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First impressions thread.

Liked what I saw from Eric Winston. He played real steady and didn't jump the count. Saalam killed two drives that way. In the second period when Saalam got hurt Winston came in and was solid as we moved the ball down field. We get inside the 20 and they bring Saalam back and motion penalty to kill the drive. This kid can do the job it's time to let him play.
You can't win a race with a lame horse, and our starting tackles are lame......

Agreed. Sherman couldn't have been paying attention to his onlie to close or else he would have pulled Salaam. I'm not impressed Sherman's in game O line managment...
 
Every team that loses in the history of the NFL "beat themselves". Every loss can be attributed to errors, that's part of why you lost. The other part is because the other team didn't commit the same errors, and took advantage of yours. It's called playing better on the day, and winning.

I definitely agree with that. I don't think you're going to get some of the Texan fans to agree.

Sour grapes anyone?
 
What the hell is it with you Texans fans and admitting when you were out played? Almost every single post I see here seems to suggest the Texans were robbed or something, or that the Titans won some 1 in a 1000000 game. The only hint of game being given away came when the Titans almost let a backup QB beat them through the air mid way through the 3rd and beyond while relaxing with what they thought was a good enough lead combined with a crappy vanilla defensive scheme.

Where exactly did the Texans give the game away? When they were down 21-3? When they "let" KVB get 4 (oops I mean 2) sacks? When they threw two interceptions? When they were burnt by a 53 yard punt return TD by a top NFL returner? when they "let" a fumble be returned for a TD? it's called being outplayed by the better team on the day - deal with it. You don't turn the ball over 0 times while taking it away 5 times and win a game because it was given to you - but you DO turn the ball over 5 times and take the ball 0 times and almost win because a game was almost given to you.
If you don't think teams give away games, you haven't been watching for very long. Philadelphia, Washington, Indy flat out kicked our butts. Yesterday, the Texans dominated the game and continuously shot themselves in the foot, with an INT here, a fumble there, here a dropped ball everywhere a false start.....When they quit making mistakes, they almost came back and took the game from you.

Enjoy your win. See you in December.
 
my second thoughts about the game:

First I want to say that we have some fair weather fans..... fair weather Carr fans at that, and you should be ashamed of yourselves. All of you guys who started your "criticism" about Carr, since yesterday, with "I've defended him, but after today I can't" should feel the worst.

I just re-watched the first half, and he didn't have his worse game of the year, far from it. It might have been his best game of the year.

Now before I get too much into it, I want to say if you share Vinny's opinion of Carr & his play, then you're right, he's still that same guy, and he had a poor game based on what Vinny, and guys like Vinny want to see.

But if you thought he has been playing well this season, and showing great improvement, and having a heck of a year, yesterday was a very good day for David Carr.

One of the things I noticed about David, Starting with the preseason games, after he got sacked, his footwork got all screwed up. Before the sack, he would stride back, every step the same, he'd have a rhythm, a gallop..... the spacing of his feet would be the same, his steps would follow a cadence. but after a sack.... that would go away. sometimes he'd cross his feet, sometimes he wouldn't. sometimes they'd open shoulder width, sometimes wider, sometimes shorter. It was like he was anxious, and his mind was telling him to do one thing, and his body wanted to do something else.

That stopped at around the Washington game..... & in the first half, against the Titans, it was still gone. KVB sacked him three times before the half(only one counted) & he was hit several times.... but his feet looked good.

I think it was the Indy game that I saw improvement in his willingness to look downfield as he was getting hit. Again, in Miami, he was doing very well looking downfield, as he was getting hit. Against Tennessee, he was looking downfield as he was getting hit. Remember that INT.... he got hit at the knees right after he let the ball go(he never should have let that ball go) & there was no flag even though that hit was worse than the KVB low blow.

Remember the play that David ran for like 8 yards, and he pump faked the ball to freeze the defender, then dove head first?? Well before all that, he did his perfect little 5 step drop, looking down field. I think it was Wiegarts guy who after he was ran around Carr came back to Carr from his left.... Carr takes a step to the right, never taking his sights from downfield. he then steps to the right a couple of more steps, then decides to take off down field.

Then there was that ball he drilled into the dirt, for no apparent reason. Well that apparent reason was a big Defensive end in his face. He hit his elbow on the guys helmet as he threw the ball, hence the sharp drop straight to the ground.


He didn't stretch the field by throwing the ball deep. But he didn't really do that in any of the other games......... shure, he threw the Jumpball to AJ in the Jax game, & he threw that beautiful bomb to Aj in the Washington game, and he got AJ on the one against Philly. & those were good throws... but one or two a game doesn't stretch the field. So if you were happy with Carr's down field throws before this game, you should have no problems with his refusal( I call it refusal, I don't have proof that you'd believe, but I call it refusal) to throw the ball down field in this game. He usually waits till the 4th Qtr, when he has no other choice....

He did fumble the ball twice, but if you think he had a good game against INdy, Washington, & Miami, then you should have no problem with Sunday's game. He fumbled the ball at least twice in those games, only none of them were returned for touchdowns.

He basically had the same game yesterday that he's been having all year. I just don't understand why soooo many Carr lovers all of a sudden flipped.
 
If you don't think teams give away games, you haven't been watching for very long. Philadelphia, Washington, Indy flat out kicked our butts. Yesterday, the Texans dominated the game and continuously shot themselves in the foot, with an INT here, a fumble there, here a dropped ball everywhere a false start.....When they quit making mistakes, they almost came back and took the game from you.

Enjoy your win. See you in December.

Teams can only give away games that their opponents are able to take. Did the Cardinals give away their MNF game? Not entirely - the Bears defense and ST met them halfway with some huge plays.

The Texans made a lot of mistakes and met half way with the Titans mistake free day. If the Titans didn't play mistake free, they likely would have lost. Therefore, the Titans won the game because they played better football on the day. The game wasn't handed to them - they still had to play good football to win it, and they did that.

As I said, mistakes are why teams lose 99% of the time. That isn't an excuse for "giving the game away". The Texans played poorly and a better performance may have lead to a win, but that doesn't mean they gave the game away to an undeserving opponent.

BTW, why do you think the Texans "dominated"? Because they had the ball more and racked up more yards and TOP? Yeah, you get that when you start with short field position due to 5 take aways, and give up an offensive possession on a punt return TD. Sorry, but yards and TOP don't equate to domination, scoring and playing mistake free football is domination, both of which the Titans lead in. I'm not trying to rub anything in, I don't get satisfaction from tormenting fans we beat when it's likely only going to be one of our few wins this season, but i've never seen a fanbase so relucant to admit they were beaten by another football team. You don't have to beat a team 40-10 and out yardage them 3:1 to be the better team on the day.
 
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