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ESPN suspends Bill Simmons:comments about Goodell

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ESPN has suspended Bill Simmons for three weeks after he repeatedly called NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell a liar during a profane tirade on a podcast.

ESPN announced the suspension Wednesday.

"Every employee must be accountable to ESPN and those engaged in our editorial operations must also operate within ESPN's journalistic standards," ESPN said in a statement. "Bill Simmons did not meet those obligations in a recent podcast, and as a result we have suspended him for three weeks."

Simmons' podcast was released Tuesday. He said he thought Goodell lied about not knowing what was on a security video that showed former Ravens running back Ray Rice hitting his wife in an elevator.

Simmons is the editor of the sports web site "Grantland," which is owned by ESPN. He also appears on ESPN's NBA studio shows.
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http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...odell-rant/?intcmp=obmod_ffo&intcmp=obnetwork

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In other words, many people watch ESPN because of the NFL and they have to walk a fine line between journalism and not upsetting the machine (the NFL) that feeds them.
 
Hookem Horns said:
In other words, many people watch ESPN because of the NFL and they have to walk a fine line between journalism and not upsetting the machine (the NFL) that feeds them.
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Yep. They hire journalists for their opinions so long as their opinions are acceptable to the cash cow.

This little piece of nonsense was a favorite of mine.......
.......must also operate within ESPN's journalistic standards,"
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ESPN's journalistic standards? Am I missing something?
 
As an employer you don't tolerate an employee preemptively telling you to f'k off. I don't care what the subject matter was.
 
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infantrycak said:
As an employer you don't tolerate an employee preemptively telling you to f'k off. I don't care what the subject matter was.
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I disagree. I had an employee tell me that very thing after I outlined what I expected of him that day and I didn't fire him. God rest his soul. :shades:
 
Dread-Head said:
Godell is a POS and I'll be happy to see him go. Bring in Condi Rice as the next commissioner.
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Do you honestly believe that Rice would be willing to be the 32 owners' lap dog?

Because that is what is required of the NFL commish. This position is not paid to think independently of its 32 bosses.

Believing otherwise is simply naive idealism.
 
Hookem Horns said:
In other words, many people watch ESPN because of the NFL and they have to walk a fine line between journalism and not upsetting the machine (the NFL) that feeds them.
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Where have we seen that before?

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:rolleyes:

That was a damn good show too.
 
I can't believe so many people thinks Simmons suspension was about his comments about the NFL. It's NOT. This is a about an employee provoking and undermining his employer on a public stage. You don't openly say things like "I dare you," to your boss and not get reprimanded in any fashion. If he would've said that in a closed door then maybe the bosses will let that slide, maybe. But not in such public fashion.

Now that I thought about it some more, Simmons is damn lucky he didn't get fire. He took preemptive strike against his own company. I would've axed him and called a meeting to announce to everyone whoever wants to provoke our company in anyway, you come see us and we discuss what's on your mind behind closed door.
 
Showtime100 said:
I disagree. I had an employee tell me that very thing after I outlined what I expected of him that day and I didn't fire him. God rest his soul. :shades:
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What if this happened during a company party. He stopped the music and went to grab the mic and announced his opinion of you and daring you to fire him? Would that make a difference?
 
What Bill Simmons Showed About ESPN
Would a political reporter be suspended by his news organization for calling the President a liar? It’s practically in the job description. Bill Simmons, of Grantland and other ESPN enterprises, called Roger Goodell, the N.F.L. commissioner, a liar in a podcast and challenged his bosses to tell him he couldn’t say so. For that, Simmons has been suspended for three weeks...

Simmons’s anger is absolutely earned. Goodell’s denial is absurd; as I’ve written before, what did he think it looked like when a football player knocked a woman unconscious?... At some point, ESPN’s commentators should also get to call one of the more powerful men in their industry a liar.

ESPN has a financial relationship with the N.F.L.—Monday Night Football, to start with, for which it pays $1.9 billion a year in a contract, worth $15.2 billion in all, that runs through 2021—but it also, one would think, has an interest in its own journalistic identity. That, ultimately, has to be a more essential asset than the integrity of its game-broadcasting contracts; it’s what it has to barter. Without some assurance that they are getting fair, critical coverage, viewers might as well be watching the N.F.L. Network, or nothing at all. ESPN makes football seem real. And yet...

There are... rules, or guidelines, about not saying bad words about one’s ESPN colleagues or managers... But the N.F.L., as one hopes ESPN remembers, is not Simmons’s boss.
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Double Barrel said:
Do you honestly believe that Rice would be willing to be the 32 owners' lap dog?

Because that is what is required of the NFL commish. This position is not paid to think independently of its 32 bosses.

Believing otherwise is simply naive idealism.
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She said she wanted the job...
 
Playoffs said:
What Bill Simmons Showed About ESPN
ESPN has a financial relationship with the N.F.L.—Monday Night Football, to start with, for which it pays $1.9 billion a year in a contract, worth $15.2 billion in all, that runs through 2021—but it also, one would think, has an interest in its own journalistic identity.
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First... all we know is that ESPN fired Simmons for not upholding to their journalistic standards. Is that saying they demand a shred of proof before he goes & slanders someone... or is it libel?

Anyway. If ESPN has a contract with the NFL that runs through 2021, can the NFL just yank that contract? I wouldn't think so.

Lastly... other than Monday Night Football, I don't watch ESPN.
 
thunderkyss said:
First... all we know is that ESPN fired Simmons for not upholding to their journalistic standards. Is that saying they demand a shred of proof before he goes & slanders someone... or is it libel?

Anyway. If ESPN has a contract with the NFL that runs through 2021, can the NFL just yank that contract? I wouldn't think so.

Lastly... other than Monday Night Football, I don't watch ESPN.
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Given what the AP has already made public, Goodell is either a liar or a complete incompetent.
 
update: Simmons now says he is glad he did not double dog dare his employer. Cannot provide link as I just made it up.
 
I don't think that ESPN suspended him just for criticizing Goodell. Keith Olbermann has been railing on Goodell for weeks and they haven't canned him yet.
 
klockWork said:
What if this happened during a company party. He stopped the music and went to grab the mic and announced his opinion of you and daring you to fire him? Would that make a difference?
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It was a joke. See "God rest his soul" and accompanying emoticon.
 
Dan B. said:
I don't think that ESPN suspended him just for criticizing Goodell. Keith Olbermann has been railing on Goodell for weeks and they haven't canned him yet.
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Which is another question I had... the language he used on that particular podcast, is that common? Have they accepted that in the past?
 
RazorOye said:
I have not.

I value your opinion, though - I take it that you found it worth reading? If so, I might put it on the list for my summer titles. I'm always looking for more.
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I think Stephen Hunter's books are good even if you are not part of shooting culture. If you are, they are that much better. If you aren't, they give you a glimpse inside.
 
Showtime100 said:
Yep. They hire journalists for their opinions so long as their opinions are acceptable to the cash cow.

This little piece of nonsense was a favorite of mine.......


ESPN's journalistic standards? Am I missing something?
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It was a joke, wasn't it? That's the way I took it.
 
Dread-Head said:
She said she wanted the job...
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I know she wants it, but that does not change my question to you.

Do you think that Rice would be willing to be the owners' lap dog? Because that is obviously a requirement at this point, which is something that was not all that evident when Rice made that statement.

Of course, she was already a lap dog for a president, so it might not be that fart fetched. It would certainly make the NFL look good to have her as their attack dog.
 
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