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Glenn Given Permission To Seek Trade

Texans | Glenn Granted Permission to Seek Trade - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:44:24 -0700

Carlton Thompson, of the Houston Chronicle, reports a source said the Houston Texans have granted CB Aaron Glenn permission to seek a trade this offseason.

So the granted makes me believe that Aaron wants out.
 
TEXANS84 said:
Texans | Glenn Granted Permission to Seek Trade - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:44:24 -0700

Carlton Thompson, of the Houston Chronicle, reports a source said the Houston Texans have granted CB Aaron Glenn permission to seek a trade this offseason.

So the granted makes me believe that Aaron wants out.
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They also granted Foreman and Sharper permission to seek trades. Don't read too much in how it's worded.
 
I wonder if they asked Arron to become the nickle back and that is what POed him? He has said that he would be willing to be the nickle hen the time as right. Maybe he thinks it's to soon. Sometime hard for guys to see (or admit) that they are getting older. I want Glenn to be here, he is to valulable from a teacher/experience standpoint and I suspect that PB will need ALOT of teaching to get the best out of him. Hopefully this will workout with Glenn staying.
 
Dime said:
What is the deal with you all.. This is getting old really quick.

Giving Glenn premission to seek a trade is a AWESOME decision. I really like Gleen too, but you all including me have noticed how from the first year here, to the second year to last year, Glenn has been coming off his game a bit. He still is VERY GOOD, but he is starting to lose a step... We all have seen it. Why not trade him to another team while he still has value and pick up a pick or two next year. He probably only have a good year or 2 left before he really loses a step, so we can get a good value for him right now. Come on folks... you have seen it.. so have I. and this makes more sense then letting him set on the bench and mentor.
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The only thing I want to say here is that no, we won't be picking up a draft pick or two next year. We're getting nothing for Glenn just like we got nothing for Sharper. The Texans are giving him permission to seek a trade but nobody is going to make an offer for him because they know come June 1st Glenn's going to be a much cheaper signing once we release him.
 
the only thing that bugs me about this is at first we were told that glenn didn't have a problem with this that he was looking forward to the competition and now we're hearing the opposite...i mean do all of our veteran players hate the idea of competeing for their position...i've always believed that competition builds the character of a team...and if our veteran players like aaron glenn, jay foreman, and jamie sharper don't like the idea of having to compete for a starting job then maybe we are better without them...and i hope gary walker and seth payne get the idea...not to mention every body on the starting o-line...i hate to get this feeling that none of our starters feel that they should have to compete...it gives us, the fans, a feeling that maybe our players aren't competing on the field as well
 
haha thats exactly wat i was thinking were siging a bunch of punks IMO but i cant judge until i see them on the feild and in the community but time will tell
 
how many thugs have we brought in? i wouldnt call Buchanon a thug. does he boast a lot, sure. i mean anyone that calls themselves "showtime" must think highly of himself and believes in his abilities. He is close friends with Andre Johnson, and i wouldnt say AJ is a bad guy, would anyone? so obviously AJ knows something about this kid, at least enough to associate with him... the organization has never had a character that said "look at me" kinda attitude, but maybe thats an attitude we need, the Texans need to start having an attitude and making the league taking notice that the texans are not a expansion team anymore... does this mean we have to let glenn go, no... i would rather his contract be renegotiated, and im curious to why we wouldnt have drafted another back if the team was planning on letting Glenn go... but to call PB a thug and make this his fault is harsh, if glenn wasnt about to be let go, everyone would still be high on buchanon
 
THEFUTURE said:
does this mean we have to let glenn go, no... i would rather his contract be renegotiated
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Generally when a team gives a player permission to seek a trade, the team has tried to rework the deal and the player isn't willing to redo the contract.

Thats what happened with Sharper.
 
well wat bout TJ now im not callin him a punk cause his assult charge but he tends have some anger issues and gets frustrated to easily. how will that contribute when hes on the feild and gets mad cause he cant get the job done ah but again i cant criticize till i see em play but i just dont like this i have a bad feeling. buch well he seems really confident and thats a good thing until u become cocky and hes def. headed in that direction. i think glenn coulda taught him alot and helped him become a better leader than an "all that" cause thats wat he thinks he is but i have to wait to see how good he is on the feild.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
Generally when a team gives a player permission to seek a trade, the team has tried to rework the deal and the player isn't willing to redo the contract.

Thats what happened with Sharper.
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like i have said, they will let Glenn test the market, when glenn realizes he cant get much from it, he will rework his contract... and if he does find something that the texans like, then bye bye glenn... but there is still plenty of work that can be done with glenn.

TopTexanFan16 said:
well wat bout TJ now im not callin him a punk cause his assult charge but he tends have some anger issues and gets frustrated to easily. how will that contribute when hes on the feild and gets mad cause he cant get the job done ah but again i cant criticize till i see em play but i just dont like this i have a bad feeling. buch well he seems really confident and thats a good thing until u become cocky and hes def. headed in that direction. i think glenn coulda taught him alot and helped him become a better leader than an "all that" cause thats wat he thinks he is but i have to wait to see how good he is on the feild.
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The assault charges were bull in the first place, the charges were acquitted when it was realized he had previous relations with the woman in the first place... and if he has anger then good, he can use it on the field, he will learn to control it... and buchanon is legit, i watch him almost everygame since i live out in the bay area, the guy can play... and there had never really been any knocks against him until this year when he complained that he didnt feel welcome in Oakland, and the team wasnt headed in a good direction... PB will be fine, he has one of his best friends here in AJ and one of the best CB coaches in Hoke here in houston... he will be good
 
The talk of Aaron Glenn sticking around to be a teacher to Phillip Buchanon or even Travis Johnson .. that's nonsense. I doubt that PB wants to be taught by AG. He no doubt is pretty secure in his own talent and ability, and he is coming here to show AG up! Would you teach your competition how to take your job away? Coaches can do the teaching. That's what they're paid for.
 
SassyTexan said:
The talk of Aaron Glenn sticking around to be a teacher to Phillip Buchanon or even Travis Johnson .. that's nonsense. I doubt that PB wants to be taught by AG. He no doubt is pretty secure in his own talent and ability, and he is coming here to show AG up! Would you teach your competition how to take your job away? Coaches can do the teaching. That's what they're paid for.
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1) Who ever said hes gonna be a mentor to Travis Johnson? He will be a mentor to PB if hes still here and if PB has ANY sense he will listen. If you were a young player in the NFL and "wasnt playing to your potential", wouldnt you want to get taught by one of the best players in the league at your position?

2)AG is a stand up guy. He knows his career is coming to a close, and Im sure he has no problem in teaching the "young bucks" the tricks of the trade. Coaches do get paid to teach, but would you rather listen to a coach, or a person that actually does what he teaches? IMO i would rather learn from an expert at my position than a coach. (I would listen to both of course)
 
Davis37 said:
1) Who ever said hes gonna be a mentor to Travis Johnson? He will be a mentor to PB if hes still here and if PB has ANY sense he will listen. If you were a young player in the NFL and "wasnt playing to your potential", wouldnt you want to get taught by one of the best players in the league at your position?
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playing to potential? its not like PB has come into the league and stunk it up, he had 55 tackles and 3 picks, and is a avg punt returner with a career avg of 11 yards... i wouldnt exactly say he has been playing sub par
 
Aaron Glenn is a stand up guy! No doubt! But have you not noticed that football players (like everyone else) do not know when their time is up? .. It's human nature. Pride takes over, and then you have them embarrassing themselves. Emmitt Smith comes to mind.
 
SassyTexan said:
Aaron Glenn is a stand up guy! No doubt! But have you not noticed that football players (like everyone else) do not know when their time is up? .. It's human nature. Pride takes over, and then you have them embarrassing themselves. Emmitt Smith comes to mind.
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I dont believe that Aaron is quite at the Emmit level though . I think he has some good quality productive years left in him .
 
Negative Jesus said:
I dont believe that Aaron is quite at the Emmit level though . I think he has some good quality productive years left in him .
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While that is likely true, he may have difficulty seeing his career coming to an end and having to step back. Perhaps he was asked to move towrds the nickle DB spot and isn't yet willing to admit it might be time. It's hard for anyone to see the shift to others and it seems it is especially hard for pro athletes.
 
Emmitt never embarrassed himself. I don't get that analogy at all. He had a decent time in Arizona. Nothing special but embarrassing? Nope, not to me anyway.
 
WWJD said:
Emmitt never embarrassed himself. I don't get that analogy at all. He had a decent time in Arizona. Nothing special but embarrassing? Nope, not to me anyway.
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You obviously don't remember the first few games in 2003. It seems like Emmitt had about a 2.0 YPC average and was struggling just to get to the line. Didn't he have like 10 carries for -7 yards against the Cowboys. He did redeem himself in 2004, but the guy I saw in 2003 was an embarrassment.
 
Well we see things differently then. I don't think the guy embarrassed himself in Arizona and you do.
 
LBblitz said:
I dont think glenn will go (fingers crossed). We need leadership and he can still be a dominant CB which we will need to combat Indy...the jags got that matt jones kid...he could be trouble.
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He will go back to Jets
 
This news also makes me mad, yeah he is getting older and losing a step, but he still is not bad, I could just imagine having glenn, buchanon, robinson, coleman, and earl in a 5 man rotation, for atleast a year while glenn teaches buchanon like he taught robinson, I mean robinson was great last year for a rookie and I think a large part of that is because of glenn not the coaches! :wacko:
 
did glenn help dunta yeah, but dunta was a rookie... and had also a great CB coach... Buchanon is a three year player going into year 4, he doesnt need to be taught much, and doesnt need a mentor, someone to keep his attitude in check, sure. but no one to teach him how to play... he knows how to play the game
 
fball said:
This news also makes me mad, yeah he is getting older and losing a step, but he still is not bad, I could just imagine having glenn, buchanon, robinson, coleman, and earl in a 5 man rotation, for atleast a year while glenn teaches buchanon like he taught robinson, I mean robinson was great last year for a rookie and I think a large part of that is because of glenn not the coaches! :wacko:
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1st off you have to be damn good DB to be drafted in the top 10. 2nd teams started to throw to Glenn's side of the ball because they knew he lost a step. I watched from my seats inside Reliant and watched time and time again Glenn getting burned or out of postion.

DRob was going to be a great DB with or with out Glenn here. There is a certain time that teams have to make choices players and I think CC and Capers are deciding now to get ride of Glenn before he really hurts the team.
 
Why is everyone getting on Buchanan's case, he is your typical miami guy exelent athletes and a shameless self promoters, not counting AJ who is in the minority. I mean look at Portis he wore a fake WWF championship belt when he was in Denver and I won't even start on Micheal Irvin. I also think that a lot of people aren't giving Dunta enough credit, he had to have some skill to be the 10th overall pick. I know we need three good CBs, but doesn't Faggins deserve a fair shot at being the nickle back since he has done it for the past couple of years.
 
i think the main reason they are getting rid of the veterans is so they can get some compensation picks for the future. That way you will get a couple of third round players for there loss, they are worth third rounders now, if you wait till next year they will not be worth high compensation picks.
 
I just heard Capers and got the impression we let Glenn do this at his request. He said he would accommodate him if he was uncomfortable.....apparently he is. I think some of us here made a ton of assumptions.
 
I would've thought Glenn would be confident he would beat out Buchanon. I have little doubt in my mind that Glenn and DRob would start, with Buchanon coming in for nickel and dime packages. Maybe this has something to do with us letting Sharper and Foreman go. These vets develop respect for one another, and Glenn may feel like the Texans aren't handling the situation with their vets very well. Hopefully he changes his mind, I'd hate to lose him. I was really looking forward to seeing our three starting caliber CB's face off against the Colts.
 
I knew that Glenn requested a trade, but I don't see him willing to compete for a job. I still think he forces their hand. I hope I am wrong. I would love to have Robinson, Glenn, Buchanon, and Faggins this season.
 
We should have got something for Sharper and we didn't and I have a feeling no one bites on Glenn, especially with all of the CB's that went in the draft, if we get anything for him, it won't be much...No one is gonna give much for a 33 year old CB who carries a huge cap hit, just my :twocents:
 
texansfan4life said:
he get beat alot plus he has lost a step please look at the game more closely
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Really, enlighten us on all these plays he got beat on and that show he lost a step?--thanks for helping those of us who don't watch the games closely. By the way did Bailey lose a step last year? Ya think just maybe the new rule emphasis had something to do with the way CB's performed?
 
We are not currently under any kind of salary cap pressure for the upcoming year. The team is not improved by Aaron leaving, unless he does not want to be here. I hope he chooses to stay.

Despite all the quick presumptions that he is being booted off of the team, it increasingly appears that this is not the case, and that it is Aaron's choice to stay or go. However, if he chooses to stay, he will have to compete for his spot at CB.

I would expect that if he does choose to stay, he and Robinson go into camp as the starting CB's, and Buchanon goes in at second string. However, Buchanon will have a real opportunity to take the starting spot from Aaron, and may even be expected to do that. With the problems that Buchanon had last year, it does not seem like it would be a bad idea for him to begin the year in a backup role, and work himself into a starters position as he establishes himself on the team.
 
A.G is still an awesome corner back, and can really help our young defense this year, i have a weird feeling he'll be back for the 05 season but he might be sharing time with PB and L. Sanders.
 
I guess very few of you caught what happened friday when AG didn't show up to workouts upset that they had Buchannon being a Texan.

AG was mad that he didnt fit the hard worker mentality the texans are, and flat out doesnt want him here.

So in essence, that is your ticket to ride
 
don't know if glenn knew PB prior to them becoming teamates, but if this is his first experience with him, then it doesn't speak to highly of glenn to not give him a chance. maybe he's not the consumate team player he's been perceived as...or just getting old and grumpy :heh: in all fairness i hope something gets worked out so the inferred locker room tension will disolve before the sunday's start getring chalked up in the W/L column...
 
This smells more and more like a locker room implosion. First Sharper, then Glenn, and we draft TJ to compete with Walker. There has to be more to this.
 
I can understand why Glenn would be upset. He's seen some of the guys he's played with for the past few years be let go in favor of younger and faster guys. Then he learns that the Texans picked up a younger and faster CB in PB. Maybe he saw it as a message to him that he was next to go, or maybe he's a little more sensitive after having some of his teamates being let go. Either way I can understand his frustration. His pride has been injured, and man will do drastic things in order to preserve it. I still hope there is a solution to this problem where Glenn can remain a Texan, but it's appearing less likely.
 
I have a feeling Glenn won't be a Texan for much longer, I mean he probably already figured this would be his last season and now they are bringing in these younger faster CB's. He is probably feeling like the FO is trying to push him out. Not only that but if everything we have read is true, I don't want him around if he is going to have an attitude like he has had about everything, he can pack his bags now.
 
This smells more and more like a locker room implosion. First Sharper, then Glenn, and we draft TJ to compete with Walker. There has to be more to this.
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Can we really blame the FO though, I mean 2/3 of our starting D line are players we got from the expansion draft (Walker and Payne), 1/2 of our secondary are guys from the expansion draft (Coleman and Glenn) these guys weren't exactly spring chickens when we got them, and that was three years ago. Sharper was also acquired through the expansion draft. It is time to start building a defense from the draft and free agency by adding speed and youth (DRob, Buchanon, Babin, Earl, Smith, and Greenwood). If Glenn is going to get upset about us trying to improve our TEAM, then that's fine, don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya Aaron, happy trails.
 
Vinny said:
...I think some of us here made a ton of assumptions.
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Whose fault is that? It was the Texans who came out & said that Glenn was OK with the trade & was looking forward to competing. That you need as many cover corners as you can get when matched up with WR corps like the Colts.

It was the Texans who signed Greenwood & summarily gave Sharper & Foreman their walking papers. Is it wrong to draw a parallel here? According to Casserly, the Texans are keeping the Glenn situation "in house". When there's a lack of information, fans will make assumptions.
 
As I recall, Foreman was expected to be cut by many on this board throughout the 2004 season.

Sharper, however, was expected to be retained, and correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the Texans were in the progress of working with Sharper to renegotiate his contract when the melt-down in their relationship occurred. Sharper was encouraged to seek a trade with other teams if he considered the situation to be unsatisfactory and unworkable. He tried, but was not able to do so. At that point, the Texans reached agreement with Sharper to allow for his unconditional release. This was not something the Texans were contractually empowered to do on a unilateral basis. Sharper had to agree to this. He was apparantly so upset, that he thought this was his best option, even though his recent testing of other teams interests had to have provided him and his agent information regarding his worth to other teams in the NFL.

Now, Aaron Glenn has also become upset with his situation. The Texans have permitted him to seek a trade, just as they did with Sharper. The common theme that I see here is that the Texans are not allowing themselves to be moved or manipulated by the emotional swings of their players. They are not trying to punish these guys, only setting some boundaries and expectations that appear quite reasonable, and are entirely within their rights. If this is perceived by these players as an imposition, the team is giving them the opportunity to pursue alternatives that are mutually beneficial. The Texans are not under any requirement to do this. As a matter of fact, I am not familiar with any other instances of players on other teams being invited to pursue trades if they are unhappy. Maybe I just have not been following the sporting news closely enough.

I believe that by these actions, the Texans are currently establishing policies and practices that will reverbrate throughout the league. Players and agents will know what to expect, because the precedents have been established. I wonder, what are other NFL GM's thinking and saying about these types of personnel related policies and practices being implemented by the Texans?
 
Glenn is one of our originals. He has given it his all for three years, and has done a good job. I hope he works through this and stays on for at least another year. We all know its stated that its a Not For Long league. We fans should not turn on players that have done all that is asked of them. If he stays we will all cheer for him and if he decides to leave we should wish him well.......I know I will.

cac: :coffee:
 
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