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Wow.

I didnt see this thread when Andrea Yates drowned her 5 kids.

I didnt see this thread when the dentist got ran over repeatedly for cheating.

I didnt see this thread when Houston was labeled the fattest city in the US.

This thread title didn't come up until we drafted Mario Williams.

Amazing.
 
BulldogMike said:
I just want to say that Houston has been needing help on both sides of the ball and I think you win either way you go whether Bush or Williams, but it looks like they wanted to focus on the defense first. I don't think it is a bad move because they obviously did a lot of research and interviewing to come to their decision. I watched Reggie a lot this last year and while he was a great player, I thought he had an attitude problem that if unchecked could grow to what TO has and that would not be good for the Texans at all! You guys got a couple of o-lineman that look pretty good and could possibly end up starting right away.

I know you guys have had a lot of disapointment, I have been following the Texans because I am a Fresno State fan and I also know that many of you wanted Carr gone, but I don't think that is the answer. Just have some trust in Kudiak because he is addressing needs and knows that this is a team sport not a one man show. You guys have a lot of fans here in Cali and we are hoping you guys will turn it around. I think Houston will be in the playoffs in 2 years, but hopefully this year. It all depends on how these draftees pan out.

Lastly, it could have been worse, you could have Marcus Vick! :redtowel:
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I agree Carr is a BEAST!
 
JackDizzle said:
Wow.

I didnt see this thread when Andrea Yates drowned her 5 kids.

I didnt see this thread when the dentist got ran over repeatedly for cheating.

I didnt see this thread when Houston was labeled the fattest city in the US.

This thread title didn't come up until we drafted Mario Williams.

Amazing.
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Priority issues, amybe?
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Right, an internet messenger board is a much better source than talk radio to find some educated people....
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At least here everyone has the chance to express THEIR opinion. If you wanted to talk to the afternoon show on 610 you had to cater to Rich Lord's man-crush on VY or they wouldn't put you on air.

You are entitled to your opinion just as anyone. When the Texans start stopping other teams from scoring (the real way to win games) you'll be back to rooting for the team. Bush would be exciting. He would put people in the seats. I think getting a new coach, a new system, an attacking defense, and a new start will put people in the seats.

A superstar will sell a lot of tickets. A winning team will sell all of the tickets.
 
To me, taking a workout warrior over a proven once in a decade type player is about as stupid as it gets. As usual, the spin docters and kool-aid drinkers are out in full force defending every move they make, no matter how incomentent. And make no mistake, this was an incompetent move that has a high risk of haunting this franchise for the next decade. Williams better be the next Reggie White. Good isn't good enough. He must be GREAT, a force and true defensive game changer on every play or Mcnair and this franchise will never live this down. Taking the surest thing since Jessica Simspon failing a history test for a "may be great, may suck" pick simply based on half a year and a great combine is undefensible in my view. Two guys in this draft has the "it" factor, and we passed on both. This was the easiest choice in the last dozen years. Morons. Go ahead, drink some more koolaid.

There, now that I have that out of my system, for a change, CC didn't blow the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I am very pleased with those three picks. Which tells me CC probably didn't make them, Kubes did. IF, and I say IF in the biggest way - Mario Williams is a beast, this will be a great draft. But, that's the whole point. Williams is a huge risk with great upside, but bust potential as well. Bush will not bust. Period. If Williams fails, or is even Just plain ole "Good", no matter how good the other players are in this draft are, this team will be haunted by this decision for a very long time. I better see a combination of Bruce Smith, and Reggie White or I and thousands of others will never let this team forget it.
 
JackDizzle said:
Wow.

I didnt see this thread when Andrea Yates drowned her 5 kids.

I didnt see this thread when the dentist got ran over repeatedly for cheating.

I didnt see this thread when Houston was labeled the fattest city in the US.

This thread title didn't come up until we drafted Mario Williams.

Amazing.
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Pure Genius.
 
I don't care about not getting Bush. I think he'll have troubles that this team doesn't need right now. And he may indeed have held out for money and all that.

I kind of would have liked to see us get one of the top 3 QB's. If for no other reason than to give a kick to our pretty boy. Maybe then he'd try to get rid of the ball more instead of making sure his hair is parted just right.

Did we improve our O line in this draft? I couldn't listen to the whole thing.
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Without a doubt, the Texans made the dumbest move in the history of a draft in any sport. This organization has proven time and time again that it is completely incapable of making intelligent decisions. This was a no-brainer move to draft Reggie.

We keep hearing about how this is a business. Name another business that would spit in the faces of their own customers the way the Texans have done?????? They have infuriated their OWN FAN BASE and have alienated themselves at the same time."

Hey, with all the sleeze surrounding now surrounding Bush.. do you still feel it was a dumb move not to draft him?

Only an idiot would give Bush $30 million guaranteed with all the skeletons in his closet.

Bob McNair isn't an idiot...
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Remember this post. This is the first time i agree with Bobo. I wanted Bush so bad I could taste it,however i have had 24 hours to think about it. The way I see it last year we had 3-4 games won and could not stop the other teams offense. Well I think thru FA and the first day of the draft we have addressed the way to stop some of those offenses. Along with 2 good OL I like what we are doing here. Now we need to get DRob some help in RD4, in Bing ,Simpson,
or Watkins. Sure we won't be on the highlights every week but maybe now we can be competetive to the point we win some games.:drool:
 
Porky said:
To me, taking a workout warrior over a proven once in a decade type player is about as stupid as it gets. As usual, the spin docters and kool-aid drinkers are out in full force defending every move they make, no matter how incomentent. And make no mistake, this was an incompetent move that has a high risk of haunting this franchise for the next decade. Williams better be the next Reggie White. Good isn't good enough. He must be GREAT, a force and true defensive game changer on every play or Mcnair and this franchise will never live this down. Taking the surest thing since Jessica Simspon failing a history test for a "may be great, may suck" pick simply based on half a year and a great combine is undefensible in my view. Two guys in this draft has the "it" factor, and we passed on both. This was the easiest choice in the last dozen years. Morons. Go ahead, drink some more koolaid.

There, now that I have that out of my system, for a change, CC didn't blow the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I am very pleased with those three picks. Which tells me CC probably didn't make them, Kubes did. IF, and I say IF in the biggest way - Mario Williams is a beast, this will be a great draft. But, that's the whole point. Williams is a huge risk with great upside, but bust potential as well. Bush will not bust. Period. If Williams fails, or is even Just plain ole "Good", no matter how good the other players are in this draft are, this team will be haunted by this decision for a very long time. I better see a combination of Bruce Smith, and Reggie White or I and thousands of others will never let this team forget it.
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What if they took Bush and he became Blair Thomas or Ki Jana Carter? No matter who you take there is risk. The same people who booed the Williams selection would be booing the team if Bush didn't pan out.
 
X_Texan_fan said:
How in the world can you honestly say that Williams will improve this team more than Reggie????????? I have yet to hear 1 person in the media or a single fan on the talk radio say that this was a smart move.
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Spoken like a complete moron. Its called an opinion, look that word up. Does the media dictate who the Texans draft? No. Do the fans dictate who the Texans draft? No.
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Without a doubt, the Texans made the dumbest move in the history of a draft in any sport. This organization has proven time and time again that it is completely incapable of making intelligent decisions. This was a no-brainer move to draft Reggie.

We keep hearing about how this is a business. Name another business that would spit in the faces of their own customers the way the Texans have done?????? They have infuriated their OWN FAN BASE and have alienated themselves at the same time.

I wonder how many people are flocking to Academy right about now to purchase their Mario Williams' jerseys and other Texan merchandise? The fans HAD something to get excited about this offseason in Bush and now what do we have?????? I am sure people will be waiting to pay hard earned dollars on tickets to see Williams line up and rush the passer.

Get used to fans with paper bags over their heads, lost merchandise revenue, blackouts on tv, etc because that is what they are going to get. The Texans franchise is circeling the drain!!
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Folks I am going to step out and probably offend some of you. I don't mean it personally. IF you (this goes for anyone) honestly think that bringing in someone that could bolster a bottom of the barrel defense is a bum head move, then please shut the ***k up. Our team has done exactly what we asked. Bring in some high impact players that will make the most difference. I may not agree with all the moves that they do. But I like probably 99% of you don't have the qualifications to do the job. We as a fan have a job to support our team. We all have our own ways of doing this. I look at it this way:

1. Our coaching staff is well respected.
2. Our number 1 pick was used on a top player. offense or defense it
don't matter. We didn't trade it off for someone with a bad shoulder or
bum leg.
3. One man doesn't make or break a team.

So with all of this said if you still need to gripe about it then do so somewhere else. If you still don't understand, well let it be suffice to say I think that you should think about when you became an expert!!!!!
 
hedgehog0721 said:
Charley Casserly is a moron. Passes Reggie Bush and does not move down in the draft and still pick Luigi Williams. I hope Reggie is the next Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton or Emmitt Smith to say I told you so. You need to be on the next train out of town, idiot! :crying: :crying: :club:
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i dont evn think bush wants ta play fo the saints when he got picked by the saints he looked all sad n stuff
 
Goodbye to all you bandwagon fans! GO TEXANS!!!-

i don't think theres such a thing as a bandwagon for a team thats 2-14
 
jmlockett said:
Folks I am going to step out and probably offend some of you. I don't mean it personally. IF you (this goes for anyone) honestly think that bringing in someone that could bolster a bottom of the barrel defense is a bum head move, then please shut the ***k up. Our team has done exactly what we asked. Bring in some high impact players that will make the most difference. I may not agree with all the moves that they do. But I like probably 99% of you don't have the qualifications to do the job. We as a fan have a job to support our team. We all have our own ways of doing this. I look at it this way:

1. Our coaching staff is well respected.
2. Our number 1 pick was used on a top player. offense or defense it
don't matter. We didn't trade it off for someone with a bad shoulder or
bum leg.
3. One man doesn't make or break a team.

So with all of this said if you still need to gripe about it then do so somewhere else. If you still don't understand, well let it be suffice to say I think that you should think about when you became an expert!!!!!
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Let's not forget why the NFL is here in the first place...it's b/c of the fans...without us, its nothing... The coaching and management staff should have an obligation to listen to the fanbase... and we spoke!! Coming from the Texans fanbase before the draft...the majority of us (the Texans fanbase) favored Reggie Bush, Vince Young, and arguably D'brick Ferguson over this guy... I jsut dont see how they could completely ignore all of these signs pointing towards Reggie. It seems crystal clear that he would have benifitted this team the most...

and I refuse to blindly agree with the staff's decision just because they "have the qualifications to do the job"... Texan's fans have every right to be upset with this...we voiced what we wanted and they completely ignored us... If Mario doesnt turn out to be great, I seriously think the Texans fanbase has suffered an injustice...
 
Porky said:
To me, taking a workout warrior over a proven once in a decade type player is about as stupid as it gets. As usual, the spin docters and kool-aid drinkers are out in full force defending every move they make, no matter how incomentent. And make no mistake, this was an incompetent move that has a high risk of haunting this franchise for the next decade. Williams better be the next Reggie White. Good isn't good enough. He must be GREAT, a force and true defensive game changer on every play or Mcnair and this franchise will never live this down. Taking the surest thing since Jessica Simspon failing a history test for a "may be great, may suck" pick simply based on half a year and a great combine is undefensible in my view. Two guys in this draft has the "it" factor, and we passed on both. This was the easiest choice in the last dozen years. Morons. Go ahead, drink some more koolaid.

There, now that I have that out of my system, for a change, CC didn't blow the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I am very pleased with those three picks. Which tells me CC probably didn't make them, Kubes did. IF, and I say IF in the biggest way - Mario Williams is a beast, this will be a great draft. But, that's the whole point. Williams is a huge risk with great upside, but bust potential as well. Bush will not bust. Period. If Williams fails, or is even Just plain ole "Good", no matter how good the other players are in this draft are, this team will be haunted by this decision for a very long time. I better see a combination of Bruce Smith, and Reggie White or I and thousands of others will never let this team forget it.
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well with that said and the standards that you've set for Mario , I'd like to see the standards you set for Bush. Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders,Jim Brown? are those who he needs to pass? I'd hate for him to be the next Marshall Faulk because that just wouldn't be good enough.

for the record,I was suprised that we picked Williams over Bush.

For more Bang for the buck. I will predict Bush will be to DD as Carlos Beltran was to Willie T.

Both should be productive, but not guaranteed 30 million more productive.:stirpot:
 
X_Texan_fan said:
How in the world can you honestly say that Williams will improve this team more than Reggie????????? I have yet to hear 1 person in the media or a single fan on the talk radio say that this was a smart move.
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And you think this team lives & dies on the opinion of the fans, media?
 
bush is a punk...a attitude problem waiting to happen..i was never totally sold on bush because i figured why when our defense sucked so bad....and DD is gonna be more than a capable back in kubiaks new system..honestly and this is just my opinion...the fans that are crying didnt want a team to win....they just wanted a team to look good....indy looks good...kc looks good...hell even minnesota looked good on the offense for a couple of years. but were they playing for the super bowl like the panthers..patriots...steelers..nooo...so quit yappin...go buy ur vy titans jersey..(i refuse to b/c i hate bud adams that much and refuse to pay him any more money)..and let me get my damn season tickets finally..one last note..how many remember..buffalo...up 35 -3..then we had no defense and lost...enough said
 
hedgehog0721 said:
Charley Casserly is a moron. Passes Reggie Bush and does not move down in the draft and still pick Luigi Williams. I hope Reggie is the next Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton or Emmitt Smith to say I told you so. You need to be on the next train out of town, idiot! :crying: :crying: :club:
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The only one of those players to win a Superbowl was Emmitt (3) and Emmitt was the only one with a TEAM around him. I would rather win SuperBowls then have a Hall of Fame player, or Pro Bowlers.
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Without a doubt, the Texans made the dumbest move in the history of a draft in any sport. This organization has proven time and time again that it is completely incapable of making intelligent decisions. This was a no-brainer move to draft Reggie.

We keep hearing about how this is a business. Name another business that would spit in the faces of their own customers the way the Texans have done?????? They have infuriated their OWN FAN BASE and have alienated themselves at the same time.

I wonder how many people are flocking to Academy right about now to purchase their Mario Williams' jerseys and other Texan merchandise? The fans HAD something to get excited about this offseason in Bush and now what do we have?????? I am sure people will be waiting to pay hard earned dollars on tickets to see Williams line up and rush the passer.

Get used to fans with paper bags over their heads, lost merchandise revenue, blackouts on tv, etc because that is what they are going to get. The Texans franchise is circeling the drain!!
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and when Mario starts levelling QB's and the team start winning games then I reckon we'll sell loads of stuff
 
arciem said:
Let's not forget why the NFL is here in the first place...it's b/c of the fans...without us, its nothing... The coaching and management staff should have an obligation to listen to the fanbase... and we spoke!! Coming from the Texans fanbase before the draft...the majority of us (the Texans fanbase) favored Reggie Bush, Vince Young, and arguably D'brick Ferguson over this guy... I jsut dont see how they could completely ignore all of these signs pointing towards Reggie. It seems crystal clear that he would have benifitted this team the most...

and I refuse to blindly agree with the staff's decision just because they "have the qualifications to do the job"... Texan's fans have every right to be upset with this...we voiced what we wanted and they completely ignored us... If Mario doesnt turn out to be great, I seriously think the Texans fanbase has suffered an injustice...
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The team's obligation is to put a winning team together. The Gary Kubiaks of the world are the ones that watch 15 hours of game tape a day. They don't watch it like the rest of us, with a beer in our hand, some chips on our lap. They watch a specific guy. They watch how he reacts to different plays and sets and circumstances. They see what impact he has beyond the stat line. We watch the ball. We watch the guy who makes the tackle. There is a lot more to being a great football player that isn't seen by the fan because we aren't trained to watch the game that way.

I'm happy that we have an owner that wants to put the best team on the field. This man fired a coach that he respected because he could see that the team wasn't going to turn the corner and the fans were speaking out by not attending games. He got the best coach available to come in. They've since gone out and improved our O-Line in FA (Flanagan) and in the draft (Winston, Spencer). They've improved our passing attack (Moulds, Walters, Putzier). They've improved our D-Line (Williams, Weaver, Kalu). They've improved the talent/depth in our linebacking corps (Cowart, Rainer, Ryans). He is willing to spend money to improve the team.

Does the team make mistakes? Of course. There are no guarantees in life or this game. Sometimes you buy an apple that is rotten. Sometimes it just goes bad faster than others. I'd rather them go out and do what they think is right for this team than to be afraid to make the decisions necessary to make this a winning team. Drafting Bush or Young would have appeased the casual fan. There are many true fans that wanted those players, but they will still be there watching the Texans play regardless of the players on the field. They will be rooting for the new players as if they were old friends. Those are the fans McNair and the Texans owe their obligations to if any. The fans that have never watched a game or have never been to a game but were going to come because they had Reggie Bush on the team aren't the fans the team needs.

The bottom line is you put a winning team on the field, you have done your job.
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Without a doubt, the Texans made the dumbest move in the history of a draft in any sport. This organization has proven time and time again that it is completely incapable of making intelligent decisions. This was a no-brainer move to draft Reggie.

We keep hearing about how this is a business. Name another business that would spit in the faces of their own customers the way the Texans have done?????? They have infuriated their OWN FAN BASE and have alienated themselves at the same time.

I wonder how many people are flocking to Academy right about now to purchase their Mario Williams' jerseys and other Texan merchandise? The fans HAD something to get excited about this offseason in Bush and now what do we have?????? I am sure people will be waiting to pay hard earned dollars on tickets to see Williams line up and rush the passer.

Get used to fans with paper bags over their heads, lost merchandise revenue, blackouts on tv, etc because that is what they are going to get. The Texans franchise is circeling the drain!!
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Seeeeeee yaaaaaaaaaaaa. Take a hike pal. I for one wanted to see us work on our OL and DL. We all know that we needed help on the lines. I'm very optimistic with these picks.:texflag:
 
TexanBacker93 said:
The team's obligation is to put a winning team together. The Gary Kubiaks of the world are the ones that watch 15 hours of game tape a day. They don't watch it like the rest of us, with a beer in our hand, some chips on our lap. They watch a specific guy. They watch how he reacts to different plays and sets and circumstances. They see what impact he has beyond the stat line. We watch the ball. We watch the guy who makes the tackle. There is a lot more to being a great football player that isn't seen by the fan because we aren't trained to watch the game that way.

I'm happy that we have an owner that wants to put the best team on the field. This man fired a coach that he respected because he could see that the team wasn't going to turn the corner and the fans were speaking out by not attending games. He got the best coach available to come in. They've since gone out and improved our O-Line in FA (Flanagan) and in the draft (Winston, Spencer). They've improved our passing attack (Moulds, Walters, Putzier). They've improved our D-Line (Williams, Weaver, Kalu). They've improved the talent/depth in our linebacking corps (Cowart, Rainer, Ryans). He is willing to spend money to improve the team.

Does the team make mistakes? Of course. There are no guarantees in life or this game. Sometimes you buy an apple that is rotten. Sometimes it just goes bad faster than others. I'd rather them go out and do what they think is right for this team than to be afraid to make the decisions necessary to make this a winning team. Drafting Bush or Young would have appeased the casual fan. There are many true fans that wanted those players, but they will still be there watching the Texans play regardless of the players on the field. They will be rooting for the new players as if they were old friends. Those are the fans McNair and the Texans owe their obligations to if any. The fans that have never watched a game or have never been to a game but were going to come because they had Reggie Bush on the team aren't the fans the team needs.

The bottom line is you put a winning team on the field, you have done your job.
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this is the best thing I have read in the last 24 hours
 
TexanBacker93 said:
The team's obligation is to put a winning team together. The Gary Kubiaks of the world are the ones that watch 15 hours of game tape a day. They don't watch it like the rest of us, with a beer in our hand, some chips on our lap. They watch a specific guy. They watch how he reacts to different plays and sets and circumstances. They see what impact he has beyond the stat line. We watch the ball. We watch the guy who makes the tackle. There is a lot more to being a great football player that isn't seen by the fan because we aren't trained to watch the game that way.

I'm happy that we have an owner that wants to put the best team on the field. This man fired a coach that he respected because he could see that the team wasn't going to turn the corner and the fans were speaking out by not attending games. He got the best coach available to come in. They've since gone out and improved our O-Line in FA (Flanagan) and in the draft (Winston, Spencer). They've improved our passing attack (Moulds, Walters, Putzier). They've improved our D-Line (Williams, Weaver, Kalu). They've improved the talent/depth in our linebacking corps (Cowart, Rainer, Ryans). He is willing to spend money to improve the team.

Does the team make mistakes? Of course. There are no guarantees in life or this game. Sometimes you buy an apple that is rotten. Sometimes it just goes bad faster than others. I'd rather them go out and do what they think is right for this team than to be afraid to make the decisions necessary to make this a winning team. Drafting Bush or Young would have appeased the casual fan. There are many true fans that wanted those players, but they will still be there watching the Texans play regardless of the players on the field. They will be rooting for the new players as if they were old friends. Those are the fans McNair and the Texans owe their obligations to if any. The fans that have never watched a game or have never been to a game but were going to come because they had Reggie Bush on the team aren't the fans the team needs.

The bottom line is you put a winning team on the field, you have done your job.
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:highfive: Word!
Kubiak and McNair are doing what they think is necessary to build a winning team...soon...as in this season. I think at the end of this next season, we will see that they have done their jobs and quite well.:ok:
 
People need to stop saying who can be Texans fans and who can't be one. Just because you are a Bush or Young fan and are pissed by the decision or think we are not going to do well next season doesn't mean you are not a fan anymore. You are just saying your opinion. I,for one, am now a Titans and Saints fan but that doesn't mean I am not a Texans fan. I am just not an optimistic Texan fan right now.
 
This was a football decision and for those of you who like flash and dash well this may be a great time for you to move on and find another team. The FO and staff have the team that they want, in my opinion Cass did a superlative job and in essence this is how it was suppossed to be with Cass and Capers as it were with Cass and Gibbs - football operations and coaches working and executing in concert.

I have only felt this type of buzz as a Texan fan once before and that was in our first ever game. Everyone has a right to poo poo as fans, but this was about the product on the field and that product just got a lot better because we addressed needs, athletcism, intelligence and character. It is a good day to be a Texan. :texflag:
 
Your get over it when your drafting Marshawn Lynch or Adrian Peterson in next years draft lol...


The Texans did the right thing though...I've said it once and I'll say it again. They need a core to build around and they created a pretty fine one with a 5-Star Defensive Lineman Prospect in Mario Williams and two capable starters in Eric Winston and Charles Spencer.


SO GET OVER IT TEXANS FAN AND CRY ME A RIVER "WAAAAH WE DIDNT GET OUR SAVIOR REGGIE BUSH!!!"
 
Frak The Jags said:
I am over it until I see some Reggie highlights on Sportscenter this fall.
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Yeah, that's gonna hurt every time, and that means it'll hurt a lot.

Other thoughts:

Hope Mario turns out to be all that and a bag of chips.

Don't understand passing on Winston Justice, but maybe there's a reason he fell out of the first round. I dunno.

Eric Winston is a big drop down from Justice and a risky pick. I have no idea what they were thinking.

Would've preferred a CB over Spencer but I hate to complain about an OL pick so I won't.

Overall, very disappointed in the first day of the draft, but we won't know how it grades out for a while so I'm not jumping off any rooftops.

California haters must be dancing in the streets as we passed on both Bush & Winston. Watch out for traffic.

Bud drafted VY knowing the bonus is that it's going to bother the hell out of the Texans fans and it's already working.

Nice housewarming gift we gave the Saints. Happy for them and happy for us Bush didn't wind up in Tennessee.

I'll disagree with Williams over Bush up until the time history proves me wrong.

Still love the Texans.
 
I can admit to being frustrated, because I was hoping we'd take o-line and then address defensive needs, but I'm really happy with who we stole on the o-line later on. In hindsight, a great series of moves.

I'm also glad we didn't take Bush - never wanted him to begin with - but I have to admit I was hoping we'd get a bite from New York and trade down and pick up some beefy o-linemen in the first round.

However, and I can't believe nobody is talking about this, but if, 10 years from now, we have a regret from this draft, it will be of not taking AJ Hawk with the #1 overall pick. Living in Ohio, I had plenty of opportunity to watch him, and Mario isn't even in his league ;-)
 
Kaiser Toro said:
This was a football decision and for those of you who like flash and dash well this may be a great time for you to move on and find another team. The FO and staff have the team that they want, in my opinion Cass did a superlative job and in essence this is how it was suppossed to be with Cass and Capers as it were with Cass and Gibbs - football operations and coaches working and executing in concert.

I have only felt this type of buzz as a Texan fan once before and that was in our first ever game. Everyone has a right to poo poo as fans, but this was about the product on the field and that product just got a lot better because we addressed needs, athletcism, intelligence and character. It is a good day to be a Texan. :texflag:
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Fully agreed.
 
i hope when the texans start winning next year the fans that make these stupid comments about the draft shouldn't be allowed to watch any of the games.
 
Janus3 said:
i hope when the texans start winning next year the fans that make these stupid comments about the draft shouldn't be allowed to watch any of the games.
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Doesn't really matter, wasn't able to get a Texans game out here since mid-season and don't really expect to see one until they do actually start winning. :heh:
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Without a doubt, the Texans made the dumbest move in the history of a draft in any sport. This organization has proven time and time again that it is completely incapable of making intelligent decisions. This was a no-brainer move to draft Reggie.

We keep hearing about how this is a business. Name another business that would spit in the faces of their own customers the way the Texans have done?????? They have infuriated their OWN FAN BASE and have alienated themselves at the same time.

I wonder how many people are flocking to Academy right about now to purchase their Mario Williams' jerseys and other Texan merchandise? The fans HAD something to get excited about this offseason in Bush and now what do we have?????? I am sure people will be waiting to pay hard earned dollars on tickets to see Williams line up and rush the passer.

Get used to fans with paper bags over their heads, lost merchandise revenue, blackouts on tv, etc because that is what they are going to get. The Texans franchise is circeling the drain!!
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Yes we could have made a dumb dumb move I mean after all Bush Is like a few other lesser players we all seen Like OJ , Earl Campell, E Smith T Dorrest , Marcus Allen . (sigh) But what if Williamd turns out to be a Lawrence Taylor ( :) I'm not a pro scout so ill wait and see > BUT i may be really really one mad fan After last yrs ship wreck . Course I realise we had injuries and lost a few key players But man this yr we better rock . MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Beer !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Without a doubt, the Texans made the dumbest move in the history of a draft in any sport. This organization has proven time and time again that it is completely incapable of making intelligent decisions. This was a no-brainer move to draft Reggie.

We keep hearing about how this is a business. Name another business that would spit in the faces of their own customers the way the Texans have done?????? They have infuriated their OWN FAN BASE and have alienated themselves at the same time.

I wonder how many people are flocking to Academy right about now to purchase their Mario Williams' jerseys and other Texan merchandise? The fans HAD something to get excited about this offseason in Bush and now what do we have?????? I am sure people will be waiting to pay hard earned dollars on tickets to see Williams line up and rush the passer.

Get used to fans with paper bags over their heads, lost merchandise revenue, blackouts on tv, etc because that is what they are going to get. The Texans franchise is circeling the drain!!
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I don't understand the biggest need for the Texans in THIS draft was getting a pass rusher vs. getting a RB. Remember both these players have yet to play a down in the NFL. Remember Peter Warrick back in 2000 he was suppose to be all that where is he now?Thats why they are called "PROSPECTS" Don't get caught up in the "FOOL'S GOLD" Now if you want excitement go for Bush. If you want to Win Super Bowls draft defense. What makes you think Bush is going to be better than OJ and bring home a Super Bowl? Look at Peyton Manning looks great all yr till he comes up against a great Defense in the playoffs. Spend to much money on a 1st over all pick int the draft on a RB or QB not enough money left over for the Defense. Another example is Carson Palmer #1 overall in 2003 Good QB but not enough money for the Defense. They can't stop the run. Show me a team that has won a Super Bowl with a great Offense and weak Defense? Now Tampa and Baltimore have won Super Bowls with great Defenses and weak Offenses. FACTS don't lie. Just some food for thought ;)
 
I hate this draft stock as well. I am ticked just like everyone else. BUt I am not embarassed to be a Texan fan, an dI will support my team.
 
To go to a SuperBowl YOU got to have D If any of you older fans remember the Oilers it was the D that made them great Not Earl not Pastorine but D D wins games Look at Pittsburg So stop the crying and bitching and set back and think with something other than your BUTT. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Beer :homer:
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Without a doubt, the Texans made the dumbest move in the history of a draft in any sport. This organization has proven time and time again that it is completely incapable of making intelligent decisions. This was a no-brainer move to draft Reggie.

We keep hearing about how this is a business. Name another business that would spit in the faces of their own customers the way the Texans have done?????? They have infuriated their OWN FAN BASE and have alienated themselves at the same time.

I wonder how many people are flocking to Academy right about now to purchase their Mario Williams' jerseys and other Texan merchandise? The fans HAD something to get excited about this offseason in Bush and now what do we have?????? I am sure people will be waiting to pay hard earned dollars on tickets to see Williams line up and rush the passer.

Get used to fans with paper bags over their heads, lost merchandise revenue, blackouts on tv, etc because that is what they are going to get. The Texans franchise is circeling the drain!!
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You're an embarassment to our fan base. That is, if you were ever a fan in the first place. Which I highly doubt.
 
I am more embarrassed at getting blown out in games and teams picking up 3rd and 17 on our defense (seems like time and time again) .. and of course our sack record is embarrassing (on both sides of the ball)
 
Wolf said:
Posey? from 2002 ?
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Ya, that guy. Had 8 sacks in 02 and then bailed at 12:01 am on the first day of FA. He is also the guy who hurt Carr in 03.

Amazing how no other Texan has been able to amass at least 8 sacks. Funny, looking at that stat you would think we have sucked for the last four years.:cool:
 
TEXANRED said:
Ya, that guy. Had 8 sacks in 02 and then bailed at 12:01 am on the first day of FA. He is also the guy who hurt Carr in 03.

Amazing how no other Texan has been able to amass at least 8 sacks. Funny, looking at that stat you would think we have sucked for the last four years.:cool:
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If I remember correctly, our INTIRE D-line had 8.5 sacks last year. Naturally a 3-4 doesn't look for sacks from the D-line near as much as a 4-3, but THAT's still pretty low.
 
Mario I love you man!

Don't worry about half the cracker jacks out there. They are the same guys that said we had a brilliant draft last year. WHICH was far from true. The Football fans that KNOW their Football, know you were the best option for #1.
 
X_Texan_fan said:
How in the world can you honestly say that Williams will improve this team more than Reggie????????? I have yet to hear 1 person in the media or a single fan on the talk radio say that this was a smart move.
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X_Texan_fan said:
Right, an internet messenger board is a much better source than talk radio to find some educated people....
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I'll go with Gary Kubiak saying it was a smart move. How's that for a source? In fact, I'll go ahead and trust Gary Kubiak's assessment on things football over yours, the media, talk radio, and anybody on a message board, including mine, eight days a week.
 
A couple things...

The problem I have with the pick is not with the pick itself, but that we didn't trade down or get something for giving up Bush. Enough teams in the top 3 or 4 wanted Bush bad enough that we could have gotten SOMETHING of value for by-passing on Bush.

I don't care how great Mario ever gets, There's no way LT impacts a game more than Emmitt does considering you can put the ball in Emmitt's hands every offensive play if you want.

I love the Titans 1st 2 picks. I realize the fans don't run the team, but boy, they sure could have filled some seats and still come out with VY and LenDale, and, still could have traded off Carr for someone of real value (maybe a high profile DE?) in return. I just don't think the Texans capitalized on the value that that was theirs with the #1 pick in the draft. Again, I think Mario will be a wonderful player, but not worthy of the #1 slot. By choosing him and not working out some kind of deal with NO or Tennesse to trade down, the Texans didn't get the value out of that #1 pick that was theirs.

Still a Texans fan, may not agree with what they did, but it's their right to do it.
 
X_Texan_fan said:
Without a doubt, the Texans made the dumbest move in the history of a draft in any sport. This organization has proven time and time again that it is completely incapable of making intelligent decisions. This was a no-brainer move to draft Reggie.

i thot the same thing, but later after thinkn clearly bout the decision, mario williams was the best pick 4 us - by the way when mario makes 10 to 15 sacks this season i dnt wana c u praisin him like if u were 1 of his fans from the beginnin.....

like ray lewis sed bk in 2000 "DEFENCE WINZ CHAMPIONSHIP"
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