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Dj to visit W/ the Texans
- Thread starter cptnbreakdance
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Usually I pay pretty close attention to what McCain says, but I'm thinking he got his players confused tonight. Benson is lookin more & more like a fairlyD-ReK said:
average sort of college RB who is durable (something our DD isn't) but is of
limited abiltity who played against a less than steller schedule. DJ got the same easy opposition, but he is gifted and as a Texas native & UT great would be hugely popular here in Houston. Is he the next Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacker, I dunno but I'd rather bet the farm on him that Orlando Pace.
Vinny said:
It became a no-brainer when word leaked out that the Texans told Coleman that he might switch to safety. IIRC, KFFL reported it a couple of weeks before the draft. Don't remember the source they used off-hand, but it hardly matters now. I liked the two LBs, but the Texans showed no sign of interest. Shawn Andrews was out when Todd Wade came in FA. Harris and Wilfork were similarly culled by the Robaire signing. Things were a lot less confused once Mike Williams was out of the draft.
As for the Jags, they locked on WR and reached for Reggie Williams. Wasn't expecting that really, I was expecting them to reach for Udeze instead. If they had taken Dunta, I believe the Texans would have gone into trade-down mode for someone to take Roth.
outofhnd
Rookie
Yea the Sharper release is interesting it tells me he was a bad abrgaining chip and Casserly is goin to resort to other draft day tactics. If we get DJ that would be cool i like his creativity.
It tells me that Williamson is not the pick we are taking and we are going LB this year. When they create an open position they go that way. Last year they did the same thing with switching Robinson to safety.
It tells me that Williamson is not the pick we are taking and we are going LB this year. When they create an open position they go that way. Last year they did the same thing with switching Robinson to safety.
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
Sarg01 said:
Never know. Still say Tennesse takes the left tackle. Now I'm thinking maybe @ 13 ? All the Williamson guys freakin' out right now, just not enough targets for that much money. Just don't see it. I could part with one of the threes to get him. Makes sense. Titans are in cap hades. They will take less than a two for the move up. Fits Bud's pocket book.
Whether the deal works out or not CC and the Texan's have gotta be smilin' right now. I think 13 will be the cat's bird seat this year. We move down we can plug a lot of holes. We get DJ we finally have a playmaker in the Defensive front seven. If Peak and Babs comes around.... never know. All I know for sure is the only way to rattle Manning's cage is with pressure right up the middle. Gonna be fun.
blockhead83
Rookie
If we got DJ, and Matt Jones.....woah. Either we got the deal of the century or we traded away next years draft.
ComstockLode
Waterboy
All this talk is getting my hopes too high and will result in a letdown. Calm down people. More than likely we still stay put and take BPA.
nah i really don't think we'll stay at the 13th pick...casserly will either trade up for DJ if he can get the deal he wants or we'll trade down and pick up more picks just think if we trade down we could end up with this:
1st: david pollack OLB
2nd: matt jones WR
2nd: anttaj hawthorne NT
3rd: ben wilkerson C
3rd: robert mccune ILB
now that's a draft...if we trade up for DJ...personally i don't care if we trade away our entire first day draft picks for him...i think he'll be a pro bowler for years to come just like andre johnson
1st: david pollack OLB
2nd: matt jones WR
2nd: anttaj hawthorne NT
3rd: ben wilkerson C
3rd: robert mccune ILB
now that's a draft...if we trade up for DJ...personally i don't care if we trade away our entire first day draft picks for him...i think he'll be a pro bowler for years to come just like andre johnson
You understand how many teams will have to pass on him for us to get him at 8 or 9. Cleveland is where i will think he will trade up. That would take our whoel draft to get that high. If some reason he does fall past that then we have to worry about the Titans. Thats still alot to give up to trade up 7 spots. our best bet is washington and go 1st and 3rd if we do that. I doubt he will be there at this pick this is not even sayin a team will trade up and get him. I seriously think we can trade down is much more idealistic. Maybe a team like Philly who can give us the #30 and #36 (i think). We can get Blackstock or Burnett at 30 and then get a Brown, white, or a Gibson at the 2nd pick we get. We would still have the 47th pick. We can get a good corner at the pick.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
I think we'll be trading down... though, not many ILBs go in the top of the 1st round. I'd love to see us with a pick around #20, #47, another 2nd rounder, then our two thirds... I think we'd be able to add a quality CB or S, draft a couple of good interior linemen and take a shot at a RB or WR.
ComstockLode
Waterboy
royce1054 said:
If Cleveland passes on him, the next option is either the titans and then the cowboys who would pick him.
i'm really doubting that cleveland drafts him...romeo crennel might be the head coach but he's not the gm...i forget the name of their new GM but he knows that trent dilfer is no long term answer...the other qb's there are a 7th rounder in mccown and a udfa josh harris...both were rookies last year and both need a lot of time before they develop into a solid back up let alone starter...with alex smith there they will draft a QB...the titans will pass on DJ because right now linebacker might be one of the few positions they are ok with...they need serious help at o-line, corner, d-line, reciever, and runningback now that they don't have a reliable back up to chris brown...depending on who is available when they pick they either take the top rated corner, reciever, or OT...my guess is no matter how much they want mike williams he won't be there...personally i think this is too high for barron but when you have a need such as OT you have to pick him when you can...in my mind dj is picked somewhere between arizona and us...and i garentee he won't fall to us...we can trade up to washington right after arizona passes on him and it won't cost us that much...our 1st, 2nd, and one 3rd i think...maybe a day two pick to ensure the deal goes through...giving us DJ and a 3rd rounder left
Cleveland's GM is Phil Savage, and he's actually something of a draft specialist. I agree with your point - I think DJ is only the third most likely player for Cleveland to take. I believe they pick Alex Smith or Braylon Edwards long before they look at DJ, especially at #3 and the salary range associated with it.
I also agree with your remarks on the Titans. While DJ might well be BPA at #6, the Titans have gaping holes at LT, WR and CB - and they'll be able to get their choice of Barron, Rolle or Jones for sure. They even have an outside shot at one of the Big Two wideouts.
I think #9 is a very safe spot. Even if DJ isn't there, Merriman will be.
I also agree with your remarks on the Titans. While DJ might well be BPA at #6, the Titans have gaping holes at LT, WR and CB - and they'll be able to get their choice of Barron, Rolle or Jones for sure. They even have an outside shot at one of the Big Two wideouts.
I think #9 is a very safe spot. Even if DJ isn't there, Merriman will be.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Phil Savage is the Browns GM, and from everything I've heard both he and Crennel have pretty much been in agreement with all the moves they've made thus far in the offseason. I really don't see that mutual agreement changing come draft day, and any picks the Browns make will likely be a joint effort of the two. Savage may have the last word, but I'm sure Romeo will get to toss in his two cents as well. Savage is a good evaluator of talent, and there is definately a drop off of talent from the top 2 QBs and the 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. QBs. How much of a drop off is the more important question. I think you could pick up a good young QB that you could develop in the 2nd or 3rd Round. Guys like Charlie Frye, Jason Campbell, or perhaps Fitzpatrick come to mind. All of whom have garnered some interest from several NFL teams. That being said I wouldn't put it past the Browns to select DJ with their pick. He's a phenomenal talent, and he'd be a great addition to their defense. Since none of us are in the Browns draft room, and none of us have access to their draft board we can't really say for certain that the Browns will or will not take DJ or Smith. In another 20 days or so we'll have the "What will the Browns do?" question resolved, and I, for one, am already anxious to see how the draft plays out. *Starts counting down to Draft Day*
Vinny
shiny happy fan
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cach...as+Pats+answers+for+Browns'+ne<br />eds&hl=en
also there (so take it with a grain)...
thanks to rjf for the find.
TheOgre
All Pro
Vinny said:
You don't think they might plan on putting Wong in Sharper's old spot and move Peek to ROLB? I'm not saying that is a permanent solution, but it is at least a stopgap.
Or do you think Wong will likely remain our ROLB, and we will likely be forced to draft an ILB? I'm thinking they have a plan and that is why they haven't announced where Wong will play next year.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
I think our next mac linebacker comes from this draft. If not, Wong will be the guy unless Cheatwood shows something. The team is going to look at him in multiple positions, but he is not the kind of guy you can pencil in anywhere right now.TheOgre said:
This season puts Peek in his third year at the ROLB. Conventinal thinking is that it takes two seasons before you have a fully transformed DE. This year will determine if he is just a situational pass rusher or a full time 3-4 ROLB.