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Favre Thread - Traded to Jets

PapaL said:
Also interesting news - Phonce records have been traced from a cell phone that was issued to Brett by the Packers. Records show numerous calls to the MIN HC and OC.

All of a sudden those tampering charges have sturdy legs to stand on.
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Hilarious. Chalk up some draft picks for the Packers, courtesy of the Vikings--and they didn't even have to trade Favre to get them. Last year, the Niners had to give the Bears a pick or two for talking to Lance Briggs.

That's why you NEVER pull any hanky-panky with the company phone.
 
with this report on ESPN, Favre looks to be pretty much screwed. They have phone records and dumbarse Favre called the Vikings on a team-issued phone. Favre knew he wasn't allowed to contact another team but it looks like he did. I don't know if there is any wiggle room if you are on the 'Retired' list or not.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3501459

One thing is for sure. Goodell wants Favre to play this year. That much is already known and unless this tampering charge somehow derails Favre's interest, Favre will end up somewhere.

I also think that the Vikings may not be completely liable in this situation as the reports on the phone records show that FAVRE called the Vikings and not the other way around. They could suspend Favre though but doubt Goodell wants that to happen. Favre playing in 2008 helps the league. The NFL regular season is barely 5 months long...they love stories and they love drama (because the public eats it up)....just not police blotter.

Just have the Vikings give up next years 3rd Rounder and a conditional 1st Rounder if the Vikings make the SuperBowl. Just make this all go away and get Favre back in pads. Pretty freaking simple and the Packers can live with their decision to not take Favre back. If Favre wants to play, he will play and due to the situation the Packers arent going to get a lot for him.

Favre got SELF-OWNED or cellphoned...however you want to put it :)
dude made a dumb mistake and it may cost him his best chance at returning to a decent team.
 
If he's friends with the Vikings guys who's to say he's not just calling them on a personal level? Something he may have done tons of times before.....
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Not unless the Department of Homeland Security thinks they're security risks and has their phones tapped.

Phone conversations are not generally recorded.
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I guess we will never know what was said then I knew that I don't know what I was thinking.
 
WWJD said:
If he's friends with the Vikings guys who's to say he's not just calling them on a personal level? Something he may have done tons of times before.....
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That's why people have personal lines and they have business lines. Anything that can be misconstrued against your employer should not be done on company time with company resources; that's why there is a personal line/time.
 
This is from an nfl.com story, which then sends you to a Wisconsin newspaper website...featuring a story posted there on July 23: List Of Possible Trade Partners For Favre

Quotes from the story:

According to a league source, the teams on that list include the New York Jets, the Baltimore Ravens, the Miami Dolphins and the Houston Texans in the AFC and the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Atlanta Falcons and Washington Redskins in the NFC
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I doubt that the Texans are interested. I bet we're listed because we're in the AFC and Ted knows (A) Kubiak and Smith probably are NOT interested, and (B) Brett wouldn't come here anyways.

My bet is that the commissioner is going to force a trade, and Brett will land in either Tampa Bay or Atlanta. Redskins would have a shot just because Snyder is dumb enough to pay a lot for a superstar name.

I don't see the Dolphins having enough to surround Brett with, nor would Parcells trade away draft picks at this stage of the team's development. The Jets would be an odd fit, IMO, and the Ravens seem to have a log jam at QB...besides, they have a strong scouting team which probably would not want to let go of multiple draft picks for an aging QB. The Panthers? John Fox is not going to bet his future on a QB that he probably wouldn't be able to get even if he asked for it.

I think Brett is a short-term solution for either Tampa Bay or Atlanta. Gruden has QBs that he'll dump in a heartbeat if he gets a proven QB (especially one he worked with in GB). Atlanta is a strong possibility for two reasons (1) It would give Matt Ryan a year to ride the pine and crawl before being asked to walk, and (2) It would be a homecoming for Favre, a sort of "going away, one last ride!" gig that might give Arthur Blank some much needed distance from the constant negative pub of the Vick debacle.

(Sigh) I can't believe the commissioner is basically FORCING a team to go against its will on something. I really figured that he was a stern and objective commissioner, but apparently his team of advisers and maybe even the NFLPA is convincing him that it's bad for the NFL's image to allow GB to shut Brett out of a return? I dunno. This is about to boil over.

All I can say for sure is that he ain't going to (A) an NFC North team, and (B) nor is he going to go to a strong contender that might meet up with the Packers at some point in a pivotal game.
 
gary said:
He should have used his personal line if he was not tampering.
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You really shouldn't be contacting people your contract says you're not supposed to be calling. And I believe there are standard clauses saying you can't be talking to the coaches of another team and vice versa.

There were already charges of tampering and the NFL might have the right to request Favre's home phone records as well. So even if he had made the calls from his home lines, he still might have been in trouble.
 
According to the Chron, Tampa Bay is the most likely destination for Farve.

Report: NFL keeping tabs on Favre situation

MILWAUKEE — NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is monitoring the ongoing rift between the Green Bay Packers and Brett Favre.

A person with direct knowledge of Goodell's interest said the commissioner has spoken with Packers management several times recently as tensions mounted between the three-time MVP and his team.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the talks.

ESPN.com first reported Goodell's interest in the Favre predicament, indicating that Goodell encouraged Packers general manager Ted Thompson to survey teams around the league to try to find a trade partner in hopes of resolving it quickly.

With the Packers committed to moving forward with Aaron Rodgers as their starter and Favre apparently still intent on reversing his decision to retire in March — although there have been no reports that Favre has formally petitioned Goodell for reinstatement — the best outcome for both parties could be a trade.

And Tampa Bay is emerging as perhaps the most likely destination for Favre, although it is unclear whether Favre would be willing to play for the Buccaneers.

NFL.com reported Tuesday that the Packers had spoken to several teams to gauge their interest in a trade for Favre. Tampa Bay officials have publicly downplayed interest in trading for Favre, but Buccaneers quarterback Chris Simms told the St. Petersburg Times that Bucs general manager Bruce Allen asked him about Favre last week.

"He asked if I felt Brett would be able to come back and be good here if he didn't have a lot of reps in training camp," Simms said, according to the paper. "I said I thought he would but there would have to be some compromise with coach (Jon) Gruden. He'll just want the play called and to drop back and throw it in there. But it's something we talked about."

Gruden was a Packers assistant coach from 1992-94 and runs a version of the West Coast offense Favre would be familiar with.

The Packers play the Buccaneers Sept. 28 in Tampa.
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I like Favre, but he doesn't have a leg to stand on, IMHO. Perhaps the NFL's front office will force the issue, but the Packers hold the cards and should have the right to make whatever decision(s) is best for their team.
 
GP said:
Condensed
All I can say for sure is that he ain't going to (A) an NFC North team, and (B) nor is he going to go to a strong contender that might meet up with the Packers at some point in a pivotal game.
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Without Favre the Packers wont be in any games that matter ... Its a little much to expect Rodgers to come in and get that team to the play-offs much less the NFC Championship game . With Favre they probably win the division , without Favre they are picking in the top 5 in next years draft .
 
corrosion said:
Without Favre the Packers wont be in any games that matter ... Its a little much to expect Rodgers to come in and get that team to the play-offs much less the NFC Championship game . With Favre they probably win the division , without Favre they are picking in the top 5 in next years draft .
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I wouldn't go that far. We don't know how well Aaron Rodgers may turn out to be. For all we know, he may be like Steve Young who sat behind a legend while he waited his turn.
 
Did anyone just see that? didn't even pick my head up unl after segment was over. Thankfully the DVR caught it. Eric picked the Texans as is surprise wild card team and they showed mario highlights.
 
I heard that segment earlier today. I may be wrong, but I thought they were talking about which teams were wild cards to sign Brett Favre.</sacrassam>
 
The Pencil Neck said:
You really shouldn't be contacting people your contract says you're not supposed to be calling. And I believe there are standard clauses saying you can't be talking to the coaches of another team and vice versa.

There were already charges of tampering and the NFL might have the right to request Favre's home phone records as well. So even if he had made the calls from his home lines, he still might have been in trouble.
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They should have said good bye and hanged up on him.
 
Your right, I just re-watched it. Well I would be about as excited to have Farve as I would Barry Bonds signing with the astros. It's just not the press we need.
 
I am so sick of hearing about Farve! So if he does come back and play one more season are we going to have to go through all this crap again. Don't get me wrong, I like Farve and I liked watching him play and know what a legend and legacy he has left......but can we please move forward, but we won't, we will get to hear it 2 years straight I'm sure. :wild:
 
euro-Texan said:
Did anyone just see that? didn't even pick my head up unl after segment was over. Thankfully the DVR caught it. Eric picked the Texans as is surprise wild card team and they showed mario highlights.
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Great example of how moronic ESPN talking heads are. Not only is that pure specualtion, but it's speculations that's not even founded in common sense. Why on earth would the Texans have interest in Favre?
 
dalemurphy said:
Great example of how moronic ESPN talking heads are. Not only is that pure specualtion, but it's speculations that's not even founded in common sense. Why on earth would the Texans have interest in Favre?
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Because it's obvious the Texans have a QB controversy :rolleyes:
 
wth?

Wasn't the media hugging Schaub's nuts last year when we traded for him? Then weren't they all over(in a good way) Sage after he went 4-1 as starter?

why the heck do they think we need Farve? stupid...
 
Ive heard it several times , on ESPN, on our local sports talk here in the ATX, and I keep scratching my head wondering why they say we are interested.
Maybe for trade bait but thats not our style. I think it will be a cold day in Htown when Favre comes to town.
 
dalemurphy said:
Great example of how moronic ESPN talking heads are. Not only is that pure specualtion, but it's speculations that's not even founded in common sense. Why on earth would the Texans have interest in Favre?
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They also had this really stupid piece where Drew Rosehaus role played as Favre's agent and Floyd Reese was the Packers GM and they were "talking" to one another to resolve the issue. It was so freaking stupid I wanted to shove my sons light saber into my ears. Dang, stop tryign to entertain and go back to informing. I really wish I could get the NFL network.
 
I think Professor Plum did it in the study with the candle stick!

Oh Lord - this is worse than Hoffa.
 
ESPN ........... what a bunch of weirdos . I rarely ever watch anything NFL related on ESPN, I'll take NFL Network any day of the week .

If Farve ends up anywhere it might be in Tampa Bay .
 
GP said:
I brought up what gary said to make a point: Why isn't anybody replying to gary and saying "No, you have to name the QB for their to be unity..."?

This is not un-related. It's a way of me showing people that the "Name Your QB And By Golly He's The Anointed One" argument is not a good one.

Am I wrong when I say "If Brett Favre came here, Schaub would be old news and everybody would want Brett to be the starter"? I just gotta' know. Because the argument in the Sage-Schaub thread, in favor of Schaub as starter, is that you gotta' name your QB and let him be the guy. That was probably one of THE biggest pro-Schaub points that was made by multiple people. It's intent is to shut down the whole conversation before it even gets started.

So I just wondered why nobody took the time to reply to what gary said, by in essence saying "Well, just like here in Houston...you gotta' name your starter for the health of the locker room..."

No, if Brett were here tomorrow...there'd be 1,000 posts on the Brett Is A Texan! thread and they'd all be drooling over getting the champ the ball. He carries that sort of weight. Well, what happened to Schaub being named the starter and getting the ball? Schaub be expected to move over.

But neither Schaub, nor Sage, carry that sort of weight. Yet we can't even discuss, on this board, the possibility of there being a QB competition between them. The minute someone mentions it, all hell breaks loose and all those in favor of having a wide-open competition at QB are branded as traitors, dummies, and Schaub haters. The end.

Just wondered why nobody gave the standard pat answer to gary's post.
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The Bears don't know who their QB will be this season so there you go.
 
gary said:
The Bears don't know who their QB will be this season so there you go.
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After one year of Schaub getting hurt on multiple occasions and then basically inactive for the rest of the season due to the severity of the injury...I'd say that we're not much better than the Bears' QB situation right now. We're probably a small notch above them, mostly because our two QBs seem to be able to piece together some sort of consistently good performance. You're right, though: Bears QB situation is terrible.

Schaub is one hit away from being back on the bench for an extended amount of time (again) and Sage will come in and, like I said before, this whole conversation and its many many pages of posts will be happening again.

I don't "wish" an injury onto Schaub, nor would I like to see one occur. I just don't think the guy is durable enough for today's NFL. And as big and fast as defenses are getting these days...I don't know who is.
 
GP said:
After one year of Schaub getting hurt on multiple occasions and then basically inactive for the rest of the season due to the severity of the injury...I'd say that we're not much better than the Bears' QB situation right now. We're probably a small notch above them, mostly because our two QBs seem to be able to piece together some sort of consistently good performance. You're right, though: Bears QB situation is terrible.

Schaub is one hit away from being back on the bench for an extended amount of time (again) and Sage will come in and, like I said before, this whole conversation and its many many pages of posts will be happening again.

I don't "wish" an injury onto Schaub, nor would I like to see one occur. I just don't think the guy is durable enough for today's NFL. And as big and fast as defenses are getting these days...I don't know who is.
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You said that a team must have their QB before TC.
 
gary said:
You said that a team must have their QB before TC.
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Huh?

Copy and paste what I had written. I'm online doing a training class, for work, and don't have time to pour over my posts. I don't think that's what I meant.
 
GP said:
After one year of Schaub getting hurt on multiple occasions and then basically inactive for the rest of the season due to the severity of the injury...I'd say that we're not much better than the Bears' QB situation right now. We're probably a small notch above them, mostly because our two QBs seem to be able to piece together some sort of consistently good performance. You're right, though: Bears QB situation is terrible.

Schaub is one hit away from being back on the bench for an extended amount of time (again) and Sage will come in and, like I said before, this whole conversation and its many many pages of posts will be happening again.

I don't "wish" an injury onto Schaub, nor would I like to see one occur. I just don't think the guy is durable enough for today's NFL. And as big and fast as defenses are getting these days...I don't know who is.
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You find Irony in that this is said in a thread talking about a guy who hasn't missed a start due to injury in 17 years at the helm.
 
GP said:
Huh?

Copy and paste what I had written. I'm online doing a training class, for work, and don't have time to pour over my posts. I don't think that's what I meant.
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When I said to let them battle for the starting job in TC.
 
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