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Grade Our Draft

I give our draft a big B!! I wasn't sure about the QB in the 7th.:thinking: I like ALL the picks from rds 1-6. The team seems to be much faster now! I still can't believe we got Okam, a great gamble here in the 5th! I really like his spin move, not bad for a big guy. I'm very happy about this draft plus Smith/Kubes is running the show! :texflag:
 
dalemurphy said:
My point was, what was your grade of those drafts the next day. Then, compare them to what they are now... For instance, all the gnashing of teeth over the '06 draft by many on this board. I'd say a lot of low grades were given out on Sunday night two years ago. Now, two years later, only the obnoxious fools would give that draft anything less than an 'A'.

I understand wanting to talk about the draft when it happens. I understand expressing confusion, concern, and/or excitement about picks. I just think the grading of the players and the draft before they've even had one practice in the NFL is silly and way premature.

Of course, if I was a Raider fan, I'd have a lot to complain about- drafting a RB when we just drafted Bush the year before for this upcoming season- having Fargas and Jordan on the roster and needing everything but CB. The fact that my senile owner runs the draft and refuses to entertain the prospect of a trade down even though we're missing a 2nd, 3rd, and 5th round pick- yeah, I get complaining about that. However, I still can't grade that draft. If McFadden turns into Tomlinson and the other picks hit, then it was still a good draft.

As a Texan fan, I can see being confused as to why Brown was drafted that early. However, the coach and GM explained that. Still, was it a reach or a good pick? Nobody will know for a while. So, I can say that I wish they would've traded down again or taken someone else, but I can't give them a letter grade for a guy that hasn't played a down yet.
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I understand your point. even agree with your point which is why I tried in my pathetic own way to answear your draft grade question from 02-06.

then the other part of me just wants to be another dumb fan who wants his opinion heard.

interesting trend though don't you think? with Kubaik @ the helm the grades suddenly skyrocked :cool:
 
I'm giving our draft an A.

I loved every pick and I especially appreciated the trade down.
 
I don't care for draft grades.

I think you are not allowed to grade a draft if you don't spell the guys' names right.

That being said, I think the best thing to look for is how guys fit on your team.

If you have some casual fan friends, I suggest emailing them this link:

NFL Draft Grades: Houston Texans

There is an email this button on the bottom. The link is just a summary of the draft with a lot of link goodness.

I get a lot of calls from friends asking me what I think, so it is nice just to email this to a bunch of folks I know who will ask.
 
2006 -
1 Mario Williams DE North Carolina State
2 DeMeco Ryans LB Alabama
3 Charles Spencer T Pittsburgh
3 Eric Winston T Miami (FL)
4 Owen Daniels TE Wisconsin
6 Wali Lundy RB Virginia
7 David Anderson WR Colorado State

The 06 draft deserves an A++ We got 5 starters out of it. If you count Charles Spencer.

and I think you could argue 4 of our 6 best players.
Mario Williams
Demeco Ryans
AJ
Drob
Eric Winston
Owen Daniels
 
Giant Tiger said:
:goodpost: Question: If Spencer comes back, do you sit Brown for part of the season? Brown is the LT of the future, but no sense having 2 "rookies" start the year. Doesn't diminish Brown's value. I guess that's why Winston sat for a while. But when he played against the Colts late in the year, he just belonged there. I'm excited about this OL.
Also really intrigued about Moulden & Slaton. I was surprised Moulden was still there. Thought he would go late 2nd-early 3rd. I really like Adibi, too.
If I'm allowed to add Chris Myers to this draft grade-I give it an A.
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I'm estimating again so I'm probably dead wrong.... If Brown comes along the next five months, it makes sense to move him out there and let him bang for awhile. He needs reps. Save Salaam's legs for as long as possible.

What kubiak has done previously is ease the rookies into the line up., I think but do not know, his experence is to put the young guys into the best position possible to suceed. Point being Jacoby Jones....he got hurt not listening to the coaches and when they truly needed him he wasn't availble @ 100 %. Adibi needs the wieght room for a year and a lot of crawl fish and beer. We needed to replace the specail teams production with the loss of Hutchins and Mike Anderson and they did. Adibi and Barber.

Going to be a war this summer for the safty/special teams slots.
 
threetoedpete said:
Point being Jacoby Jones....he got hurt not listening to the coaches and when they truly needed him he wasn't availble @ 100 %.
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What did the coaches tell Jacoby? Don't get tackled by the punter? Of course, he was the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered punter you'll ever set eyes on.
 
Porky said:
You loved Brink in the 7th, a 5th QB with zero chance to make the roster? :thinking:
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have to trust Kubiack on this one, sounds like they wanted him all along for some reason which leads one to ask the question what really is the QB situation? do the Texans bury him somewhere on the practice squad to develop or just in case disaster strikes again? or is there something else brewing :stirpot: that to me is worth a 5th, 4th or even 3rd rd. pick for the future, heck I projected the Texans might use a late round pick on a QB for the very same reasons, 7th rd. makes excellent sense:cool:
 
beerlover said:
have to trust Kubiack on this one, sounds like they wanted him all along for some reason which leads one to ask the question what really is the QB situation? do the Texans bury him somewhere on the practice squad to develop or just in case disaster strikes again? or is there something else brewing :stirpot: that to me is worth a 5th, 4th or even 3rd rd. pick for the future, heck I projected the Texans might use a late round pick on a QB for the very same reasons, 7th rd. makes excellent sense:cool:
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They needed another camp arm...and they did get an offer for Sage this year. Stick the guy on the PS and see what happens. Gives them a base to deal Rosenfelds in '09. Like all back ups, Sage wants to start some where. He has put in his time.... Sage would be the first veteran they would have screwed. They havn't done it yet. Odds are, Sage wll be gone in the '09 season.
 
Draft Grades don't bother me. It's just a way for someone to give their opinion on how well a team did in improving themselves and setting themselves up for the future. Each of us giving out a grade is just a way for us to express how we feel about the guys we got.

But ultimately, it's just someone's opinion and no one really knows the needs of this team like the coaches and front office... and to some degree, the fans. Most sports writers really don't know as much about what our team needs as we do. So it doesn't bother me if someone gives us an F (which I saw yesterday).

I think this was a really strong draft for us. I think we got a lot of players that can make a serious difference in the performance of this team. I think we got several guys (Brown, Slaton, Adibi, Okam, and possibly Molden) who are going to get serious minutes this year.
 
eriadoc said:
I'm giving it an A+ grade now, so I'm right a few years from now when we're in the Super Bowl :)

:fans:
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http://www.walterfootball.com/offseason2008hou.php

Good Moves: Why is everyone bashing the Duane Brown pick? Because no one has ever heard of him? Well, I had the Chargers taking Brown with the 27th pick in my mock draft, so getting him at 26 isn't much of a reach. Brown is perfect for Houston's zone-blocking scheme and should be able to take over as the starter by mid-season at the latest ...
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Porky said:
1. Brown + trade down: A:


3a. Molden: B:
3b. Slaton: B-: I like this pick, but think it might have been a tad too high. I had him going to us in the 5th rd in my own personal mock. Having said that, I see him as a poor man's Reggie Bush, and I think we use him in a similar fashion. Ideally suited for ZBS, but truthfully, Like Reggie when has he run between the tackles? I see him REALLY helping in the passing game though.

4. Adibi:

5. Okam: B-:

6. Barber: D+:

7. Brink: D-: WTF?? Ok we have four QB's now. If they wanted a camp fodder type, or even a guy to develop as an eventual #3, couldn't they have gone the UDFA route? Why blow a pick on a QB when he has literally ZERO, and I do mean ZERO chance to make the 53 man roster. The guy simply isn't that special, and I don't believe in ever wasting a draft choice on a man that you know won't make the roster. Before people start throwing out, hey it's only a 7th, try looking at the possible Sam LB this year and then commenting again. Totally blown pick imho. :bat: :bat:

Overall grade: B-

Through rd 5 I would say B+, maybe even A-, but they blew the last two big time. Because of that I was torn between B- and C+ but gave them the benefit of the doubt, and am also thinking of the Myers and Schaub picks as well.
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I dunno, and I ain't in the room...

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Topic/inform.htm?subject=Kevin%20Smith

the Patriots are a believer in the Ron Wolf philosophy of drafting a quarterback every year and trying to develop them. San Diego State's Kevin O'Connell has the size, athleticism and leadership traits that the Patriots desire. He's a four-year starter with great upside. Many of his flaws are correctable, and he should get great attention with Matt Cassel likely to draw interest on the open market soon.
 
I don't see what you are complaining about,

Rosenfels hits the market soon and Gray signed a one year contract so, lets guess that after this year one of them gets dragged away, then what happens, the guy we keep will likely stay for a year after and then leave. this gives Kyle Shannahan a guy that he can coach up for 2 years and who will not even have to think about playing in a game.

And personally I like the Barber pick. From what I read (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the guy is good at everything but doesn't stand out at anything which sounds a lot like the knocks on Hines Ward when that guy came out.

Now I'm not saying that both of these guy will start or even stick on the team but I see what Smithiak was thinking with these picks.
 
I don't understand what the complaining is about concerning the 7th Round pick of a QB. I sincerely doubt that the Texans will cut the guy outright. They probably planned to put him on the Practice Squad, unless he totally blows away Gray during Training Camp.

My only complaint with the Texans is: why don't they bring in DE Tommy Blake to OTA's or Training Camp? I know he has Depression and Social Anxiety Disorder, but the way the NFL teams seem to be reacting you would think that he has the Black Plague. What is the risk to signing him to a minimum contract? Do they honestly believe he is somehow going to infect others with his mental illness? Worst case scenario is he can't make the team. Best case scenario is he gets control over his mental health problems with the help of a physician, he makes the team, and returns to his previous high performance at a minimum cost.
 
BattleRedToro said:
why don't they bring in DE Tommy Blake to OTA's or Training Camp? I know he has Depression and Social Anxiety Disorder, but the way the NFL teams seem to be reacting you would think that he has the Black Plague.
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A couple of things spring to mind regarding that. It could be they have learned he isn't very good/reliable about his medications, or maybe the meds aren't really getting the job done. However, I suspect that when that center for the Raiders blewup just before the Superbowl for the same thing, NFL teams have just written off players with the disorder as being unreliable and so therefore they don't bother. NFL teams really value guys that show up and can be counted on day in and day out and generally don't get to involved in trying to solve social issues, particularly with rookies.
 
BattleRedToro said:
My only complaint with the Texans is: why don't they bring in DE Tommy Blake to OTA's or Training Camp? I know he has Depression and Social Anxiety Disorder, but the way the NFL teams seem to be reacting you would think that he has the Black Plague.
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I understand what you're saying. Still, Blake hasn't signed with anyone. This is a case where the NFL may know more than the general public. Blake may yet get a shot somewhere down the line. But, not everyone is cutout to play pro football. Tommy Blake may be one of those people.
 
in Real Estate they always say, location, location, location.

for the Texans its all about, character, character, character.
 
beerlover said:
in Real Estate they always say, location, location, location.

for the Texans its all about, character, character, character.
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I understand that but having an illness, albeit a mental one, is not a character flaw, especially if that illness is properly treated.
 
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