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Game of Futility - the jaggies

Who wins this game?

  • Jaggies

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • Texans

    Votes: 8 66.7%

  • Total voters
    12

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
This one might actually matter more than all the rest combined as far as the direction the team takes in the future.

Texans lose this one , it has to send a clear message to Cal that this team isn't as full of talent as he thought .... and that the nuclear option is quite necessary.

Only problem .... this game takes place 5 days after the trade deadline.
 

OptimisticTexan

Go Texans 4-3...Post OB!!!!!
Let's see......one team is playing for the RD1-001 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft and the rights to draft Franchise QB, Trevor Lawrence (Generational QB) and the other team is playing to secure the RD3-065 pick in the NFL Draft and a player who has slipped through RD1 and RD2. Something tells me the Jags are playing for a hell-a-va lot more than the Texans so they'll willfully lose this game while putting up just enough fight to make the effort look believable.
 

Double Barrel

Moderator / Admin
Staff member
Contributor's Club
The more the Texans lose, the higher that draft pick gets.

Part of me- that sinister ahole part :evil: - wants that pick to be the top 5 just to embarrass Cal & Co. It's pathetic for a fan base to suffer through another 2 win season and not even have the draft to soften the blow and look forward to.

Like potty training a puppy, Cal needs his nose rubbed in it. BAD CAL, BAD! :redface:

I can't actively root for the Texans to lose. . .but truth be told, I don't really care if they win another game. It's pointless.

Okay, that was mean. Go Texans. :texflag:
 

mussop

Hall of Fame
The more the Texans lose, the higher that draft pick gets.

Part of me- that sinister ahole part :evil: - wants that pick to be the top 5 just to embarrass Cal & Co. It's pathetic for a fan base to suffer through another 2 win season and not even have the draft to soften the blow and look forward to.

Like potty training a puppy, Cal needs his nose rubbed in it. BAD CAL, BAD! :redface:

I can't actively root for the Texans to lose. . .but truth be told, I don't really care if they win another game. It's pointless.

Okay, that was mean. Go Texans. :texflag:
Well you could look at it like, the Lower in the draft we get, our first pick (3rd Round) pick becomes more like a later two!

sorry closest thing I could find to a silver lining.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member

Hervoyel

BUENO!
Haven’t watched a game this year or watched more than a few random minutes in about three years but this looks pretty normal to me. Typical Jags crowd, Texans defense giving up long TD’s on 3rd down... So basically same old same old?
 

powda

Are you not entertained?
Haven’t watched a game this year or watched more than a few random minutes in about three years but this looks pretty normal to me. Typical Jags crowd, Texans defense giving up long TD’s on 3rd down... So basically same old same old?
Yup.
 

DocBar

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
Let's see......one team is playing for the RD1-001 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft and the rights to draft Franchise QB, Trevor Lawrence (Generational QB) and the other team is playing to secure the RD3-065 pick in the NFL Draft and a player who has slipped through RD1 and RD2. Something tells me the Jags are playing for a hell-a-va lot more than the Texans so they'll willfully lose this game while putting up just enough fight to make the effort look believable.
How is it that there are "generational" QBs coming into the league just about every year lately? IMO, that term is getting watered down.
 

DocBar

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
Murray, Goff, Mahommes (my vote for current actual generational QB), Watson, Burrow, Mayfield, Manziel, Rosen, Mariotta, Winston. That's just the last 5-6 years or so and off the top of my head.
My issue isn't whether or not the player(s) can be a true "generational" QB but the hype that gets generated by talking heads.
 

Mollywhopper

Facilitator
Staff member
Murray, Goff, Mahommes (my vote for current actual generational QB), Watson, Burrow, Mayfield, Manziel, Rosen, Mariotta, Winston. That's just the last 5-6 years or so and off the top of my head.
My issue isn't whether or not the player(s) can be a true "generational" QB but the hype that gets generated by talking heads.
Oh, ok.. not sure I've heard anyone there but Pat referred to as generational though..
 

Mollywhopper

Facilitator
Staff member
Everyone I mentioned was mentioned by one person or another (media or coach) as a generational talent. I forgot to add Luck to that list too.
But it doesn't matter who that person is and how much of a consensus it is?

For all we know every first round qb pick in history has had at least one person somewhere utter those words, whether any of us actually got wind of it or not. But the only consensus can't miss generational talents I've seen/heard of in my life are John Elway, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, and Trevor Lawrence.. at least in terms of their status going from the draft to the very beginnings of their careers. Even Mahomes had big time detractors coming out of Tech.

And the truth is, be it generational level or not, qbs entering the league nowadays are light years more prepared to hit the ground running than yesteryear. Even guys like Brady and Wilson had to be brought along slowly with a strong complimentary game aiding their development. But the guys you mentioned, and I would include Herbert, Wentz, Tua and soon to be Lawrence and Fields, have all been thrust almost immediately into franchise qb roles from the get go. I think what's happened at the high school level, with 7-on-7 camps, evolution of college offenses, and NFL coaches being more adaptable to those offenses sooner, QBs today are just by and large generationally more prepared, whether they're actual particular generational talents or not.
 

DocBar

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
But it doesn't matter who that person is and how much of a consensus it is?

For all we know every first round qb pick in history has had at least one person somewhere utter those words, whether any of us actually got wind of it or not. But the only consensus can't miss generational talents I've seen/heard of in my life are John Elway, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, and Trevor Lawrence.. at least in terms of their status going from the draft to the very beginnings of their careers. Even Mahomes had big time detractors coming out of Tech.

And the truth is, be it generational level or not, qbs entering the league nowadays are light years more prepared to hit the ground running than yesteryear. Even guys like Brady and Wilson had to be brought along slowly with a strong complimentary game aiding their development. But the guys you mentioned, and I would include Herbert, Wentz, Tua and soon to be Lawrence and Fields, have all been thrust almost immediately into franchise qb roles from the get go. I think what's happened at the high school level, with 7-on-7 camps, evolution of college offenses, and NFL coaches being more adaptable to those offenses sooner, QBs today are just by and large generationally more prepared, whether they're actual particular generational talents or not.
I would contend that being more prepared as a generation in general does not make an individual a generational QB. Instead, it should significantly raise the bar for what a generational talent should be. A 1,000 yd RB, pre-16 game schedule, is considerably more productive than one in a 16 game season. Remember when 4,000 yds/season was OMG? Now it's the standard.
 

Mollywhopper

Facilitator
Staff member
I would contend that being more prepared as a generation in general does not make an individual a generational QB. Instead, it should significantly raise the bar for what a generational talent should be. A 1,000 yd RB, pre-16 game schedule, is considerably more productive than one in a 16 game season. Remember when 4,000 yds/season was OMG? Now it's the standard.
Not much to contend then, as that first sentence said almost exactly what my last one did..
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
Staff member
Contributor's Club
But it doesn't matter who that person is and how much of a consensus it is?

For all we know every first round qb pick in history has had at least one person somewhere utter those words, whether any of us actually got wind of it or not. But the only consensus can't miss generational talents I've seen/heard of in my life are John Elway, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, and Trevor Lawrence.. at least in terms of their status going from the draft to the very beginnings of their careers. Even Mahomes had big time detractors coming out of Tech.

And the truth is, be it generational level or not, qbs entering the league nowadays are light years more prepared to hit the ground running than yesteryear. Even guys like Brady and Wilson had to be brought along slowly with a strong complimentary game aiding their development. But the guys you mentioned, and I would include Herbert, Wentz, Tua and soon to be Lawrence and Fields, have all been thrust almost immediately into franchise qb roles from the get go. I think what's happened at the high school level, with 7-on-7 camps, evolution of college offenses, and NFL coaches being more adaptable to those offenses sooner, QBs today are just by and large generationally more prepared, whether they're actual particular generational talents or not.
I think all this goes to his point that the term is watered down.
 


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