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Eric Winston released?????

Surprise move for sure, but not shocking. Winston's a good right tackle but he was going to make too much money. What concerns me though that this system demands that your o-line work as a unit. They all have to be on the same page and they all have to know their roles. Inserting a new guy may disrupt that "flow" so I think the Texans have to careful about who they plug in. People will say Schaub should be concerned with this move, but if I'm Arian Foster I'm worried too about who's going to get downfield and make the block on the second level. At this point I think they'll promote someone already with the team to RT simply because that player should be familiar with the scheme. I don't see us drafting a RT high, but won't be surprised if we go after another veteran player like we did with Wade Smith a couple of years ago.
 
Surprise move for sure, but not shocking. Winston's a good right tackle but he was going to make too much money. What concerns me though that this system demands that your o-line work as a unit. They all have to be on the same page and they all have to know their roles. Inserting a new guy may disrupt that "flow" so I think the Texans have to careful about who they plug in. People will say Schaub should be concerned with this move, but if I'm Arian Foster I'm worried too about who's going to get downfield and make the block on the second level. At this point I think they'll promote someone already with the team to RT simply because that player should be familiar with the scheme. I don't see us drafting a RT high, but won't be surprised if we go after another veteran player like we did with Wade Smith a couple of years ago.

Well if take that line of thinking - good player but not worth what he is about to be paid - to it's next step, can DeMeco be very far behind??
 
So we release Winston who was a solid starter for us... why haven't we released Jacoby yet?

How much are you hated when you draw heat after a player that doesnt even play at your position gets the boot?

I almost feel sorry for Jones then I remember that he has a big bag of money he can cry into every night.
 
Well if take that line of thinking - good player but not worth what he is about to be paid - to it's next step, can DeMeco be very far behind??

Certainly not, if we're going strictly by the money. And that would include Jacoby Jones too. If they don't release Jacoby it could also indicate that WR is not going to be a high priority in the draft.
 
Well if take that line of thinking - good player but not worth what he is about to be paid - to it's next step, can DeMeco be very far behind??

I wouldn't go near that road yet. DeMeco started coming back to form later in the season. Let's see how the defensive captain plays this upcoming season when he is at least near completely recovered. He is just too smart and tough of a player to go down without a fight.
 
Well if take that line of thinking - good player but not worth what he is about to be paid - to it's next step, can DeMeco be very far behind??

Meco stepped up his game in the last half of the season and the dude was thumping. It would be great if we could keep him. I just don't know if the money is available to get it done.
 
Well if take that line of thinking - good player but not worth what he is about to be paid - to it's next step, can DeMeco be very far behind??


I would actually be okay with that. Much more so than this. Winston hasn't missed a game in 5 years.
 
Who thinks Dreesen is next? I thought he'd for sure be the first big name to drop (outside of Mario)...

He's a TE so he's safe. ;)

Winston was a mauler in the run game but his pass pro could be suspect at times, maybe there is an upgrade coming? Gotta lock down Myers and Briesel for sure now.
 
Winston gave up 7.5 sacks this year (33 total sacks).
He gave up 9 sacks last year (32 total).

And this is worth $5.5m each of the next 2 seasons...why?
 
I don't want a rookie tackle starting on a team with Superbowl aspirations.

I could've stomached cutting Demeco before this.

He was far more overpaid than Winston. Plus his backup, Sharpton, had looked decent. Meanwhile, we have no replacement for EW.

Edit: NVM, I forgot that Butler was on IR, I thought he was released.

I feel slightly better about this now.
 
No worries, peeps. Rashad Butler has great feet and an unbelievable wingspan who can play both sides of the line. When Duane Brown was out Butler got progressively better on such short notice. With a full off season Butler will be just fine. He knows the offensive line inside and out.

The only way you worry now is if the Texans don't work the deals with Meyers and Brisel.
 
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Texans saved $4.5 million in salary cap space by releasing Eric Winston. They've restructured Andre Johnson to free up more dollars.
 
its mainly surprising because there are many more obvious candidates to save the cap room with. rashad can step in but if he gets injured again......
 
So, who do we make cap space for? I thought we should`ve been able to sign Myers and Briesel without any more major cuts (after AJ restructured his contract - perhaps 1 or 2 more moves like this, but we should have at least a little money) - is this our final push for Mario? Or are we actually eying some FA that didn`t play for the Texans last season?

I am kinda shocked about Winston - yeah he was overrated and overpayed, but he was an integral part of the best O-Line in Texans history. Now we`ll have to mix it up some and that will be... interesting. Butler might be able to step in but we probably need to draft an OT now in round 2-4. So this move means: more money more problems...

The real question is: why isn`t Jacoby cut yet. He is overpayed worse than Winston was and plays a position we are most definetly try to upgrade this offseason - all the while we still have AJ, KW and some young guys. We can`t play all our WRs and Jacoby with his big contract should be the logical choice out.
 
Winston blew pass blocks every game, like some are saying in this thread, and his only great strength was run blocking. Leinart got drilled into the Jax turf because Winston's man flew by Winston almost untouched...Caveman got a paw on him, but it was like slapping at the guy as he went by him. I remember it vividly as CBS replayed the play Leinart was injured on.

And you know what? He WAS too concerned about his broadcasting career. Who broke the news of him being cut? He did. He couldn't even wait until it was officially released, and it looks like he's playing a victim card even if he didn't intend to. Other players might be getting cut, too, but their agent might be instructing them to not say anything until it's official or the time comes to do so. In short: Staying classy in the midst of tough times.

Winston will land somewhere. He'll have a new radio gig. He'll be fine.
 
wow. read the title thought it was some joke but.....wow


if this means keeping mario I'm all for it.

sad for EW though, he was an elite run blocker, not the best pass-blocker but overall easily a top 5 RT his going to be hard to replace but Butler played well in Browns absence so I'm not to scared atm
 
Sports Radio 610 covering this as if Iraq was being bombed during the Shock and Awe campaign. Lol. They're all exasperated and out of breath.
 
I liked Winston and can't believe they released him. Our OL was one of big strengths and I just don't know if whoever replaces him will be as knowledgeable about our scheme early in the season.
 
Winston blew pass blocks every game, like some are saying in this thread, and his only great strength was run blocking. Leinart got drilled into the Jax turf because Winston's man flew by Winston almost untouched...Caveman got a paw on him, but it was like slapping at the guy as he went by him. I remember it vividly as CBS replayed the play Leinart was injured on.

And you know what? He WAS too concerned about his broadcasting career. Who broke the news of him being cut? He did. He couldn't even wait until it was officially released, and it looks like he's playing a victim card even if he didn't intend to. Other players might be getting cut, too, but their agent might be instructing them to not say anything until it's official or the time comes to do so. In short: Staying classy in the midst of tough times.

Winston will land somewhere. He'll have a new radio gig. He'll be fine.
Wow, this is funny cus this is my exact same opinion of him.

Still though to cut your starting RT, a RT that was part of the best OLine in the league..............It's just crazy.

OMG, what if Studdard takes his spot? (yes I know he is a guard, that's the point)
 
LZ on twitter says bad move if looking to resign Mario. Need to sign other olinemen. Mario is thought to be headed to Bears.

Maybe Winston wouldn't take cut.....or he wanted to do more than 300 interviews a year and wouldn't give up being Peter Kings inside source ....:)
 
Winston blew pass blocks every game, like some are saying in this thread, and his only great strength was run blocking. Leinart got drilled into the Jax turf because Winston's man flew by Winston almost untouched...Caveman got a paw on him, but it was like slapping at the guy as he went by him. I remember it vividly as CBS replayed the play Leinart was injured on.


it was duane who whiffed mr 'vivid memory'? :rolleyes:
 
friend of mine says the Bears have cash and are pursuing hard for Mario
all I could tell him is that the Texans don't have the cash with all the pending FA coming in the next year
 
OL depth is a concern now, but other posters are right, this is the price of success.

I am just genuinely disappointed for Winston because he was really a team guy and very much wanted to be a part of the Texans' playoff success (at least he got one win).

Sign Myers and Briesel, cut Jacoby and Leinart (replace them with Delhomme and somebody who can return kicks like Eddie Royal or Dante Stallworth)... and if you can't resign Mario, make sure you get Dressen, Ward, and Allen back on the roster. They all earned their spots and give us quality depth.
 
Family, Rick Smith ain't playing!

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That picture that says RESPECT MY GANGSTA is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time.

Maybe he refused to restructure, I don't have any clue to why they would do this unless A. Rick Smith is going to whip a hell of a back up plan out of his ass that none of us have figured out as of yet B. We are really, really between the salary cap and a hard spot or C. It was Winston or Mario, no other alternative.

Now I will continue to look at that jewel of a picture w/ caption. Life is too short to pass up a good laugh, thanks Shark316.
 
I would like to hear that, but that would mean Josh Innes' voice infecting my ears.

Barry Warner is the one leading the coverage, who is almost just as bad. He failed to realize Rashad Butler was still on the team and that Derek Newton was the replacement up until about 5 minutes ago.
 
Apparently the Texans feel that Rashad can play about as well as Winston while being a much better value. But still very surprising to say the least ?
 
Winston gave up 7.5 sacks this year (33 total sacks).
He gave up 9 sacks last year (32 total).

And this is worth $5.5m each of the next 2 seasons...why?
Yep

Whether or not its Butler or someone else, you have to thinkk Smithiak has a plan.

Also, a lot of people want the Texans to be more like Pittsburgh (myself included). Well the Steelers cut veteran players whose salaries are bigger than thier production all the time. So far this year the Steelers have released Hines Ward, Aaron Smith, James Farrier and Chris Kemoeatu.

I'm just happy we've finally gotten to a place were we can cut good players like Winston and have Butler step into his spot.

Good luck Caveman!
 
Winston was very overrated. He seemed to care about his future in broadcasting more than improving his game. In addition to almost getting Schaub killed a couple of games.
I agree that Winston was overrated and probably overpaid. But Butler is very overrated around here. He almost got Schaub killed when subbing for Brown at LT. But, it should be an easier go for Butler at RT. All things equal, I'd rather have Winston. But they aren't equal, because Butler is paid less than half of Winston's salary.
John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL
Texans saved $4.5 million in salary cap space by releasing Eric Winston. They've restructured Andre Johnson to free up more dollars.
About a week late on that one, General.
 
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