He played 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT. he was above average at both positions and in theory like Watt could have played strong De in a 4-3 if needed.
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Finally: Romeo Crennel Hired as DC
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He played 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT. he was above average at both positions and in theory like Watt could have played strong De in a 4-3 if needed.
I've heard the cap is going up in 2015. The new TV deal kicks in.
Stop letting facts getting in the way of all of that Texans hate. Seems to me BoB finally made a potentially great hire.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Hell, that's a huge understatement. And I loved Seymour in NE. One of the dumbest moves by BB he ever made. But Seymour couldn't hold Watt's jockstrap. Watt is just another type of beast.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
RAC does more 1 gaping than people initially think. Seymore had 10 sacks 1 yr and ty warren had 8. =hose were multiple,great defensive teams. He also turned teddy bruschi,a former 4-3 de into a hell raising ilb( brooks reed get ready). He plays a lot of zone and as someone mntioned,from ted washington to wilfolk to poe,he likes the immoveable nt. Been wanting romeo for awhile,glad he's here now,hopefully.
if this turns out to be true i would be super pumped
and if you think watt is gonna wanna stick around to get sacks his whole career you are crazy, i think he wants to win more than anything
the one thing that stands out to me is that amazing defense the chiefs played a couple years back to give the packers their first loss of the season.. big upset
and if you think watt is gonna wanna stick around to get sacks his whole career you are crazy, i think he wants to win more than anything
the one thing that stands out to me is that amazing defense the chiefs played a couple years back to give the packers their first loss of the season.. big upset
I don't know how people think this wouldn't be a good hire. To me, Derrick Johnson hasn't been the same guy since Romeo left Kansas City and he helped develop a lot of that top notch defense there. If Romeo falls through I still say bring Mangini in. Brilliant football mind even as awkward as he can be at times.
P.S. Please ignore the results from today since he's not there anymore and it ruins my argument.
P.S. Please ignore the results from today since he's not there anymore and it ruins my argument.
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
Derrick Johnson?
Yeah, that's my mistake. Although Thomas would have been a great fit in his defense.
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
He and JJ on the same team would be something to behold for sure.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Thomas would have been a great fit on any team when you put it that way. I think he'll be a nice fit here with O'Brien, but I just hope that he still has the same kind of fire at his old age. He is the same age is Wade if I'm not mistaken.
PapaL
Loose Screw
He's not son of bum. He's not a local. And something else. Hmmm...
Pudgy? So was Wade.........
J/K, don't matter to me, to quote Al Davis, "Just win baby".
Surreal McCoy
Rookie
Yup. Just trading one Good Ol' Boy network for another. The King is dead, long live the King!
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I like this! We need to see what Crennel can do! He also has a long history of being a great DC! I still remember those Pats D when he ran it!
There's only one problem with how people that remember how those Pats D were when Crennel ran it.
The Colts cried like little bitches after Ty Law and the Pats were able to assault them.. and then Video gate came out and regardless if people want to admit it or not, that now comes into play.
The league does NOT allow you to abuse or even get a feel up on offensive players the way those Pats were able to do to other team's offensive players, so that has to be taken into consideration.
I think this guy has a good enough eye to identify defensive talent that can help us, but the way that Pats team was able to defend is long gone with the way this game is called today. Those teams would be flagged up and down the field if they played today.
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Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
I guess you don't count dead money or you expect the cuts to be June 1 cuts and create 2014 space at the expense of 2015 when we pay Watt.
We all need to really think about what signing Watt would mean & if it's worth it if it is going to limit us & our ability to add talent to this team the way many seem to believe.
We don't know what the 2015 salary cap is going to be, but as it stands, we would be $30M under the cap in 2014 & $37M under the cap in 2015 just by making Schaub & Jjo June 1st cuts.
Andre Johnson will have a $16M cap number. Duane Brown, Arian Foster, Brian Cushing & Chris Myers, all have contracts that could be renegotiated in 2015. Chris Myers may even be cut depending on what he looks like in 2014. We could gain $6M right there.
Mario Williams had a $9M cap hit in 2012 with no dead money. $12M cap hit in 2013, then escalates to $18M in 2014 & $19M for 2015 & 2016. Most of that can be made up by restructuring Andre's contract. If we plan for him to be a Texan for life, we'll be offering him another extension anyway.
"Draft only" pretty much got us where we are today. If we're going to compete with Baltimore, San Francisco, Seattle, Denver... Rick Smith (or whoever our GM is going to be) will have to improve on his FA acquisitions.
phantom17
Rookie
Carr- I'm not saying that we need to be exactly like the Pat's D of old, & new rules changes will not allow it. I just want a new strong, well known, & respected DC to run this Texans D & to identify the right type of players! No more Frank Bushes to run things!
speedfreek
All Pro
Billy just like Gary -- bringing in his old buddies. Lets hope
that side of the Belichick tree learned something the last time they were
fired..
Any old patriot GM's out there? If so -- Watch out Rick Smith
that side of the Belichick tree learned something the last time they were
fired..
Any old patriot GM's out there? If so -- Watch out Rick Smith
Brace yourselves.
phantom17
Rookie
LOL, TK- you don't have to tell me that! I have been following Houston sports teams since 1981! I pretty much seen 'em all! No bandwagon fan here!
Texans Pride
Veteran
Looks like this guy has jumped the gun, nothing official but more info.
http://nflspinzone.com/2014/01/04/r...ston-texans-bill-obrien-fires-previous-staff/
Out is Wade Phillips and the old members of the Houston Texans coaching staff, and in comes Romeo Crennel to replace Phillips as the Texans defensive coordinator. A Crennel-to-the-Texans move has been in the cards ever since a rumor surfaced yesterday, and FOX Sportss Alex Marvez reports, citing a source, that OBrien has fired the previous staff and has indeed brought on Crennel to be the new Texans defensive coordinator.
http://nflspinzone.com/2014/01/04/r...ston-texans-bill-obrien-fires-previous-staff/
Out is Wade Phillips and the old members of the Houston Texans coaching staff, and in comes Romeo Crennel to replace Phillips as the Texans defensive coordinator. A Crennel-to-the-Texans move has been in the cards ever since a rumor surfaced yesterday, and FOX Sportss Alex Marvez reports, citing a source, that OBrien has fired the previous staff and has indeed brought on Crennel to be the new Texans defensive coordinator.
I've been saying for the last 8 yrs the only way to build a great team is to draft well and use FA/trades to fill in the rest of the holes. This is the Pats way. It cant get to Houston soon enough.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I would've went with a D coord who coaches a attacking 4-3 (as I think our defensive roster is more suited for it, Wade coached a 3-4, but it was more of a hybrid 4-3) but that's just me. This hire means two things to me.
1. McNair's "we're not rebuilding" statement is clear out the window
and
2. This upcoming draft's resources is going to be mainly spent on acquiring defensive talent to make this defense work since we're going to need to find the right pieces to the puzzle. (see point 1. and why we're "rebuilding")
Off the bat, we're going to have to replace 2 defensive lineman, 2 LBs (and the only reason why it isn't 3 is because Mercilus is still Smith's first round pick) , and a safety. That's half the defense (not even counting the new back ups or players we cut for cap space) and that's without even addressing the offensive holes. We are in complete rebuild mode.. when McNair tells you different, he's either lying straight to your face or is completely delusional. If I had to choose I hope he's just lying, because you can still be competent while trying to b.s. the masses. However competence and delusional do not go hand in hand. I hope Bob recognizes what he's up against and doesn't truly believe that this isn't a rebuilding project. This is the definition of a rebuilding project.
1. McNair's "we're not rebuilding" statement is clear out the window
and
2. This upcoming draft's resources is going to be mainly spent on acquiring defensive talent to make this defense work since we're going to need to find the right pieces to the puzzle. (see point 1. and why we're "rebuilding")
Off the bat, we're going to have to replace 2 defensive lineman, 2 LBs (and the only reason why it isn't 3 is because Mercilus is still Smith's first round pick) , and a safety. That's half the defense (not even counting the new back ups or players we cut for cap space) and that's without even addressing the offensive holes. We are in complete rebuild mode.. when McNair tells you different, he's either lying straight to your face or is completely delusional. If I had to choose I hope he's just lying, because you can still be competent while trying to b.s. the masses. However competence and delusional do not go hand in hand. I hope Bob recognizes what he's up against and doesn't truly believe that this isn't a rebuilding project. This is the definition of a rebuilding project.
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Hardcore Texan
Magnet Man
So BOB has a RAC? Nice RAC, BOB.
Now that is something I don`t understand. Why rebuild? 2 defensive linemen? Crick and Mitchell might take at least one of those spots. Smith was always in danger because of his high salary. No big difference personal wise to us staying with the same system.
2 LBs? Well we probably needed 1 inside LB no matter what and another one that can rush the passer. Depending on Sharpton and Reed, that number might be reduced to one and some depth.
Safety? Why? If Manning is cut, we would always need a replacement. If Not, him an Swearinger would be decent starters.
In effect, personal wise, we don`t really need that much more players than if we`d stay put. I´d argue NT is the only real difference, because it went from "could use an upgrade" to "definetly needs an upgrade". And overall we need:
1 NT starter
DE depth
1-2 LB starters
And that`s about it on defense. Far from a rebuild. On offense we are fine with a new QB and some line help - perhaps a new TE. Overall we can "fix" this team with 5-7 new players. And we still have so much talent on this team, that we were considered superbowl contenders before last season.
dtran04
Veteran
A little concerned Crennel is taking this long to decide if he wants to coach again -- wonder if his heart's not in it?
His people are waiting to be "persuaded" by a bigger salary....
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
A little concerned Crennel is taking this long to decide if he wants to coach again -- wonder if his heart's not in it?
Lots of head coaching jobs out there .
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Nobody calling him for HC that I've heard.
Perhaps his age, plus watching that kid blow his brains out in front of him has taken the "want to" out of Crennel. Must have been traumatic. Dunno...
Naija Texan
Waterboy
Yeah, I think that spot with the suicide probably hurt Crennel a lot and he most likely needs some time deal with that.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
A million times this ^.
Here's frank Bush's resume before becoming the DC of the Texans:
5th round pick by the Oilers in 1985 and started 11 games. In 1986 he quit the NFL because he had a "narrow spinal canal."
1987-94 - Became a scout for the Oilers
95-99 - Linebackers coach for the Broncos (2 time SB champs)
2000 - Secondary coach for Broncos
2001-2003 - Special Teams coach
2004-2006 - Linebackers coach for the Cardinals
Crennel's Resume:
1970-1974 Western Kentucky (Defensive Line Coach)
1975-1977 Texas Tech (Defensive Assistant)
1978-1979 Ole Miss (Defensive Ends Coach)
1980 Georgia Tech (Defensive Line Coach)
1981-1992 New York Giants (1981-1989) (Special Teams Coach)
(1990-1992) (Defensive Line Coach)
1993-1996 New England Patriots (Defensive Line Coach)
1997-1999 New York Jets (Defensive Line Coach)
2000 Cleveland Browns (Defensive Coordinator)
2001-2004 New England Patriots (Defensive Coordinator)
2005-2008 Cleveland Browns (Head Coach)
2010-2012 Kansas City Chiefs (2010-2012) (Defensive Coordinator)
(2011) (Interim Head Coach)
(2012) (Head Coach)
I'll gladly give contestant number 2 a shot. Thank you very much.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
I think it was said earlier in the thread but it might bear repeating again.
Crennel is coaching the East-West Shrine game. Only non-NFL coaches can do this.
Theory is while he may be committed to coming here, he won't be announced till after he has coached that game and got some first hand exposure to some draft prospects.
Crennel is coaching the East-West Shrine game. Only non-NFL coaches can do this.
Theory is while he may be committed to coming here, he won't be announced till after he has coached that game and got some first hand exposure to some draft prospects.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Ahh, totally missed that. Thanks.
PapaL
Loose Screw
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Other than being DC for 3 SB wins?
Not too much {Sarcasm/////)
I guess the bar around here has been raised to 5-10 SB's?
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
This site loses all credability when they say Deenison may be one of the best OCs on the market, and why would bob want an OC when he calls his own plays. HAHA Kubiak called his own plays as well, and Dennison was less than impressive when he actually did call the plays
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
And having 5 SB rings with 6 SB appearances... and having coached under Ray Perkins and Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick... having been in the league since 1981 and universally liked by his players?
Not a successful HC -- where Trent Dilfer was the best QB he ever had (Charlie Frye, anyone?) -- but pretty good record on staff.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
TheIronDuke
All Pro
Thanks, I said that earlier in this thread. I thought I remembered Phillips doing the same thing.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Too lazy to go back and find out who said it, valuable insight.
Do you think its worth it for him to wait and not start putting together his defensive staff or do you think the wheels are already in motion for that too? Evaluation could come without him being the coach.
BO'B knows who RC wants and is working on getting them as we speak. (Probably)
My thinking as well, but I guess there's value in coaching up these kids to see what they have. Most of the players in the game or 3rd-4th round or later prospects, but its important for us to hit on a few of those this year considering none of ours besides Griffin did a single thing this year. ( Technically Chris Jones did but it wasn't for us ). That was a wasted opportunity considering how bad we were.
If he can get insight into some of these players not normally accessible then I guess I'm good with it. Hopefully some of our 2013 picks step up next year too. It looks like a blown draft right now though.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
My guess Crennel is on staff in everything but paperwork. Crennel will have his guys and know who is available.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
Yea, how long ago was it since he coached a super caliber defense? A decade? Now add in the fact he hasn't coached a highly touted defense and one could argue with the way the nfl is now a days, his coaching is out dated and not relevant.
Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
That might be the way that it works now, but it didn't work that way when Wade was hired. Wade got hired on January 5 and the game was on January 22.