field as well as anyone.

Definitely not my first pick, but I can understand now (where I didn't before) why he's thought of as a 1st round prospect.
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He can`t handle pressure. That is one of the reason many great QB prospects fail. In the NFL pressure comes faster, from more directions and hits hurt more. And in the NFL, if other teams know you can`t handle pressure, you will be blitzed on almost every play.

Plus, most of his passes were in the 0-5 yards range. That inflates his completion percentage.

If you`d ask me, I´d take Carr off of my draft board. Perhaps take a look at him in the 3d round. In the first I´d only take the big 3, in the second Garrapolo and later in the 2nd McCarron and Mettenberger.
 
thunderkyss said:
If I were a coach, I would be looking for someone with the physical tools to do the job, the mental capacity to learn our system & process information quickly. The ability to solve problems in real time.

Gruden said Carr called 90% of his plays. I was impressed with the conversation he & Gruden had. I think he displayed a deep understanding of pass protections, routes, & defenses.

If I were an OC, I would think he could pick up what we're trying to do & execute it on the field as well as anyone.

Definitely not my first pick, but I can understand now (where I didn't before) why he's thought of as a 1st round prospect.
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If these things are most important to you then Savage/Mettenberger/Murray in addition to McCarron must be high on your list of prospects.
 
Playoffs said:
Greg Cosell's Top 3 QBs

1. David Carr
2. Zach Mettenberger
3. Blake Bortle
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Texian said:
The GREAT IRONY: The Texans get burned in 2002 for taking a Carr #1 in the draft. And get get burned in 2014 for NOT taking a Carr #1 in the draft.

On Carr, BUYER BEWARE of any QB with over 600 passing attempts in 1 season. Completion % and accuracy is often enhanced by the number of dinks and dunks.

I like Mett but he really only had 1 good year with experienced knowledgeable OC. I think he may be 3-4 years away from being a quality NFL QB.
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IDEXAN said:
I like that threesome better than the one we are use to seeing.
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You guys really want David Carr again? Wtf?
 
Mike Evans, Kelvin Benjamin fit NFL's trend of bigger is better at WR
It's the year of the wide receiver. It would be no surprise if seven were drafted in the first round on Thursday night. That would not be an aberration. Since the turn of the century, six wide receivers have been selected in the opening round four times (2001, 2005, 2007 and 2009), and seven came off the board in 2004.

Unfortunately for some of those prospects, receiver is consistently the biggest first-round "bust" position in the draft after quarterback. There are certainly many reasons for that, and they must be analyzed on a case-by-case basis, but two factors really stand out: the wide gap between what receivers are asked to do in college versus the NFL regarding route concepts and adjustments, and the dramatically higher quality of cornerbacks they play against on Sundays...
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Lucky said:
He's likely very lonely in that opinion.
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I like Benjamin better than Evans as well. I will note that my opinion is based on more than just current skills. To me Benjamin projects to be better with more experience, and I like his attitude and demeanor more than Evans.
 
Blake said:
I like Benjamin better than Evans as well. I will note that my opinion is based on more than just current skills. To me Benjamin projects to be better with more experience, and I like his attitude and demeanor more than Evans.
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I definitely agree with you on demeanor, but Evans hands' are just so much better. Evans also seems to understand the position better (body positioning, coming back to QB, routes) and he's also 3 years younger.

I like Benjamin's potential, but Evans is a lot better right now and has potential himself.
 
Playoffs said:
Watkins/Benjamin/Evans vs. "the field"(all other drafted WRs)...

in 3 years, who ya got?
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Wow that's tough because the field includes guys like Cooks, Beckham, Lee, Moncrief, Matthews, Robinson, etc.

I think I'll take the field just because of the odds although I wouldn't be shocked if Watkins ended up being a superior version of Torrey Smith while Evans is a Vincent Jackson lite.
 
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