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Fire Casserly!!!!!!
- Thread starter thetexanator
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Porky
Hall of Fame
Hey Hey Hey Casserly's gonna stay. ho ho ho, casserly's gotta go.
I would give him a C+ on the picks he has actually selected and a C- on the drafts overall. His 2nd rounders are nothing short of a disaster, and the 3rd isn't much better. To his credit, the 1st, 4th and 6th rounds have produced some gems. He has tried to be too cute in the use of his picks, often trading away picks on a whim, and trying to hit on some small school guys too early, ie Wand, and blows picks on unneeded positions, like backup QB, when we have more pressing needs.
In FA and trades, I would give him a D-. The Pburnt trade alone should have been enough to fire him. We way overpaid for a proven reject. Giving up 2 valuable 1st day picks and in essence Aaron Glenn is inexcusable. On that basis alone, he should be in the unemployment line. The Babin trade was a disaster too. This guy has been involved in more disasters than the captain of the Titanic, but he somehow retains his job, while Capers is thrown overboard.
Wrong, Mr. Mcnair. The fans want and deserve better.
I would give him a C+ on the picks he has actually selected and a C- on the drafts overall. His 2nd rounders are nothing short of a disaster, and the 3rd isn't much better. To his credit, the 1st, 4th and 6th rounds have produced some gems. He has tried to be too cute in the use of his picks, often trading away picks on a whim, and trying to hit on some small school guys too early, ie Wand, and blows picks on unneeded positions, like backup QB, when we have more pressing needs.
In FA and trades, I would give him a D-. The Pburnt trade alone should have been enough to fire him. We way overpaid for a proven reject. Giving up 2 valuable 1st day picks and in essence Aaron Glenn is inexcusable. On that basis alone, he should be in the unemployment line. The Babin trade was a disaster too. This guy has been involved in more disasters than the captain of the Titanic, but he somehow retains his job, while Capers is thrown overboard.
Wrong, Mr. Mcnair. The fans want and deserve better.
LBC_Justin
Rookie
HoustonFrog said:
You can argue and certainly question CC's decision in Houston but the guy has a history of doing great things with personnel.
Maybe you should read his bio:
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/front_office_detail.php?PRKey=33
I just want to win. If that means no CC fine. So be it. But let's no go crazy and chop heads off just for the sake of chopping heads off.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
LBC_Justin said:
WRONG, his history, on his own, is terrible. They about had to run him out of Washington. His best years were with Bobby Bethard over his shoulder. On his own he made horrible 1st round picks and really ran them into the ground.
http://www.houstonprofootball.com/slant/slant58.html
LBC_Justin
Rookie
Porky said:Hey Hey Hey Casserly's gonna stay. ho ho ho, casserly's gotta go.
I would give him a C+ on the picks he has actually selected and a C- on the drafts overall. His 2nd rounders are nothing short of a disaster, and the 3rd isn't much better. To his credit, the 1st, 4th and 6th rounds have produced some gems. He has tried to be too cute in the use of his picks, often trading away picks on a whim, and trying to hit on some small school guys too early, ie Wand, and blows picks on unneeded positions, like backup QB, when we have more pressing needs.
In FA and trades, I would give him a D-. The Pburnt trade alone should have been enough to fire him. We way overpaid for a proven reject. Giving up 2 valuable 1st day picks and in essence Aaron Glenn is inexcusable. On that basis alone, he should be in the unemployment line. The Babin trade was a disaster too. This guy has been involved in more disasters than the captain of the Titanic, but he somehow retains his job, while Capers is thrown overboard.
Wrong, Mr. Mcnair. The fans want and deserve better.
These decisions are not as bad as you think. Hardly Blown picks
To CC's credit the pick of "back up" QB's is some of the best picks he has made.
We have only picked 3 back up QBs in the draft in 4 years.
1. Drew Henson (late 6th round: 192nd overall pick)
2. Dave Ragone (late 3rd round: 88th overall pick)
3. B.J. Symons (very very late 7th round: 248th overall pick...basically in the "play the lottery" section of the draft)
using this chart (which most GMs use a form of when doing draft day trades):
http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/pvc.gif
we used pick values of
Ragone: 150 points
Henson: 15.6 points
Symons: 0.8 points
Traded Henson to Dallas for the 78th overall pick worth: 200 points
So in drafting those "Back up QB's" we ended up with a solid back up in Ragone (who kicked butt last year in NFLE).
And we ended up with an extra 3rd round pick. (Casserly created this pick and then, it was sent to the Raiders in the B-puc deal. Yes it sucks that the pick is gone but look at it this way, it was Casserly's wheeling and dealing that got us that pick in the first place. Who knows p-buc might still work out. Most of his problems are mental not physical and he has been coached by Capers and Turner, not exactly the cream of the crop.)
In conclusion: YES we do need to draft several O-lineman this draft. Just to make us fans feel we are at least making an effort to protect our QB if nothing else.
GO TEXANS!!!!
Stay positive!!!
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
LBC, thje problem is that the Henson pick wasn't a throw away pick. They gave up the pick to get Henson. A 3rd rounder is a high pick. He then wasted it on Buchanan. That is all on him. It wasn't an spare pick to throw away. It was a pick for a guy he took with another pick.
LBC_Justin
Rookie
It was a 6th round pick we gave up to get Henson. The chance of getting a starter with a 6th round pick is probably about 20 to 1....maybe 10 to 1 at best.HoustonFrog said:
run-david-run
All Pro
fire casserly
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SESupergenius
Guest
The chance of Casserly screwing up this traded pick: 2-1 Priceless.LBC_Justin said:
Hervoyel
BUENO!
ATX_Texan said:
In whose eyes does he have to beat Tony Banks out? Joe Pendry's? Seth Wand got benched in favor of Victor Riley. Derrick Armstrong can't even get off the bench and all he does is catch the ball every single time it gets within reach of him. Corey Bradford is firmly locked in as our other starting wideout.
There are a number of good reasons why Ragone may not be "all that" but the fact that he can't advance on our team in spite of the fact that a lousy player is starting in front of him isn't one of those reasons.
Our coaches couldn't spot a diamond in a goats... never mind.
NederlandTexan
Waterboy
These "FIRE......." posts have gotten out of hand. Enough already.
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SESupergenius
Guest
I thought the philosophy was working, bring in some veterans on the defense and start with that base, the draft offensive talent and let them groom. We were increasing our wins every year until now because we let go of Sharper, Coleman, McCree, and Wright and didn't really have rookies that we groomed to replace them. We also didn't add good quality veterans to our offense to help them along. If you call Banks, Wade, Riley and Bruener our good quality veterans then you must fall in line with Casserly's thinking.
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SESupergenius
Guest
fire Casserly.NederlandTexan said:
ATX_Texan
Waterboy
If Casserly drafted a quaterback that the coaching staff would not play, then he is a wasted draft pick. It would have been better to draft a player the staff actually would use. But wait, I thought Capers was the guy telling Casserly who to draft. My bad, I keep forgetting that Casserly only was responsible for the good players like AJ and DD.
SESupergenius said:
Hmmm. Interesting list of names - I wouldn't lump them together though.
Banks - For as much playing time as he gets I'd have Ragone at 2nd string, but I'm judging that PT in hindsight so that's really not fair. I'm not big on Banks, but it is hard for any veteran QB to mentor a young one from the bench.
Wade - Cost aside, I really think he was a quality verteran when he got here, but he has seriously regressed - place the blame for the regression where you like.
Riley - I think he was added to be an upgrade over Marcus Spears and therefore was intended to see very little PT unless it was an emergency. I don't think Casserly could have guessed Pendry would name him the best darn LT on the team and watch him get obliterated game after game at LT and then move him to guard when even Pendry himself couldn't stand seeing him at LT anymore.
Breuner - I think he has been a quality veteran for what he was intended for; Joppru's injuries color the evaluation of Breuner. If Joppru was our all around tight end and Breuner the bruiser, he'd be thought of highly right now.
HJam72
Hall of Fame
It is going to be really interesting to see what happens with a new coaching staff. Will they bench Bradford? Who will start in his place? Mathis? Armstrong? What WILL they think of Carr? Will Ragone get more of a shot? How much will Orr play? What kind of performance will we get out of Babin and Peek? Who will start on the O-line and at what positions? Will they use more man-to-man coverage and, if so, then how much better will Buchannon and D-Rob be? Is Glenn Earl the answer? What's going to happen with CC Brown and how much longer will Coleman last?
If we don't get Kubiak, what blocking scheme will we use (I think this is huge)? I don't even want to get into 4-3 or 3-4.
It is possible that we're wrong about Casserly, because I have no doubt that our recently released coaching staff was clueless. I just hope that McNair keeps Cass on a somewhat shorter leash, as he has said he will.
If we don't get Kubiak, what blocking scheme will we use (I think this is huge)? I don't even want to get into 4-3 or 3-4.
It is possible that we're wrong about Casserly, because I have no doubt that our recently released coaching staff was clueless. I just hope that McNair keeps Cass on a somewhat shorter leash, as he has said he will.
Coach C.
Veteran
If it is Kubiak his offseason would go something like....
Bradford,McKinney, Coleman gone. Orr, Peek resigned to one-year Orr gets the mid and Peek gets the low. If they want Peek they have to give us a 3rd rounder and no one will do that. Gaffney and AJ are the starters, and Mathis is the 3rd receiver. We will also bring in someone. Carr is our guy and he is gonna be freakin sweet. We are gonna play man to man and use D-Rob like Bailey he will cover whoever the best WR on the other team. Depending on the DC will determine the switch, but denver runs a 4-3 with some 3-4. CC Brown and Glen Earl are the starters, but a rookie S plays into the picture. The offseason we sign LeCharles Bentley and he becomes one of the three prongs on our anchor. Pitts and rookie are the other two. After that he takes these guys to training camp and beats the hell out of them. He comes to a press conference and says we played soft and this year we are gonna play like we have balls. Enjoy the season. Would go more indepth but just tired of typing. Add on as you see fit.
Bradford,McKinney, Coleman gone. Orr, Peek resigned to one-year Orr gets the mid and Peek gets the low. If they want Peek they have to give us a 3rd rounder and no one will do that. Gaffney and AJ are the starters, and Mathis is the 3rd receiver. We will also bring in someone. Carr is our guy and he is gonna be freakin sweet. We are gonna play man to man and use D-Rob like Bailey he will cover whoever the best WR on the other team. Depending on the DC will determine the switch, but denver runs a 4-3 with some 3-4. CC Brown and Glen Earl are the starters, but a rookie S plays into the picture. The offseason we sign LeCharles Bentley and he becomes one of the three prongs on our anchor. Pitts and rookie are the other two. After that he takes these guys to training camp and beats the hell out of them. He comes to a press conference and says we played soft and this year we are gonna play like we have balls. Enjoy the season. Would go more indepth but just tired of typing. Add on as you see fit.
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SESupergenius
Guest
If we go to a 4-3 then it will probably be Orr, Wong and Geenwood to be linebackers. They need to draft an ILB, another positions they failed to address.Coach C. said: