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Do you like the pick or not??

Do you think Picking Mario with the #1 overall was the right thing to do??

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thunderkyss

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I'm getting confused with all these new folks, and some of the old guys, with what went down. I'd like to post this poll, so we can comeback at the end of the season, to see where we stand.

Do you like the pick, or not....... plain and simple. Mario over Reggie.
 
I keep clicking and nothing happens. :wacko:

edit: You're gonna need more than just yes or no. You need hate it, don't like it, can live with (but not the best choice), whatever, like it, very happy, and love it. :)

I would be: can live with it.

Oh, you can stick "I'm still vomitting" and "Sack horny" on either end if you like.
 
HJam72 said:
I keep clicking and nothing happens. :wacko:
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I think you're to fast...... it posted the question, before the poll. I got the first vote.
 
It's just not that simple to me. Yes I like Mario Williams. I just wish we could have traded down a spot or 3 to get him. I was shocked that we passed over Bush when we were already passing over Young. It was a brave pick and may wind up being the best thing this team has ever done.
 
Exascor said:
It's just not that simple to me. Yes I like Mario Williams. I just wish we could have traded down a spot or 3 to get him. I was shocked that we passed over Bush when we were already passing over Young. It was a brave pick and may wind up being the best thing this team has ever done.
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That's no different than the way everyone else is looking at it. We all thought if Reggie was worth all that, then we should trade him for the value, then get Mario & a couple of extra picks this year.

We didn't get the trade offers.

We took Mario.

would you rather we have taken Bush.

it's that simple.
 
I'd like to think we could've gotten something (no matter how small) and the #4 pick from the Jets and still gotten M. Williams, but I just don't know. After all, they did take Ferguson over Leinart. Maybe they'd have taken him over Bush too.
 
I was all aboard the Reggie train, but I think the Mario pick is a good one.

The more I see Reggie and the way he seems to be acting, the more I think he might be a punk.
Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that he isn't as good as I thought... to make myself feel better about Mario.
Reggie has kinda rubbed me the wrong way since before we found out he wouldn't be our pick, but not so much that I didn't want to see him in a Texans uni.
 
You know, when the Jets went on the clock at #4 they had a very hard time deciding between Leinart and Ferguson. They had two guys they wanted and couldn't hardly make up their minds about it. That's why they never wanted to trade up.
 
I like Mario over Reggie, and don't have a problem with it. I think there is more behind the scenes with signing Reggie, and the issue with his parents house. It should be interesting to see how his contract negotiations go.

I would have been happier if we could have traded down 2-4 spots and gotten an extra 1st round pick, and some value picks.:drool:

But I'm ready to get Training Camp started and see these guys on the field.:redtowel:
 
I refuse to be a hypocrite and all of a sudden change my mind. Before the draft I said I wanted Mario if we could move down. That was my stance. If we had #1 then take Bush. I guess that makes me split in a way. I think Mario's addition helps the line and secondary so we can avoid Ram type games. I like the pick but would be lying if I didn't admit that before the draft I was for trading down for Mario or Bush if we were #1. I'm still ton on what type of impact both can have. In our division where outscoring the other team would be tough..and seeing what the Steelers did..I hope he works. So to answer your real question

Yes, with reservations/
 
No, N.C. State was 7-5. How is that an example of him helping his team? Was N.C. State 2-10 the year before? He is no Reggie White. Solid End.:challenge
 
I wanted Bush,but after the disappointment and thinking about the moves we have made this WAS the right pick....I voted yes
 
texplayer2 said:
No, N.C. State was 7-5. How is that an example of him helping his team? Was N.C. State 2-10 the year before? He is no Reggie White. Solid End.:challenge
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Reggie Bush had a team of NFL draftees around him, Mario did not. Reggie will go on to a career like a 2 time Heisman RB 30 years ago did. They are about the same size and NFL defenses have gotten huge since then. Who remembers Archie Griffin?? Same will be said of Reggie in 5 years.

Texans improved their defense, as did ALMOST 2/3 OF THE FIRST ROUND PICKS. Maybe those teams know more than all of the knee jerk band wagon riders??

After 2 or 3 games I hope we can revisit these posts and hope you can admit when you are wrong.
 
I'm of the belief that Defense wins championships. So I liked the pick.

I think if we traded back N.O. was going to take Mario #2 so trading back really wasn't an option.
 
cincinnati patty said:
Reggie Bush had a team of NFL draftees around him, Mario did not. Reggie will go on to a career like a 2 time Heisman RB 30 years ago did. They are about the same size and NFL defenses have gotten huge since then. Who remembers Archie Griffin?? Same will be said of Reggie in 5 years.

Texans improved their defense, as did ALMOST 2/3 OF THE FIRST ROUND PICKS. Maybe those teams know more than all of the knee jerk band wagon riders??

After 2 or 3 games I hope we can revisit these posts and hope you can admit when you are wrong.
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2/3 or I should say 30/32 teams did not have the choice. The Rb laden Saints took Reggie and flew him to the big easy as soon as they could get him on a plane. Yes, after about the third pick defense looks real good in the draft. In actuality defense wasn't selected after 1 until #5. I probably won't get to see those games after 2-3 weeks. I live in Austin area and they like the Cowboys.
 
I voted yes and i will tell you why.(i will admit i was on the Bush bandwagon).
But for this reason i love the pick. We reside in a division of the NFL that has one of the best quarterbacks of all time in Peyton Mannin. If you dont put pressure on that man he will pick you apart, which he has done to us plenty of times. Also there is a Young man about to be coming up with our former team in Nashville he will need to be contained for years to come.

Also we just have never had a pass rush that was worth a damn. Thats why I think that Kubes made the right choice.
Althought i beleive that RB would have been an upgrade at tail back I still think that DD is a good running back.
 
texplayer2 said:
2/3 or I should say 30/32 teams did not have the choice. The Rb laden Saints took Reggie and flew him to the big easy as soon as they could get him on a plane. Yes, after about the third pick defense looks real good in the draft. In actuality defense wasn't selected after 1 until #5. I probably won't get to see those games after 2-3 weeks. I live in Austin area and they like the Cowboys.
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So when was the next runningback....... or WR for that matter taken??
 
texplayer2 said:
No, N.C. State was 7-5. How is that an example of him helping his team? Was N.C. State 2-10 the year before? He is no Reggie White. Solid End.:challenge
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This logic makes no sense. I go to Vanderbilt, where we went 5-6. Should I then conclude that Jay Cutler did not help us win any games. The ACC is a very good conference, and if any of you are college football fans, even getting 3 sacks on Wake Forrest (which Mario did) is incredible - their quarterback had a terrible arm, but was as elusive as a DJ Shockley. So, I disagree. I think that he did help his team, and I think that he Ryans, and Robinson will make for not only a great defense, but a hard working defense built with solid human beings.
 
Exascor said:
It's just not that simple to me. Yes I like Mario Williams. I just wish we could have traded down a spot or 3 to get him. I was shocked that we passed over Bush when we were already passing over Young. It was a brave pick and may wind up being the best thing this team has ever done.
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With Bush off of the board, Williams wouldnt have made it past NO. They wanted to take Mario all along, but they couldnt do it with a trade down. I like the pick and apploaud(sp) the NUTS it took to do what they thought was right for the team and ignore the media backlash.:twocents:
 
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leachmtb said:
This logic makes no sense. I go to Vanderbilt, where we went 5-6. Should I then conclude that Jay Cutler did not help us win any games. The ACC is a very good conference, and if any of you are college football fans, even getting 3 sacks on Wake Forrest (which Mario did) is incredible - their quarterback had a terrible arm, but was as elusive as a DJ Shockley. So, I disagree. I think that he did help his team, and I think that he Ryans, and Robinson will make for not only a great defense, but a hard working defense built with solid human beings.
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Wake Forest???lol: I am sorry, but that is not impressive. How many Wake Forest O-linemen were drafted into the NFL.(This year)? And didn't they lose that game?
 
texplayer2 said:
Wake Forest???lol: I am sorry, but that is not impressive. How many Wake Forest O-linemen were drafted into the NFL.(This year)? And didn't they lose that game?
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Unless you see any of these people play in person, don't pretend like you know. Wake Forrest actually had one of the best running offenses in the ACC. And, seeing as you are probably a UT fan, a comperable statistic would be whether or not any individual Texas DE had multiple sacks against Baylor.
 
I think it was huge mistake that the Texans will regret. I hope I'm wrong and everyone can say "I told you so!" when Mario Williams becomes a dominant player.

By the way, I just renewed my season tickets.
 
leachmtb said:
Unless you see any of these people play in person, don't pretend like you know. Wake Forrest actually had one of the best running offenses in the ACC. And, seeing as you are probably a UT fan, a comperable statistic would be whether or not any individual Texas DE had multiple sacks against Baylor.
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UT?:shocked :pigfly: In no way. Went to U of H, a couple of semesters for basics. They were rank real high at the time, but were on probation. Now I will admit I didn't watch many Wake Forest games(actually none) but, where did this running game rank in the entire country? And I keep hearing how this guy will lead our defense better than Bush would help our offense. He did no such thing at N.C. State (7-5)Team and SC with much help from Bush (12-1).
Against much better Competition than Wake Forest and Mid. Tennesse.
 
Hey everyone, a few of you may all know me from a while back i made an apperance up on your board talkin about a possible trade with orlando pace. Anyway im a rams fan and im not up here to cause trouble but to give you all a little info you Mario. For those of you who think it was a bad pick look at it like this. Andre Johnson. jabar gafney, david carr domonique davis and whoever is in your wr core. the offense for your team is pretty good already. but when david car is gettin sacked a new league record just about every and your pretty good rb is almost gaining a 1000 with 3 ypc then its not the RB. reggie would help out your team and any other but that isnt the need for your team. i can't talk bout the rams D cause its horrible too but our backup burned you all last yr. Mario aint no TO, or offensive guru but he will help boost yall d up alot.

Bush would help but you wouldnt really need him. OL is a big problem for the texans and you all adressed that..what good would it do bush to start at RB and break tackles only if he is in the backfield and car is still gettin sacked. Im a senior at State we were 7-5 this season, i see mario and manny wondering around campus like giants. believe me, he talks about playing all the time and hes dominating when he gives it his all. Defense wins championships not RBs that can do e'ry thing but throw out the kitchen sink..
sorry for being long winded..take care everyone.

Jermaine
go pack!!
 
jermaine133 said:
Hey everyone, a few of you may all know me from a while back i made an apperance up on your board talkin about a possible trade with orlando pace. Anyway im a rams fan and im not up here to cause trouble but to give you all a little info you Mario. For those of you who think it was a bad pick look at it like this. Andre Johnson. jabar gafney, david carr domonique davis and whoever is in your wr core. the offense for your team is pretty good already. but when david car is gettin sacked a new league record just about every and your pretty good rb is almost gaining a 1000 with 3 ypc then its not the RB. reggie would help out your team and any other but that isnt the need for your team. i can't talk bout the rams D cause its horrible too but our backup burned you all last yr. Mario aint no TO, or offensive guru but he will help boost yall d up alot.

Bush would help but you wouldnt really need him. OL is a big problem for the texans and you all adressed that..what good would it do bush to start at RB and break tackles only if he is in the backfield and car is still gettin sacked. Im a senior at State we were 7-5 this season, i see mario and manny wondering around campus like giants. believe me, he talks about playing all the time and hes dominating when he gives it his all. Defense wins championships not RBs that can do e'ry thing but throw out the kitchen sink..
sorry for being long winded..take care everyone.

Jermaine
go pack!!
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Good points.......
 
I don't like the pick. The Texans past on an opportunity to take what I feel will be two of the best offensive players in the NFL for the next 10 years. We'll see who's right.:yahoo:
 
bkimble said:
I don't like the pick. The Texans past on an opportunity to take what I feel will be two of the best offensive players in the NFL for the next 10 years. We'll see who's right.:yahoo:
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I understand your frustration...... but lemme ask you......

which of the best offensive players in the NFL for the last 10 years won the superBowl??

XL Feb. 5, 2006 Hines Ward good, solid, consistant.....not one of the greatest.
XXXIX Feb. 6, 2005 Deion Branch ditto
XXXVIII Feb. 1, 2004 Tom Brady I'll give you Brady... with reservation
XXXVII Jan. 26, 2003 Dexter Jackson Free Safety....
XXXVI Feb. 3, 2002 Tom Brady 7th round draft pick
XXXV Jan. 28, 2001 Ray Lewis LB
XXXIV Jan. 30, 2000 Kurt Warner Undrafted....... K-Mart Stocker
XXXIII Jan. 31, 1999 John Elway actually one of the greatest in the past 30 years
XXXII Jan. 25, 1998 Terrell Davis 4th round draft pick
XXXI Jan. 26, 1997 Desmond Howard Lucky to still be playing
XXX Jan. 28, 1996 Larry Brown who??

Don't get me wrong.......... I'd much rather have had Vince...... But Mario was a good choice......... the right choice.
 
And to add to this list, how many of the big high powered Offenses have won a super bowl in the last ten years? Not many. Superbowl champs are either really balanced or have stifling defenses. The Colts, Cheifs, and Bengals have done next to nothing in the playoffs with their potent offenses. To win a championship, you need a strong defense, not a lightning strike offense.:twocents:
 
I voted no, but I am starting to warm to the Texan’s decision. The first couple of days I felt betrayed like I haven’t felt since Houston’s last team packed their bags and moved. I was never sold on Reggie Bush and wanted us to draft Vince Young (that is the Longhorn fan in me because with an OL I believe Carr can be a real good QB). The more I read about Mario William, the more I am warming to this decision. Now I will just wait and see what transpires over the next few years. If Mario pans out the way I expect (a real solid defensive player and a solid citizen off the field). I will be happy with this pick and if not there will always be another draft next year.
 
Form Mort's chat.

Alex (Los Angeles, Ca): Your the Texans GM would you take Reggie Bush Or Mario WIlliams?

SportsNation Chris Mortensen: (12:08 PM ET ) I would have taken Reggie Bush. However, my eyes were opened two or three weeks ago when ex-Packers GM Ron Wolf said that the six teams he stays in contact with ALL told him Mario Williams was the best player in the draft.

I wonder if these overlap any with the 7 teams Gosselin said had Mario Williams rated at the top of teh board?

I'd really curious to know what teams had Mario rated 1st.
 
Ha Ha Ha!

Why is it so hard for some to accept that Buch may not have been the consenses #1 pick, espically in a league where the talent evaluators have wildly diffeent opions.
 
I liked the pick. I have said all along that I didn't want Bush with the #1. I thought it was too high for a running back, and especially for a part time running back. Not to mention that we already have a very good running back and a young backup that could be even better with more experience. I did want to get Vince young, but I knew that would never happen, so I wanted to trade down. I would have loved to trade down and get Mario or Ferguson, but we just didn't get the offers. If we would have traded down, we wouldn't have been able to get Mario anyway, so I think we did what we had to do to make our team better. In so saying, this was, IMHO, the best pick we could have made.
 
With Ron Wolf saying that, it's very likely/probable that at least one of the teams that had Mario at 1 is the Packers.
 
Initially wanted Reggie

then torn between VY / Reggie - Carr's contract extended, out goes Vince.

then torn between Mario / Reggie - didn't hear much of Mario, but Reggie's comments concerning his knowledge of Houston v. #1 pick weren't the "best" along with earlier comments of wanting to play in NY or SF (hype-a-bility factor)

hearing of not being able to trade down - and if so, now wonder if N.O. would've taken Mario - then who would we have picked?

then the initial shock of hearing Mario was signed, later some comments about what he "knew" about New Orleans, and non-trade up of the Jets, and his recently discovered off the field items, and how he still seems to force the smile (when he was selected by N.O. and then in a scanned article in another post here)

Finally some sleep since the draft and thinking about what was needed, what's been asked for by the fans (before the hype) for years, what was priority of the coaches, what other teams do to build their foundation over the years......

..... at current point, before the season starts - I voted yes.
 
Initially wanted a Trade Down. Never stopped wanting that, but realized early on that it probly wasn't gonna happen.

Excepted the idea of taking Young, partly because of his popularity in Texas, but the very next day Carr got his extension.

Stuck with Bush, since we couldn't Trade Down, after that and still felt that way throughout the draft, but wasn't ever too upset about them taking Williams.

I have felt better and better about Williams ever since, however, and now, this morning, I have seen that Coach Parcells stated that he thought Williams was the best player in the draft. That, along with Bush being unsigned so far and the concern I always had about his durabillity and interior rushing, has brought me to this point where I am glad we took Williams. Of course, nothing has been proven by anyone yet. I have already voted on this pole and I suppose that's the way it should be. My answer right after the draft was "No" or "I wanted Bush" or whatever and that is just what it was.

My "No" was really a "I'm OK with it. I just wouldn't have done it myself," so I didn't have to go very far to change my mind.

I still wanna know what was so wrong with Jimmy Williams' attitude at #33. :)
 
HJam72 said:
I still wanna know what was so wrong with Jimmy Williams' attitude at #33. :)
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not sure if we'll ever find out exactley what was up with Jimmy Williams attitude and how it affected all the teams who passed on his services.

I know from watching him play he seemed to take plays off where DeMeco was always involved in the play. Ryans remindes me of Seattle Seahawk MLB Lofa Tatupu.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Ha Ha Ha!

Why is it so hard for some to accept that Buch may not have been the consenses #1 pick, espically in a league where the talent evaluators have wildly diffeent opions.
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I was a trade down and draft brick guy all off season. All I know for a fact is RB & VY weren't good enough players to generate a 3000 point offer. That's what I know for a fact. We didn't decide that. The NFL collectively decided that. That's good enough for me.

I voted yes with reservations. Will he work as hard as Bruce Smith ? Or is he another Andrey Bruce ? If he's coachable, the sky's the limit on how good he can be. The reason I was a trade down and draft Brick guy is because I truly believe we will never be able to "out gun" Manning. And that's the goal. Sweep the Colts and go to the play offs with a bye.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm getting confused with all these new folks, and some of the old guys, with what went down. I'd like to post this poll, so we can comeback at the end of the season, to see where we stand.

Do you like the pick, or not....... plain and simple. Mario over Reggie.
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OOPs, I guess I didn't read it that well, It wasn't as simple as Reggie vs. Mario. I hated to pick #1 from the get go. I wanted us to trade down and get Mario if available or D'Brick or Vernon Davis or D'Angelo Williams...or (insert needed player here)

I happen to like both Reggie and Mario so it's nothing against them.
 
thunderkyss said:
I understand your frustration...... but lemme ask you......

which of the best offensive players in the NFL for the last 10 years won the superBowl??

XL Feb. 5, 2006 Hines Ward good, solid, consistant.....not one of the greatest.
XXXIX Feb. 6, 2005 Deion Branch ditto
XXXVIII Feb. 1, 2004 Tom Brady I'll give you Brady... with reservation
XXXVII Jan. 26, 2003 Dexter Jackson Free Safety....
XXXVI Feb. 3, 2002 Tom Brady 7th round draft pick
XXXV Jan. 28, 2001 Ray Lewis LB
XXXIV Jan. 30, 2000 Kurt Warner Undrafted....... K-Mart Stocker
XXXIII Jan. 31, 1999 John Elway actually one of the greatest in the past 30 years
XXXII Jan. 25, 1998 Terrell Davis 4th round draft pick
XXXI Jan. 26, 1997 Desmond Howard Lucky to still be playing
XXX Jan. 28, 1996 Larry Brown who??

Don't get me wrong.......... I'd much rather have had Vince...... But Mario was a good choice......... the right choice.
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Same could be said about defense. Which #1 defensive player in college ever won the superbowl? People like to post questions about running back and offensive #1 picks but fail to analyse the same view on defense, but I guess it's because it wouldn't help to make "their" point.
 
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