Vinny
shiny happy fan
Carr had some great passes today....but lets call the great passes great and the bad passes bad at least.
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Game 3 Thread: Redskins @ Texans
- Thread starter Khari
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Carr had some great passes today....but lets call the great passes great and the bad passes bad at least.
Wolf
100% Texan
I agree with you, some of the people posting during the game made me shake my head.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Let's also keep in mind if it weren't for Thomas Johnson and his boneheaded penalty on the fumble return by Orr we wouldn't be talking about Carr's INT. However, since it did happen I can't for the life of me understand why Kubiak would call or Carr would check to a deep pass play like that one with neither AJ or Moulds on the field.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
We still had a shot at a win if Carr doesn't put it up for grabs...but you can't do that and win shootouts in the NFL. A score there and we are only down one score. The game was still in reach...but not after the pick.
BattleRed37
Practice Squad
This team SUCKS! This team really do need Jesus right about now. Offense sucks, and defense just plan dumb. Redskins did the same plays over and over again, and this defense still can't catch on.
This is a cruse team.
This is a cruse team.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Absolutely it was, but again I'm not seeing why they had Walter and Sheppard on the field if you're planning on throwing it deep. It was still a bad choice by Carr to throw into double coverage like that.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
I don't think the choice of pass was as bad as the pass itself. If you are going to do that you can't just toss it up like a punt (he did that twice today - the earlier one dropped by the Wash CB). You have to throw it in the back corner where only your guy has a shot at it.
That was another pitiful performance. Imagine if we had not upgraded by adding Moulds and Flanagan. Wait, I guess you have to go out and find HEART somewhere else. I don't know where the Texans might find some, but it seems that a trip to OZ would not be out of the questions. While there, it would be nice to get some brains as well, for those of us who are season ticket holders and were too stupid that we bought into the "Mario is the best pick" sales pitch. As the guys on the radio said afterward. "It was a stupid pick. Everyone in the NFL knew it was a stupid pick. Well, everyone but the Texans." Jesus-God what a bad team and a waste of time driving over from Beaumont. I seriously don't think that this team is ANY better than last year, and will be lucky to win 2 games this year, if they don't split with the Titans and beat the Raiders.
bigTEXan8
Rookie
carr made some piss-poor throws today, and he had some good ones. and our d made brunell look like peyton frickin' manning.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
You'd have to think that if they've got a safety and a corner on Walter that the dump off pass to the RB or TE would be open underneath. I haven't gotten a chance to look at the play to see if they had a dump off, but it seems to me you'd go with the safe pass in that situation to pick up some yards and maybe a first. No doubt that Carr didn't throw the ball well either. He seemed to underthrow it a bit much like the one he threw to AJ where Rogers had him well covered.
I don't think that any comment could sum it up any better.
actionbull
Practice Squad
These guys just act like they are cashing a check and trying not to get hurt. Ryans is the only one who hits like he means it... Does this defense know what containment means? I have never seen a team get burned on cutbacks all game long and never make any adjustments. This is pro ball.
Napa Auto Parts
Veteran
Well it was a great Game by our Texans that played at their best it wont get any better at least not anytime soon
brncoz1fan
Practice Squad
Hey Carr has the best pass rating in the NFL right now~~that says something
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Please, you dudes criticized him last year for not looking downfield enough & not trusting his recievers to make a play on the ball, then when he does, you have the above statement. Other Teams do this all the time (Eli to Plax all day last week anyone?), Is it his fault Kubes & Co. had Walter & Sheppard on the field? It was probably mean't as deception anyway; having your 3rd ,4th wideout on the field the defense relaxes thinking that you won't go deep with them. Furthermore you don't exactly have all the time in the world & only 1 Timeout left. I never said it was a "great" pass, didn't even say it was a "good" pass but you guys act like it was thrown on a frozen rope straight to wright. If Walter was any good, he could have at least touched the darn ball.
Mr. Old School
Practice Squad
The Texans offense is void of any type of leadership and the defense is in the identical situation. Into year 5, Carr still can't find the snap from center and balls are still being batted down by the opposition. We still have a rookie quarterback. No, it's not all his fault, but he should take his large share of the blame. How can the Texans win games with these deficiencies? I say 5 - 11.
Does he really? I knew he was up there, but I thought some other guys were further up. Anyway, Carr had some bad throws, but also showed why he was a number 1 pick.
jacquescas
Veteran
At this point our offensive line is horrible. We have no running game to speak of. Our defensive line applies absolutely no pressure, Mario Williams has shown nothing. Our linebackers and corners are average but with no pressure from the D-line they can't perform at all. Dunta Robinson is the only bright spot on defense, and Demeco Ryans.
I love this team but it seems like we fixed nothing. Thank god rockets season is almost here
I love this team but it seems like we fixed nothing. Thank god rockets season is almost here
Aztequila
Noob
Just a question I have, is there no way we can get a real HB. I thought getting dayne would work, so far no dice, I thought Gado showed promise, but he isnt being given the chance. I think we will continue to loose until we get a decent runner, or someone who is at least percieved as one. Is there no number 2 back in the league that may be ready to be featured available, right now it seems like we have 3 number 3s.
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
how can you assess a running game that wasn't used in the 2nd half?
I absolutely agree! It all boils down to leadership, and respect. It doesn't appear like there is anyone on the Texans offense that has stepped into that leadership position. David Carr is talented, and in an established offense could probably step in and be all pro, but maybe he's not cut out for the situation he's in.
Everyone admitted in the pre-season games that Antowain Smith brought the intangibles to the field, leadership and experience, and then they cut him and keep Morency and Taylor who were then traded and cut. I don't understand the management call on that one. I realize pre-season may not mean a whole lot, but we looked decent in pre-season, and now...well, now here we are again.
I love this team, and I'll continue to support them til the going gets good.
My 2 cents.
texan's blue
Noob
I absolutely agree! It all boils down to leadership, and respect. It doesn't appear like there is anyone on the Texans offense that has stepped into that leadership position. David Carr is talented, and in an established offense could probably step in and be all pro, but maybe he's not cut out for the situation he's in.
Everyone admitted in the pre-season games that Antowain Smith brought the intangibles to the field, leadership and experience, and then they cut him and keep Morency and Taylor who were then traded and cut. I don't understand the management call on that one. I realize pre-season may not mean a whole lot, but we looked decent in pre-season, and now...well, now here we are again.
I love this team, and I'll continue to support them til the going gets good.
My 2 cents.
I think that sums it up... no leadership on either side of the ball.
coachdent
Waterboy
First of all, Ron Dayne was not the problem yesterday. Giving up 400 yards of offense to the Washington Redskins was the problem.
Dayne has been actually pretty good compared to what we had. DD is not healthy and we didn't draft RBush, so I think picking up Dayne was a good move. He rushed for 4.1 a carry yesterday which isn't half bad. Gado apparently hasn't gotten the offense yet, so there really aren't any options out there fo rthe Texans. Name me a free agent out there who is a better option than Dayne, and I'll say Dayne is a problem. We have far more pressing concerns. Namely:
- Putting pressure on aging quarterbacks.
- Putting in a blitzing pressure package to defend the run and pass.
- Getting out of hideous prevent defenses with 9 seconds to go in the half and allowing a 30 yard touchdown on a simple trap.
- Finding a #3 wide receiver and a servicable #4 who can be on the field in 3rd and 9 instead of a fullback and two tight ends.
- Fining boneheaded defensive linemen who take cheap shots at quarterbacks when your team is running back a fumble for a touchdown.
Ron Dayne is not on the radar in pressing concerns.
Nawzer
Alienz
Yesterday's loss was really disheartening. I really thought we had a chance to win this game. Started of well enough but it all fell apart. Even after they came back to tie the game I thought we still have a good chance of winning. But that Portis run to end the half was killer. Absolute disaster. The defense is horrible. And don't talk about how much better it could've been if we drafted Bush or Young. Unless those two can play run stuffing defense or pass rush they wouldn't help us win. And I was a draft Bush guy! The Texans made us think that the defense really improved over the off season but it's gotten worse! Why does Richard Smith keep running away?! This guy basically scolded everyone in draft day so where is he now? How will the players respond if their coaches are like this??? The offense showed competence but once again too many mistakes. But this loss fall squarely on the shoulders of the defense. Even if they played average defense we could've won this game. But now I'm not sure when we get our first win. I'm hoping it's against Miami but if we could've provide pressure on a 36 year old qb how the hell will we stop a big, mobile qb like Culpepper?
Aztequila
Noob
I agree with the second part of your statement wholeheartedly. As for the first about Dayne. It's not that I think dayne is a bad back for the team, he was grinding it out on the field and looks like a work horse. The only thing is that we need a burst every once and a while, someone to cut up field and run, which I hear is our running plan. I guess I'm a bit premature in writing off the running game, but I was frustrated after seeing how well portis and betts did. The defense is more the pressing concern, your right about that.
coachdent
Waterboy
No question about the burst or lack thereof with Dayne. Definitely need a more explosive back. But for what he is and what he does and what he is capable of doing, I think Dayne is doing the best he can with the tools he has.