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Draft satisfaction

What did you think of the draft?


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DanielTx

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Seeing half the panther fans wanting Cj makes me happy. I expect him to be the guy competing against Burrow and Mahomes and be a completion percentage leader year in and year out. He’s a baby mahomes. Staff will be important to his growth. Grabbing potentially the best defensive player was the icing on the cake. Fantastic draft picking 2 of the top 5 players. I like the Tank pick and Xiaver kid could be special. This could be a playoff team, waiting to see more moves
 

BattleRedBlud

Blue Steel Pose. No Excuses!
Seeing half the panther fans wanting Cj makes me happy. I expect him to be the guy competing against Burrow and Mahomes and be a completion percentage leader year in and year out. He’s a baby mahomes. Staff will be important to his growth. Grabbing potentially the best defensive player was the icing on the cake. Fantastic draft picking 2 of the top 5 players. I like the Tank pick and Xiaver kid could be special. This could be a playoff team, waiting to see more moves
I also like how the Titans wanted to trade up to 1.3 for Stroud had we went with Anderson instead. Always fun keeping people away from teams in the AFCS that wanted them.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
To me it is easy to have opinions when you face no consequences for being wrong. When your livelihood is tied to your choices everything ratchets up.

IMO people that have millions of dollars in future earnings tied to the choices they make are going to exhaust every resource they have & make what they consider the best choices they can.

No matter how much information we have or how strong our opinions are we are not putting our future on the line when we make our picks.

Real life is always different from what people on the outside think it is. Like the poster above pointed out Mike Mayock has made a living second guessing people for years but when the rubber met the road he was a complete failure.

Having said all that it does not mean that Caserio or Ryans were not wrong & are the wrong people for the job. But if they are they will eventually pay the price & be just one more failure in a profession that probably has 10 failures for every success.

I for one will at least give them the courtesy of seeing how their picks actually perform in games before I condemn them as failures.

Exactly. Which is why the “just tank and grab that unicorn next year” talk is pointless. Try telling your boss that you’re just gonna suck at your job for a year, maybe two, but when conditions are perfect you’ll perform and see how long you stay employed.

There is no sure thing in the NFL draft. You do the best you can with the information you’re given.

Aaron Curry, former Seahawks LB drafted ahead of Cushing was thought of as the cleanest prospect in the 2009 draft. Absolute bust.

Curry is now a LB coach for the Steelers and he admitted that after being drafted he basically mentally checked out because he accomplished his goal of taking care of his family financially.

Then he dealt with some injuries and did not have that innate desire to be a great player that you need to succeed in the NFL so he flamed out pretty quickly. Pretty difficult to see that lack of dog in a player in a media draft profile everyone has access to… but NFL teams try to find that out during visits and other sources.
 

santo

Hall of Fame
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Exactly. Which is why the “just tank and grab that unicorn next year” talk is pointless. Try telling your boss that you’re just gonna suck at your job for a year, maybe two, but when conditions are perfect you’ll perform and see how long you stay employed.

There is no sure thing in the NFL draft. You do the best you can with the information you’re given.

Aaron Curry, former Seahawks LB drafted ahead of Cushing was thought of as the cleanest prospect in the 2009 draft. Absolute bust.

Curry is now a LB coach for the Steelers and he admitted that after being drafted he basically mentally checked out because he accomplished his goal of taking care of his family financially.

Then he dealt with some injuries and did not have that innate desire to be a great player that you need to succeed in the NFL so he flamed out pretty quickly. Pretty difficult to see that lack of dog in a player in a media draft profile everyone has access to… but NFL teams try to find that out during visits and other sources.
And the opposite sometimes happens too. Players that were mediocre or were overlooked in college seem to elevate their game once they come into the NFL. You just never know.
 

The1ApplePie

Hall of Fame
Exactly. Which is why the “just tank and grab that unicorn next year” talk is pointless. Try telling your boss that you’re just gonna suck at your job for a year, maybe two, but when conditions are perfect you’ll perform and see how long you stay employed.

There is no sure thing in the NFL draft. You do the best you can with the information you’re given.

Aaron Curry, former Seahawks LB drafted ahead of Cushing was thought of as the cleanest prospect in the 2009 draft. Absolute bust.

Curry is now a LB coach for the Steelers and he admitted that after being drafted he basically mentally checked out because he accomplished his goal of taking care of his family financially.

Then he dealt with some injuries and did not have that innate desire to be a great player that you need to succeed in the NFL so he flamed out pretty quickly. Pretty difficult to see that lack of dog in a player in a media draft profile everyone has access to… but NFL teams try to find that out during visits and other sources.
DeMeco is also walking into a team that has fired two coaches in two years. Both of those guys were hired to tank, did their job, then got fired anyways. Who wants to ruin their career tanking so the team can shitcan you and hand the job to a McCown?

He ain't coming in with his fate tied to two-time coach killer Mills.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
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Exactly. Which is why the “just tank and grab that unicorn next year” talk is pointless. Try telling your boss that you’re just gonna suck at your job for a year, maybe two, but when conditions are perfect you’ll perform and see how long you stay employed
I don't buy the thinking that you have to have a particular guy, or you suck dichotomy.

I think Anthony Richardson is going to have a good career. I think Levis is going to have a good career.

IMO Matt Stafford was who we thought he was & he wasn't enough to overcome the Detroit dysfunction.

We're pretty dysfunctional. One of the worst defensive teams two/three years running. The problem is deeper than coaches.

One of the worst rushing teams at least 2 of the last 3 years.

Granted they upgraded the talent this offseason. But I want to make sure my 1st time coaches can coach before I open a 5 year window.

I'm personally going to be disappointed if y'all start complaining about game plan, play calling, & not properly using talent.
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
I don't buy the thinking that you have to have a particular guy, or you suck dichotomy.

I think Anthony Richardson is going to have a good career. I think Levis is going to have a good career.

IMO Matt Stafford was who we thought he was & he wasn't enough to overcome the Detroit dysfunction.

We're pretty dysfunctional. One of the worst defensive teams two/three years running. The problem is deeper than coaches.

One of the worst rushing teams at least 2 of the last 3 years.

Granted they upgraded the talent this offseason. But I want to make sure my 1st time coaches can coach before I open a 5 year window.

I'm personally going to be disappointed if y'all start complaining about game plan, play calling, & not properly using talent.
Hey the Bengals were a dysfunctional organization, the Jaguars were dysfunctional as well. They went and drafted their quarterbacks and now things are looking pretty darn for them. They’re building around their young franchise quarterbacks.
Right now things are looks very positive and promising for the Texans. We’ll find out here real soon.
 

thunderkyss

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Hey the Bengals were a dysfunctional organization, the Jaguars were dysfunctional as well. They went and drafted their quarterbacks and now things are looking pretty darn for them. They’re building around their young franchise quarterbacks.
Right now things are looks very positive and promising for the Texans. We’ll find out here real soon.
The Bengals weren't starting a rookie QB with a rookie OC & a rookie QB coach... I think our OL coach is a rookie, could be wrong.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
How do we know Slowik can coach offense?

Seriously asking. The information I have so far says he should be able to. & I get being positive & hoping for the best. But this is the Not For Long league.
For me, it is Slowik spending 6 years under a Callahan with Ryans and then DeMeco risking his inaugural debut by bringing Slowik with him and promoting him. Does what we know of DeMeco indicate any manner he would risk that on a man he likes but wasn't absolutely rock certain could run a SF 'type ' offense?

Do I know that Slowick is going to succeed ? No, not any more than I know if any other would have done better.

I will compare to the draft. We do not know if any of the first rounders are going to be the guy they should be but The team studies, scouts and valuates and then pulls the trigger. We will see if the projectile hits the target. I am much more optimistic than I have been in years.
 

The1ApplePie

Hall of Fame
The Bengals weren't starting a rookie QB with a rookie OC & a rookie QB coach... I think our OL coach is a rookie, could be wrong.
I think Stroud has a better supporting cast than Burrow did. One of the NFL's better O-Lines, good RB and TE. WRs aren't great, but the Bengals were a year away from Chase. AFC South is weaker than what Burrow faced.
 

JB

Innocent Bystander
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I think Stroud has a better supporting cast than Burrow did. One of the NFL's better O-Lines, good RB and TE. WRs aren't great, but the Bengals were a year away from Chase. AFC South is weaker than what Burrow faced.
Well I sure hope that Stroud's rookie season does not = Burrow's
 

Texansphan

Football connoisseur
I think Stroud has a better supporting cast than Burrow did. One of the NFL's better O-Lines, good RB and TE. WRs aren't great, but the Bengals were a year away from Chase. AFC South is weaker than what Burrow faced.
And they should have an easier schedule this season.
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
The Bengals weren't starting a rookie QB with a rookie OC & a rookie QB coach... I think our OL coach is a rookie, could be wrong.
This is true. Remember when Gary Kubiak got his first HC gig and then proceeded to bring us a first time OC (which wasn't a big deal because he was more of QB coach then and Gary did all the offense) and a first time DC as well.... Then replaced him with another first time DC (Was it Richard Smith and then Frank Bush or the other way around? I forget). Of course we can't forget how the roster was churned up and made up of mostly rookies or first time starters like Schaub for a bit. Took some time and the arrival of Alex Gibbs and then Wade Phillips to make that mix come together.

I'm optimistic but that's a lot of first time positions to hope succeed all at the same time. Not all of those are going to pan out and we should remember that and not be surprised when it happens.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
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Close though. Callahan in 2nd year as OC with a rookie QB coach (Pitcher promoted from assistant QB coach just like Jerrod Johnson) for Burrow’s rookie season.
I'd feel much better if this was Slowick's 2nd season. Where the team has at least a basic understanding of what's what.

I know our rookie QB is going to say something wrong in the huddle and at the line. I'd like for everyone else to have a common experience to draw on & say, "he must mean xxxx"

Without that common experience to "know" what he means we'll see two OLmen double teaming air while our TE is overloaded with three rushers, or our RB out of position to pick up the blitz, & a bunch of other little things that snowball & makes it a 3 ring circus.
 

corry

Waterboy
I'd feel much better if this was Slowick's 2nd season. Where the team has at least a basic understanding of what's what.

I know our rookie QB is going to say something wrong in the huddle and at the line. I'd like for everyone else to have a common experience to draw on & say, "he must mean xxxx"

Without that common experience to "know" what he means we'll see two OLmen double teaming air while our TE is overloaded with three rushers, or our RB out of position to pick up the blitz, & a bunch of other little things that snowball & makes it a 3 ring circus.
I am with you, but you have to trust that Demeco felt pretty comfortable with Slowik to make that decision. Guys like Slowik got to work with McVay, Mcdaniels, LaFleur, their whole career. Hopefully he picked a few things up.
 

Texansphan

Football connoisseur
I am with you, but you have to trust that Demeco felt pretty comfortable with Slowik to make that decision. Guys like Slowik got to work with McVay, Mcdaniels, LaFleur, their whole career. Hopefully he picked a few things up.
I operated heavy earthmoving equipment for almost 40 years and got pretty good at a wide variety of machines.
I remember my recipe for success - I would find out who the best guys were at each machine and watch them and pick their brains.
I hope Slowik followed a similar path with his craft.
 

corry

Waterboy
I operated heavy earthmoving equipment for almost 40 years and got pretty good at a wide variety of machines.
I remember my recipe for success - I would find out who the best guys were at each machine and watch them and pick their brains.
I hope Slowik followed a similar path with his craft.
I mean... probably isn't a bad thing to do lol! Slowik opened up at one of his pressors suggesting that he had a lot of responsibility with the offense due to Kyle's coaching nature.

Then you look at his coaching tree and realize that a lot of his guys have success pretty quick.

Hopefully we can keep Slowik a few years, because his tree is hot in the BIZ.
 

Texansphan

Football connoisseur
I mean... probably isn't a bad thing to do lol! Slowik opened up at one of his pressors suggesting that he had a lot of responsibility with the offense due to Kyle's coaching nature.

Then you look at his coaching tree and realize that a lot of his guys have success pretty quick.

Hopefully we can keep Slowik a few years, because his tree is hot in the BIZ.
Knowing our luck, he will guide this offense to 8 or 9 wins and have our rookies looking good only to be snapped up as HC by another desperate team next season.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
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I am with you, but you have to trust that Demeco felt pretty comfortable with Slowik to make that decision. Guys like Slowik got to work with McVay, Mcdaniels, LaFleur, their whole career. Hopefully he picked a few things up.
In my scenario Slowick isn’t the problem. It’s “everybody” trying to learn a new system at the same time. Hence I would have been more comfortable drafting a QB at the top of the draft if this was Slowick’s 2nd or 3rd year as OC.
 

LikeMike

Veteran
So overall, I really like the draft. But I wouldn‘t have done the trade at that cost. But no use to lament over this any more, I will just enjoy watching an exciting team full of promising rookies again. Let‘s go get that offensive and that defensive rookie of the year now!
Yay, they listened!
 
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Texansphan

Football connoisseur
I don't give love away for free. Show me that you care. Buy me something nice. Like a franchise QB and a pro bowl pass rusher.
Granted
Would you like me to toss in a weapon at receiver too?
It was interesting to revisit this thread
 


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