Doppelmock 2016 Brew V5.0

[Doppelganger]

1. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State, 6’4, 234lbs, 4.87
I am not thrilled with this pick. However, we know that bOb loves to work with guys he has already worked with before. His first year in Htown, he traded or Mallett(who he worked with in NE) and last offseason he brought in another former NE QB he tutored in Brian Hoyer. Hackenberg had a great freshman season with bOB. He has looked iffy since. One problem is certainly coaching. James Franklin is a horribly overrated coach and has triedx to fit a square peg into a round hole. It should take about 5 minutes for any QB “guru” to realize that Hackemberg is NOT a spread offense QB. He is a pro style QB that fits in better with the bOB offensive game plan. That said, he is not ready and would need additional time. One advantage of taking him in the 1st round is that you get the extra year to see how he is doing. If you luck out and he is your guy, you get an extra year cheap. If you are unsure, you get an extra year to see. If he sucks, you can cut him after a couple of years. The money and extra year of controllability, he would get at #22 gives you more of an incentive to roll the dice on a QB later in the first than dropping into the second round to get him.

2. Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA, 6’1, 225lbs, 4.56
It’s pretty clear that until he has a QB who is ready to go, the bOb approach is to run the ball, control the clock, have the QB make good decisions, and play strong D. If you are going to run the ball, you need a strong rb option. Perkins is that guy. A big strong, surpringly quick back would be great for the bOb system. He also has solid hands and can catch the ball out of the backfield.

3. Joshua Garnett, G, Stanford, 6’5, 325lbs, 5.35
A solid overall OG who has abilities in both the run and pass game. He is not ready to start but would be great depth.

4. Jalin Marshall, WR, Ohio State, 5’11, 205lbs, 4.47
A fast, deep receiving threat, or someone who can go over the middle. The Texans offense desperately needs a shifty, quick, WR and Marshall could be that option.

5. Bralon Addison, RB/WR, Oregon, 5’10, 190lbs, 4.48
The Texans need speed. Addison is a speedy option who can play at WR or RB. He would be a nice compliment to Perkins providing a true Thunder and Lightening option. He could also play as a slot receiver. He could be a great ST player as well. Imagine an offense in which you have the bigger receivers Hopkins and Strong on the outside running a route and then you place Marshall and Addison inside them as they run a double crossing route! Could be a nightmare to defend!

6. Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss, 6’5 306lbs, 5.27
You can never have too many OL on your team. Cooper has good size and skill development to be a solid backup at RT. With some good coaching, perhaps he can grow into a bigger role.

 

[WolverineFan]

I think you're a little mixed up on Perkins. He's like 5-11, 205. More of a slasher than a strong, power runner.

 

[Texian]

Is that you OB wan kenobi the great Master and QB Guru????

 

[PHILLYTEXANFAN]

1. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State, 6’4, 234lbs, 4.87
I am not thrilled with this pick. However, we know that bOb loves to work with guys he has already worked with before. His first year in Htown, he traded or Mallett(who he worked with in NE) and last offseason he brought in another former NE QB he tutored in Brian Hoyer. Hackenberg had a great freshman season with bOB. He has looked iffy since. One problem is certainly coaching. James Franklin is a horribly overrated coach and has triedx to fit a square peg into a round hole. It should take about 5 minutes for any QB “guru” to realize that Hackemberg is NOT a spread offense QB. He is a pro style QB that fits in better with the bOB offensive game plan. That said, he is not ready and would need additional time. One advantage of taking him in the 1st round is that you get the extra year to see how he is doing. If you luck out and he is your guy, you get an extra year cheap. If you are unsure, you get an extra year to see. If he sucks, you can cut him after a couple of years. The money and extra year of controllability, he would get at #22 gives you more of an incentive to roll the dice on a QB later in the first than dropping into the second round to get him.

2. Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA, 6’1, 225lbs, 4.56
It’s pretty clear that until he has a QB who is ready to go, the bOb approach is to run the ball, control the clock, have the QB make good decisions, and play strong D. If you are going to run the ball, you need a strong rb option. Perkins is that guy. A big strong, surpringly quick back would be great for the bOb system. He also has solid hands and can catch the ball out of the backfield.

3. Joshua Garnett, G, Stanford, 6’5, 325lbs, 5.35
A solid overall OG who has abilities in both the run and pass game. He is not ready to start but would be great depth.

4. Jalin Marshall, WR, Ohio State, 5’11, 205lbs, 4.47
A fast, deep receiving threat, or someone who can go over the middle. The Texans offense desperately needs a shifty, quick, WR and Marshall could be that option.

5. Bralon Addison, RB/WR, Oregon, 5’10, 190lbs, 4.48
The Texans need speed. Addison is a speedy option who can play at WR or RB. He would be a nice compliment to Perkins providing a true Thunder and Lightening option. He could also play as a slot receiver. He could be a great ST player as well. Imagine an offense in which you have the bigger receivers Hopkins and Strong on the outside running a route and then you place Marshall and Addison inside them as they run a double crossing route! Could be a nightmare to defend!

6. Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss, 6’5 306lbs, 5.27
You can never have too many OL on your team. Cooper has good size and skill development to be a solid backup at RT. With some good coaching, perhaps he can grow into a bigger role.

My beef with this is Hack and Perkins are way to high. No way Garnett last till the third

 

[thunderkyss]

1. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State, 6’4, 234lbs, 4.87
Hackenberg had a great freshman season with bOB. He has looked iffy since. One problem is certainly coaching. James Franklin is a horribly overrated coach and has triedx to fit a square peg into a round hole. It should take about 5 minutes for any QB “guru” to realize that Hackemberg is NOT a spread offense QB. He is a pro style QB that fits in better with the bOB offensive game plan.

I appreciate the work that has gone into this. However, I don't buy this argument. Isn't the spread offense supposed to make borderline talent overachieveRS at the QB position?

Hack couldn't figure it out in two years or was he just refusing to be coached? Was he any better as a junior than he was as a sophomore?

Don't get me wrong. He's got the size & he's got a nice arm. He doesn't appear to be scared, he has good poise... pocket awareness... eh.

But he looks better than Jay Cutler & there's no reason to believe OB couldn't get Jay Cutler type production out of him.

 

[steelbtexan]

I appreciate the work that has gone into this. However, I don't buy this argument. Isn't the spread offense supposed to make borderline talent overachieveRS at the QB position?

Hack couldn't figure it out in two years or was he just refusing to be coached? Was he any better as a junior than he was as a sophomore?

Don't get me wrong. He's got the size & he's got a nice arm. He doesn't appear to be scared, he has good poise... pocket awareness... eh.

But he looks better than Jay Cutler & there's no reason to believe OB couldn't get Jay Cutler type production out of him.

I would be very happy to get a Cutler type talent with a little more heart.

Yes, Hack had a much better Jr yr than Soph yr despite being beaten to a pulp. My only reservation with picking Hack is has the beatings he took going to make him gun shy like HWNSNBM?

 

[steelbtexan]

1. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State, 6’4, 234lbs, 4.87
I am not thrilled with this pick. However, we know that bOb loves to work with guys he has already worked with before. His first year in Htown, he traded or Mallett(who he worked with in NE) and last offseason he brought in another former NE QB he tutored in Brian Hoyer. Hackenberg had a great freshman season with bOB. He has looked iffy since. One problem is certainly coaching. James Franklin is a horribly overrated coach and has triedx to fit a square peg into a round hole. It should take about 5 minutes for any QB “guru” to realize that Hackemberg is NOT a spread offense QB. He is a pro style QB that fits in better with the bOB offensive game plan. That said, he is not ready and would need additional time. One advantage of taking him in the 1st round is that you get the extra year to see how he is doing. If you luck out and he is your guy, you get an extra year cheap. If you are unsure, you get an extra year to see. If he sucks, you can cut him after a couple of years. The money and extra year of controllability, he would get at #22 gives you more of an incentive to roll the dice on a QB later in the first than dropping into the second round to get him.

2. Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA, 6’1, 225lbs, 4.56
It’s pretty clear that until he has a QB who is ready to go, the bOb approach is to run the ball, control the clock, have the QB make good decisions, and play strong D. If you are going to run the ball, you need a strong rb option. Perkins is that guy. A big strong, surpringly quick back would be great for the bOb system. He also has solid hands and can catch the ball out of the backfield.

3. Joshua Garnett, G, Stanford, 6’5, 325lbs, 5.35
A solid overall OG who has abilities in both the run and pass game. He is not ready to start but would be great depth.

4. Jalin Marshall, WR, Ohio State, 5’11, 205lbs, 4.47
A fast, deep receiving threat, or someone who can go over the middle. The Texans offense desperately needs a shifty, quick, WR and Marshall could be that option.

5. Bralon Addison, RB/WR, Oregon, 5’10, 190lbs, 4.48
The Texans need speed. Addison is a speedy option who can play at WR or RB. He would be a nice compliment to Perkins providing a true Thunder and Lightening option. He could also play as a slot receiver. He could be a great ST player as well. Imagine an offense in which you have the bigger receivers Hopkins and Strong on the outside running a route and then you place Marshall and Addison inside them as they run a double crossing route! Could be a nightmare to defend!

6. Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss, 6’5 306lbs, 5.27
You can never have too many OL on your team. Cooper has good size and skill development to be a solid backup at RT. With some good coaching, perhaps he can grow into a bigger role.

They dont have a 6th, they have two 5th's ans two 7th's.

1. Hack- I'm good with this pick
2.-3. Switch these picks rds and you still get the same players. Best OG in the draft
4. Marshall- I've got a bias against Big Ten WR's. Give me some ACC/SEC WR's.
5. Addison- love him, love Ayers/Braverman more (Good pick)
6. Cooper- no way he lasts this long. I think he's the most underrated OL in this class. CBS/Rang have him in the 4th and I wopuld spend a 3rd on him. I think Cooper can start as a rookie. Of course I'm higher on him than most after I saw how well he played when he replaced Tunsil (Suspension this yr.) You should look at more film on him.

Great job

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

I would be very happy to get a Cutler type talent with a little more heart.

Yes, Hack had a much better Jr yr than Soph yr despite being beaten to a pulp. My only reservation with picking Hack is has the beatings he took going to make him gun shy like HWNSNBM?

I think the only way you're guaranteed to get any remnants of a QB you want is to take him with the 1st pick . Having said that it might be better in the short term to gamble in getting a QB in the 2nd and getting a real good player in the 1st .

The 2nd is the way the Texans usually operate in the QB chase . XSF at 33 instead of a QB and letting a team swoop in at 32 . Genius one minute dumbazz the next . Of course they may not liked a QB that high .

 

[steelbtexan]

I think the only way you're guaranteed to get any remnants of a QB you want is to take him with the 1st pick . Having said that it might be better in the short term to gamble in getting a QB in the 2nd and getting a real good player in the 1st .

The 2nd is the way the Texans usually operate in the QB chase . XSF at 33 instead of a QB and letting a team swoop in at 32 . Genius one minute dumbazz the next . Of cour
se they may not liked a QB that high .

I think the only way you're guaranteed to get any remnants of a QB you want is to take him with the 1st pick . Having said that it might be better in the short term to gamble in getting a QB in the 2nd and getting a real good player in the 1st .

The 2nd is the way the Texans usually operate in the QB chase . XSF at 33 instead of a QB and letting a team swoop in at 32 . Genius one minute dumbazz the next . Of course they may not liked a QB that high .

Agreed, If BOB thinks Hack is the guy they need to take him at 22. They should even trade up to get him and make sure they get him (Above the Rams at 15) if they truly believe Hack is the guy and not take any chances on a Teddy/Jimmy G snafu happening again. (I'm not a proponent of this)

 

[beerlover]

Selecting Hackenberg with the 22nd overall selection in the 2016 NFL draft lets just mull that one over a bit...... nope. I would rather see Texans replace OB if that's his three year answer for QB.

I could see them trading up in 2nd sure, no shame in that & certainly not missing out on a much higher graded prospect either than they could net @ #22. One thing for sure we'll have a better idea after free agency, what glaring needs remain, right now for me its OT, DT & FS. You do mock a tackle, but later & no Safety or Defensive Nose to replace Wilfork next season or thereafter? Texans can relieve a lot of pressure if they can get a proven NFL QB in free agency before the draft, then focus on their needs with BPA.

Will look forward to your adjustments V6.0

BL

 

[Shishkabob]

Selecting Hackenberg with the 22nd overall selection in the 2016 NFL draft lets just mull that one over a bit...... nope. I would rather see Texans replace OB if that's his three year answer for QB.

I could see them trading up in 2nd sure, no shame in that & certainly not missing out on a much higher graded prospect either than they could net @ #22. One thing for sure we'll have a better idea after free agency, what glaring needs remain, right now for me its OT, DT & FS. You do mock a tackle, but later & no Safety or Defensive Nose to replace Wilfork next season or thereafter? Texans can relieve a lot of pressure if they can get a proven NFL QB in free agency before the draft, then focus on their needs with BPA.

Will look forward to your adjustments V6.0

BL

yes the proven veteran has worked so well for us before lol

 

[beerlover]

yes the proven veteran has worked so well for us before lol

Texans have never had a proven commodity @ QB. Schwab was a back-up, same with Fitzpatrick, Mallett & Hoyer just to name a few going all the way back to Banks.

Cousins is fringe, Bradford & RG III trying to make comebacks, but a guy like Cutler or Stafford intrigue me. Trying to manufacture a starting QB out of a back-up or journeyman has been the path to which you speak.

 

[Shishkabob]

Texans have never had a proven commodity @ QB. Schwab was a back-up, same with Fitzpatrick, Mallett & Hoyer just to name a few going all the way back to Banks.

Cousins is fringe, Bradford & RG III trying to make comebacks, but a guy like Cutler or Stafford intrigue me. Trying to manufacture a starting QB out of a back-up or journeyman has been the path to which you speak.

Teams dont let sure fire starting QBs walk that often. There is no way the Lions are letting Stafford go, at least not for anything less then a fortune. Their new FO and HC have both come put publicly and backed him, he is still young they are a season removed from the playoffs, and finished the season hot. Cutler might be better than anything we've had, but still wont be the answer. He has a knack for making boneheaded plays at the worse times, shows no fire or passion, has zero leadership abilities and has more than once proven he plays down when competition ramps up. Also i doubt Chicago would let him go and eat the dead money.

We need to try to develop our own guy. Let our so called QB guru do his thing with his own guy. We put off drafting a QB for to many years now time to buck up and take one that OB thinks he can turn into a consistent winner

 

[beerlover]

Forgot to mention Brock Osweisler as another option. Fringe like Cousins (limited starting ops) but look like solid bets & free agents. I would'nt be surprised if Texans are in play for both.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...letter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

 

[Shishkabob]

Forgot to mention Brock Osweisler as another option. Fringe like Cousins (limited starting ops) but look like solid bets & free agents. I would'nt be surprised if Texans are in play for both.

Osweiler is looking for more money for more years than what Foles got, so over $12.5 mil a year for 4 or 5 years, and Cousins is looking for close to $20 mil a year for multi years. Would you feel comfortable signing either of those guys to those contracts?

 

[powda]

Should Oz or Cuz hit the market (they wont) they'll command monster contracts. I'd rather draft a rookie cheap and miss then sign one of these guys-miss and spend a fortune.

To me it's Lynch if he slides into trade range or hack right now early. Maybe Dak in the 3rd?

We're locked into a bad position i think. We have to sign brooks & jones. Newt has to play better (or an unnamed mid tier swing tackle like Ephraim salami has to come out of nowhere) ,we have to get a running game. We have to upgrade te. We have to add a threat opposite dhop at wr. Lots of moving pieces and i don't think we can do it all in one offseason. One thing is clear...our depth at ol sucks and we have zero flexibility there. That's gotta change.

Defense may or may not win championships - see thread and argument elsewhere - but we don't have a tandem of von and ware. Sometimes points win to. How are we going to score with what we have? We can't count on special teams and defensive scores. We are not the 85 bears. This d hasn't earned a nickname and until it does we have to be flexible with how we win.

 

[JB]

We don't know what we have at TE because they were never used... that's on OB or Hoyer imo.

 

[powda]

We don't know what we have at TE because they were never used... that's on OB or Hoyer imo.

I'd say thats only somewhat true. I was a fan of Ryan Griffin a year back but how many times do I have to see a dropped pass before i stop believing? I think we can get better production out of the guys we have but i also think it wouldn't take much to upgrade the position. I don't trust any of them at this point with a 3rd down reception to keep a drive alive.

Looks to me like this might be the easiest position to upgrade cheaply in free agency. I'd pull the trigger there and use picks on other needs.

 

[beerlover]

Osweiler is looking for more money for more years than what Foles got, so over $12.5 mil a year for 4 or 5 years, and Cousins is looking for close to $20 mil a year for multi years. Would you feel comfortable signing either of those guys to those contracts?

Dont think it's a money problem for the Texans, unless your footing the bill, Cal is that you, lol

Seriously BO looks like the model OB QB

 

[Shishkabob]

Dont think it's a money problem for the Texans, unless your footing the bill, Cal is that you, lol

Seriously BO looks like the model OB QB

Except for his weak arm....

In reality he is still an unknown commodity. He played well sometimes and poorly other times, on a highly talented team. You can lock yourself to this unknown with a big contract that could handicap your team for a few years, or go with another unknown commodity that wont even cost you a third so if it doesnt work out you can get out of it relatively unharmed

 

[infantrycak]

Except for his weak arm....

What weak arm? I saw no evidence of that and all his scouting notes a plus arm.

50 yds in the air with an easy throwing motion:

In reality he is still an unknown commodity. He played well sometimes and poorly other times, on a highly talented team. You can lock yourself to this unknown with a big contract that could handicap your team for a few years, or go with another unknown commodity that wont even cost you a third so if it doesnt work out you can get out of it relatively unharmed

Who?

 

[Shishkabob]

What weak arm? I saw no evidence of that and all his scouting notes a plus arm.

50 yds in the air with an easy throwing motion:

Who?

Almost every QB can throw a deep bomb when they get a chance to set their feet, and let it loose. BTW your video wont play as its blocked by the NFL. Im talking about I want a QB who can throw a 15 yard out with some zip. His out passes looked fairly weak to me when i saw them.

BO is a relatively unknown commodity, he played half the season with mixed results.

 

[beerlover]

This is entirely up to Doppelbock it's his show (thread). I would just highly encourage Texan GM to do some exploratory work into what it would take to make Brock a Texan. Problem could be solvable :kubepalm:

 

[thunderkyss]

This is entirely up to Doppelbock it's his show (thread). I would just highly encourage Texan GM to do some exploratory work into what it would take to make Brock a Texan. Problem could be solvable :kubepalm:

Would you be willing to trade as much, or more than you would to get one of the top three?

Or are you only interested if he becomes a free agent?

 

[beerlover]

Would you be willing to trade as much, or more than you would to get one of the top three?

Or are you only interested if he becomes a free agent?

My understanding is contract talks w/Broncos have broken down & they may test RG3 waters for less money. I'm thinking he is worth contract equal to Dalton 15-16 million. Denver wants him but for much less. Enter Houston. No picks needed just cash down.

Only QB in this draft I covet is Wentz. Goff is a little undersized to start right now. Lynch is intriguing & would be closest comp to Osweiler but he comes without starting NFL experience. So out of the gate I would grade Wentz #1 Osweiler #2 & Lynch #3 least in O'Brian offense.

 

[Mollywhopper]

Only QB in this draft I covet is Wentz. Goff is a little undersized to start right now. Lynch is intriguing & would be closest comp to Osweiler but he comes without starting NFL experience. So out of the gate I would grade Wentz #1 Osweiler #2 & Lynch #3 least in O'Brian offense.

Are you ranking Goff lower than them solely because he's a little thin?

 

[thunderkyss]

Are you ranking Goff lower than them solely because he's a little thin?

Not saying that I don't believe Goff is every bit as good the prospect everyone says he is, but I can't get over the fact that he played in an Air Raid system.

He said he had a lot of control at the LOS, but watching the few games & offensive cut ups that I have, I don't see any clues that he had any "extra" control.

I do like what I see... but I liked Bryce Petty as well. Without being able to interview Goff myself I don't really know what to think of him.

I'll be excited if he's the one who falls within range... but it will be with cautious optimism.

 

[Mollywhopper]

Not saying that I don't believe Goff is every bit as good the prospect everyone says he is, but I can't get over the fact that he played in an Air Raid system.

He said he had a lot of control at the LOS, but watching the few games & offensive cut ups that I have, I don't see any clues that he had any "extra" control.

I do like what I see... but I liked Bryce Petty as well. Without being able to interview Goff myself I don't really know what to think of him.

I'll be excited if he's the one who falls within range... but it will be with cautious optimism.

Goff is trusted with making both blocking and route adjustments at the line. He's also making reads in coverage from the back of the secondary forward which is why you see more throws of his up the seams and up the sidelines than you do a P Lynch who's got about 40% of his passes lateral the los. Add to that the fact that he's made many throws in anticipation of windows where as typical run'n'gun style offenses are just snapping the ball and finding the most open stationary target or 9 route, like what Briles runs so much.

The kid is mentally beyond just the Air Raid system label, really. Not saying he's at a point to come into the league and take over a pro offense day 1, but the wheels have been greased more than that label gives him near enough credit for. I've seen him calling instructions rather frequently in the number of games I've watched him. He's not in the Manning mold of flapping about and screaming state capitals, but Dykes system relies on quick one word verbiage adjustments to plays. Other than that, just not sure what to tell you in terms of 'seeing it' when watching him play.

 

[beerlover]

Are you ranking Goff lower than them solely because he's a little thin?

Think about it, who is the Bill O'Brian type? He would prefer a bigger, physical, tough guy who is a supreme leader both off & on the field. That counts just as much as quick release, accuracy & arm strength. Balance everything together is why I feel Texans draft board will reflect something like Wentz, Osweiler, Lynch.
Thank you, for asking.

 

[infantrycak]

Think about it, who is the Bill O'Brian type? He would prefer a bigger, physical, tough guy who is a supreme leader both off & on the field. That counts just as much as quick release, accuracy & arm strength. Balance everything together is why I feel Texans draft board will reflect something like Wentz, Osweiler, Lynch.
Thank you, for asking.

Who says?

Fitz and Hoyer are hardly giants. Seems more like you prefer.

 

[beerlover]

Who says?

Fitz and Hoyer are hardly giants. Seems more like you prefer.

Brady & Mallet. He didn't really seem to jive with Fitz & Hoyer was only QB on open market last year who he was familiar with. Don't think either was thought to be ideal just stop gap but carry on with your personal attacks I'm use to them.

 

[infantrycak]

What f'n personal attack? You just don't like being questioned in what you consider your personal fiefdom.

OB had zilch to do with Brady. And he has never been considered a big tough guy. Plus draft guru that you are, you should know Brady was lighter than Goff at the combine - 211 lbs.

 

[thunderkyss]

Goff is trusted with making both blocking and route adjustments at the line. He's also making reads in coverage from the back of the secondary forward which is why you see more throws of his up the seams and up the sidelines...

Add to that the fact that he's made many throws in anticipation of windows where as typical run'n'gun style offenses are just snapping the ball and finding the most open stationary target or 9 route, like what Briles runs so much.

The kid is mentally beyond just the Air Raid system label, really.

I've seen him calling instructions rather frequently in the number of games I've watched him. He's not in the Manning mold of flapping about and screaming state capitals, but Dykes system relies on quick one word verbiage adjustments to plays. Other than that, just not sure what to tell you in terms of 'seeing it' when watching him play.

Guess it would help if I knew Dykes...

I'll try to watch another Cal game this weekend & see if I pick up on anything. Thanks for the reply.

 

[bah007]

Guess it would help if I knew Dykes...

I'll try to watch another Cal game this weekend & see if I pick up on anything. Thanks for the reply.

Dykes actually prefers to control the offense from the sideline, much like Mike Leach does with the same system. But he's reached a point with Goff where he understood that it was better for the team if he relinquished control and let Goff run things on the field.

I'd have to search for the article, but last offseason Dykes even came out and admitted that Goff had created checks and audibles with the OL and WRs that he didn't even know about. At first he wasn't sure how to feel about it, but it kept working so he let Goff roll with it.

The offense improved every time Dykes gave Goff more control of it. That's very rare at the college level.

 

[Doppelganger]

My beef with this is Hack and Perkins are way to high. No way Garnett last till the third

I think one thing we have learned is the value of a QB is worth far more than the value of another position. I think the relative value of a QB trumps all. With the way the rookie scale has been written, its an incentive to go get your QB in the first round than than the 2nd due to an extra cheap year. Take look at the situation between Teddy bridgewater and Derek Carr. Both look like good players, but which team is in better shape? I would say Minnesota. Since they drafted him in the first round, they get that all important 5th option year. Thus they get more time to spread out money, and work out a contract vs Oakland who are going to have to give Carr a new contract next year.

 

[Doppelganger]

Selecting Hackenberg with the 22nd overall selection in the 2016 NFL draft lets just mull that one over a bit...... nope. I would rather see Texans replace OB if that's his three year answer for QB.

I could see them trading up in 2nd sure, no shame in that & certainly not missing out on a much higher graded prospect either than they could net @ #22. One thing for sure we'll have a better idea after free agency, what glaring needs remain, right now for me its OT, DT & FS. You do mock a tackle, but later & no Safety or Defensive Nose to replace Wilfork next season or thereafter? Texans can relieve a lot of pressure if they can get a proven NFL QB in free agency before the draft, then focus on their needs with BPA.

Will look forward to your adjustments V6.0

BL

I would not be opposed to going to proven NFL QB in free agency approach, but I don't see any real options out there.
I am not impressed with Cousins or Bradford. I don't see either as better than Hoyer. What I saw out of Osweiller was not impressive. he had one good quarter and that's about it. The Denver defense carried him to victories. Cutler simply doesn't have it. I have watched him in Denver and Chicago and they guy simply is not a good QB. He is wildly inconsistent. CK played well in SF but dramatically regressed. I would love to get Stafford, but there is no way Detroit would be dumb enough to get rid of him.

So, who is left? I say roll the dice on a first round QB. Hack knows the bOb system so he should be the most prepared and ready to go.

 

[beerlover]

What f'n personal attack? You just don't like being questioned in what you consider your personal fiefdom.

OB had zilch to do with Brady. And he has never been considered a big tough guy. Plus draft guru that you are, you should know Brady was lighter than Goff at the combine - 211 lbs.

214 but who's counting? 9 inch hands do. Compared to 237 & 10 inch hands there is a clear cut winner as NFL prototype.

Let the conjecture & disdain hurl

 

[infantrycak]

 

[thunderkyss]

Imagine what Bridgewater would look like next to him in his boxers. I know the numbers are similar, but one guy looks like a full grown man & the other looks like a 13 year old boy. A tall 13 year old boy, but a boy just the same.

Granted... he took some hits this year & impressed the crap out of me. But still...