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HJam72 said:
Have you not read one word I have typed in previous posts??? The reason the pass protection sucks is because teams are pinning there ear backs and rushing game. If Davis gets the ball, big deal. The defense will get him. One play that I keep pointing to was during the last Colts game. Davis had a couple of good runs but on 1st and 10 when Carr was in the shotgun and play faked to Davis, Freeney (who had already got by Wand) didnt even flinch at that play fake. He went right after Carr, and oh my goodness. Carr was the one with the ball. Freeney didnt even make an attempt at Carr. If that is LT or some other game breaking back, you better believe Freeney honors the play fake...AndreJ said:You just answered your own question right there. 171.6 yards! that is horrible if anybody is to blame its Carr! Well not necessarily the blame should be based on the O-Line they can't keep any Defense off of Carr's back and give him time to make a pass play. The running game is not where the problem lies its the passing game. In the beginning of the season people were saying that carr couldn't do it all without and running game well he got that, but then the passing protection fell to ****.
I think once our O-Line gets together and start blocking like they are suppose to then our running game will get even better and the passing game will do the same. The offense revolves around the O-Line. To pass you have to have time in the pocket without being pressured. And to run obviously you have to a good O-Line to run the ball also. Even for special teams you have to have a good O-Line. We saw against Tennesee, Rien Long just steppd str8 through and blocked Kris Brown's field goal. Nearly costing us a 10 point swing!
It is a new blocking scheme and the haven't even finished the year, so i am not saying that we should just go find an entirely new line, but with time as the O-Line gets better, you can expect the running game and passing game; offense to take off and be a rell big threat for the opposing defense.
I dont know what you have been watching, but Davis always gets caught from behind. Even the Bus has a couple of 20 yards run. Lets not get caught up in that. Every back in the league will get a couple of those each year.jr0ck said:i think its interesting that everyone keeps bringing up davis' lack of outright speed, among other things. did anyone see the jets game? so what if his 61 yarder was called back, the holding wasn't on the LB's or safety he juked, and i don't remember him getting caught from behind either. and on that note, i can't remember DD getting caught from behind....EVER! and didn't he pick up 23 yds on a sweep against a fairly stout chicago D last sunday? didn't he have to be fast enough to turn the corner to gain those yards? i just can't get the mentallity that davis isn't, at the very least, a good runningback for the texans right now. why do we have to have a freakish hershal walker/jamal lewis human plow? or a lightning quick barry sanders clone? why don't all the naysayers see that versatility can be just as effective, if not more, than a specialized runningback that only excels in a few areas? and although im not saying davis is even worthy of emmit smith's dirty socks, but i think physical comparisons and running styles can be seen as comprable. was smith the biggest back? was he the fastest back? was he the quickest back? well did any of that stop him from being just a third down back? did it stop him from being the cowboys "franchise back"? i hope the comparison doesn't take away from my very valid points to much, but im just a little frustrated with talk drafting a RB high after DD's very workman performance (with 23 carries, 95 yds and a TD) that contributed to a texans victory. im gonna go watch monday night countdown, but i leave with this thought.....why do we need a back that can break multiple tackles to gain yards? or better said, why are multiple defenders always around our running backs?
jr0ck said:i think its interesting that everyone keeps bringing up davis' lack of outright speed, among other things. did anyone see the jets game? so what if his 61 yarder was called back, the holding wasn't on the LB's or safety he juked, and i don't remember him getting caught from behind either. and on that note, i can't remember DD getting caught from behind....EVER! and didn't he pick up 23 yds on a sweep against a fairly stout chicago D last sunday? didn't he have to be fast enough to turn the corner to gain those yards? i just can't get the mentallity that davis isn't, at the very least, a good runningback for the texans right now. why do we have to have a freakish hershal walker/jamal lewis human plow? or a lightning quick barry sanders clone? why don't all the naysayers see that versatility can be just as effective, if not more, than a specialized runningback that only excels in a few areas? and although im not saying davis is even worthy of emmit smith's dirty socks, but i think physical comparisons and running styles can be seen as comprable. was smith the biggest back? was he the fastest back? was he the quickest back? well did any of that stop him from being just a third down back? did it stop him from being the cowboys "franchise back"? i hope the comparison doesn't take away from my very valid points to much, but im just a little frustrated with talk drafting a RB high after DD's very workman performance (with 23 carries, 95 yds and a TD) that contributed to a texans victory. im gonna go watch monday night countdown, but i leave with this thought.....why do we need a back that can break multiple tackles to gain yards? or better said, why are multiple defenders always around our running backs?
Have you seen what has happened to the 49ers over the last year??? They lost their star WR, their Pro Bowl QB, and a couple of starting offensive lineman. If you dont think Davis is getting blocks, take a look at a 49ers game and you will be happy. But you know what, the 2-12 record they have shows it.Beastlyman2003 said:
Clinton Portis hasn't done jack ***??? 1283 rushing yards.AndreJ said:As four Fiddy where are you getting this stuff? Who are you to say a team would take one player over another? All players do not fit all teams schemes. If you dont beleive me take a look at clinton portis, he hasn't done jack **** with the redskins this year. I mean what do you have against DD? I'm dying to know. You keep coming up with this empty yards bull, which i think is the dumbest thing i have ever heard of. If he is moving the chains and getting us first downs whether its a dump off pass, or running the ball then why does it matter. And earlier you said he only get yards off of "great blocks" by a lineman and he cant run by or over anyone for a gain.
Yesterday on his 11 yd TD run he flat out ran over R.W. McQuarters and dragged him into the endzone with R.W. hanging on to his leg. If i recall correctly he did the same thing in houston against Idianaplois on his TD run leaving a trail of defenders in his pass (Please don't make me go find any pictures). What more can the guy do this season he has 972 rushing yards and is leading the AFC running back with 515 recieving yards (1442 yards total)! Their are WR's who wish they could have the many yards recieving. Oh and not to mention his 12 TD's on the season. Who cares if he is moving the ball by running or passing a 12 yd pass is no different the a 12 yard run. The leading running back in the league (Curtis Martin) has 1690 total yards (179 passing) and 14 TD's. DD is only trailing Curtis by 248 yards and 2 TD's, who is to say he isn't getting the job done and that Defenses don't plan for him in their attack when he accounts for damn near 50% of the texans offense. And dont come back and give me that BS (empty yards excuse).
In the past 6 or 7 weeks, he has been doing evrything he can to help out the Texans offense. It is not his fault that our D got embarrassed about 3 games in a row and the Texans lost. What else do you want the guy to do pay off Hocculli (that referee) and tell him to call the game in our favor. Geeesh get off his back. The texans have much bigger problems and holes in the team than trying to find a "franchise back"
P.S As far as DD getting empty yards and nott putting points on the board, he ties Tiki Barber with 11 Rushing TD's and thats 6th in the NFL. Once again he's doing his job and it aint his fault the taxans have been losing.
My point is that good teams wouldnt have Davis as a starter. They would have him as a 3rd down back. I am going to pretend you didnt say that about the 2-11 Dolphins talking about the playoff with him, they couldnt even make them with Ricky...Beastlyman2003 said:
Why do you have to wait for people to say it, why dont you just ask it???Beastlyman2003 said:
Its funny you say that Portis' 3.9 isnt good when Davis is averaging 3.6. Davis has always missed games, so why are you putting "not to mention"??? Davis missed games, that should be counted against him.AndreJ said:Yes clinton portis hasn't done jack **** this year i said it. Sure he has 1283 yards, but he also has the most carries in the league (333 carries) and is only avg. 3.9 yards a carry where as his previous two years he avg. 5.5. He also only has 225 passing yards. 225+1283=1508. I think that is what maybe 50 yards more than Davis has had this year not to mention he has missed a few games.
Anyways enough of Portis, what Davis lacks in the running game he makes up in the passing game. For the record, all RB's cannot catch the ball (Jamal Lewis) I have also seen Sean. Alexander drop many passes. Something we never see DD do. Just so you know DD acounts for 50% of our offense in all our games, not just the gm's we lose. And for the last time stop placing the blame on DD for losing the games, by saying when he has 50% of our offense we lose because he always has 50% of our offense. It is not his fault and football is a TEAM sport. It aint like tennis or golf in case you haven't noticed.
Damn, and i said this was gonna be sweet and short.
Fiddy said:
It's called a calculator so dont worry about any mathmatical errors...AndreJ said:Somehow i question your ability to multiply, add, divide etc.... after your "empty yards" statement that you got from 1 writer from ESPN. Anyways whether you think we need to make a change or not Davis aint going nowhere no time soon. So you can just get used to him being around and i'm done with it i made my point. You can argue with yourself from this point on out. We can butt heads in another thread. Until then...........Go TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!!
6-8 and still improving.
TheOgre said:
Dont forget to split up the Vikings game. In the first half of that game only Davis touched the ball and we scored 0 points. In the second half of that game, AJ got all his yards and we scored 28 points. So it is really 2-2...wags said:
There is another thread about this subject. The benchmark for a RB nowadays is 1250-1300 yards. You only have to average 62.5 yards per game to get 1000. Not a big deal...BuffSoldier said:1000 yard rusher.
Thats all it comes down to. With the way the O-line has been blocking this year along with the fact that we a re usuakky behind and have to pass more to get back into games. He still gets 1000 yards, every year of his NFL carrer 1000 yards so shut up and see what the GM and coaches think should be done about the running game. DD will probably be te starter at the srat of next year and if we have a better O-line I would be shocke dif he had another 1000 yard season, hmmmmmmmmmm.
The Titans gave him that long TD so they could get the ball back...caddy said:DD is giving another game? Gee I thought when a pack
of ya, thought that at the titans game, that you don't
know a thing about our own backs. Boom, open a hole
and he's gone. Get it! No, big deal here. No one in the
NFL looks at the Texans and says... let Davis run the ball
so we can win the game.. Hello
Fiddy said:
Capers said on his radio show that Fisher probably did give the TD to Davis so they could get a quick score and the have a chance to recover the onside kick. If the stop Davis on 2nd and 3rd down, the Titans never get the ball back and lose. Where did you hear Fisher deny it???infantrycak said:
