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Did he really just say that?

CloakNNNdagger said:
I believe the clock stops at the end of a turnover play, whether it ends in bounds or out of bounds.
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I think Ole Miss was mocking the caller for knowing little about the actual rules of football yet thinking enough of themselves to call a show to criticize people who do this for a living.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
And what if Matt did one of his patented "Shitty-Throws-Of-The-Game" and throws a pick?

He was already horribly inaccurate all game.
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This is true, and definitely a risk, but Arizona last year aside, he's generally nails in the last couple of minutes. Also why I'd go for a roll out, which cuts down the reads/options and makes for a pretty simple play, which the Jets had struggled defending all day.
I'm not saying it's not risky, but look at how the "safe" option ended up.
 
run-david-run said:
This is true, and definitely a risk, but Arizona last year aside, he's generally nails in the last couple of minutes. Also why I'd go for a roll out, which cuts down the reads/options and makes for a pretty simple play, which the Jets had struggled defending all day.
I'm not saying it's not risky, but look at how the "safe" option ended up.
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Just because the call didn't work out doesn't mean it was the wrong call. We are a bad team so good percentage plays become less effective, but poor percentage plays, like the ones you are calling for, also take a hit. Its a lose lose situation but Kubiak was in the right in this instance. When we get a more capable head coach he will make this call and no one is going to bat an eyelash.
 
eriadoc said:
Even if you aren't trying for a touchdown, you have to get a first down and run out the clock. If that means calling a pass play, make it a high percentage pass play like a HB or WR screen. Or try a misdirection HB toss or something. You have to do something to get the first down.
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This is the only sensible post I've read regarding that series.
 
if only we had Chris brown to throw a pass :sarcasm:


if we got a first down, it would have been on the goal line so might as well punched it in
 
Corrosion said:
I also think people are taking that statement out of context.



and the guy who didnt franchise tag Pay me Rick .... Or at least find a veteran corner via FA to help fill the void rather than expecting a rookie to be all world.
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I'm watching Champ Bailey & the Denver secondary getting eaten alive.

The rookie doesn't have to be all world.
 
thunderkyss said:
This is the only sensible post I've read regarding that series.

The touchdown wasn't what was important, getting the first down, killing the clock, ending the game. That's what was important, that's what we failed to do, that's what our coaches failed to see.
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Not sure if srs...

Getting a 1st down was not an option. It was 1st and goal from the 10. We either had to score a TD or run 3 plays and try a FG. Either way the Jets were getting the ball again.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Maybe what she really wanted him to do was just run around the field with the Jets offensive players chasing him until the time ran out. Think of the opening to Benny Hill - complete with the music playing over the New Meadowlands PA system.
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With hot women in lingerie!!
 
Originally Posted by eriadoc
Even if you aren't trying for a touchdown, you have to get a first down and run out the clock. If that means calling a pass play, make it a high percentage pass play like a HB or WR screen. Or try a misdirection HB toss or something. You have to do something to get the first down.
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thunderkyss said:
This is the only sensible post I've read regarding that series.

The touchdown wasn't what was important, getting the first down, killing the clock, ending the game. That's what was important, that's what we failed to do, that's what our coaches failed to see.
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It was GOAL TO GO!! Do you people even watch the game?

You run 3 times and make the Jets burn their timeouts. The Jets know you're going to run 3 times because that's what you are supposed to do. And they have a pretty good run defense. I don't think they weren't "trying" to score a TD it's just that the Jets stopped them.

And don't start with the all the more reason to pull out the bag of tricks BS. They did what they were supposed to do. If the defense does what they're supposed to do, nobody is talking about these 3 running plays.
 
Speedy said:
It was GOAL TO GO!! Do you people even watch the game?

You run 3 times and make the Jets burn their timeouts. The Jets know you're going to run 3 times because that's what you are supposed to do. And they have a pretty good run defense. I don't think they weren't "trying" to score a TD it's just that the Jets stopped them.

And don't start with the all the more reason to pull out the bag of tricks BS. They did what they were supposed to do. If the defense does what they're supposed to do, nobody is talking about these 3 running plays.
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Apparently, that's exactly what Kubiak said to Schaub.
 
What we should have done, was go for it on 4th down, hand the ball off to Arian, and let him run the wrong way for 45 seconds, then throw the ball out of bounds.
 
(on people saying he didn’t even want to score a touchdown following the interception and that’s why they continued to run the ball) “We want to score a touchdown every time we run a play. We ran our three best four minute, two-tight plays, where we tighten down the formations. We’re trying to make sure we stay in bounds. The goal was to make them use their timeouts. The other goal, obviously, is if we can score, we want to score. I think we did everything we possibly wanted to do there other than the fact we didn’t score a touchdown. We made them use their timeouts. We gave them the ball back with 49 seconds. We’re up by four. We should win that game.”
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Kubiaks, remarks on his press conference with the media.

so who do we think is telling the whole truth here. According to Kubiak we WERE going for a TD. According to Schaub, Kubiak said we were just wasting the clock and taking a FG.

Perhaps the idea that Kubiak has 'lost' Schaub's confidence, and Schaub is throwing his coach under the bus, so to speak, holds some merit?
 
:thinking: so.. we have a finesse team and we are going to run it against the rush defense of the jets in a "big" formation.

I like the call of running it, but short field 10 yards to go, why not spread that defense out and run it? Hell they knew we were going to run it

(I still have what Matt said on the brain)
 
Wolf said:
:thinking: so.. we have a finesse team and we are going to run it against the rush defense of the jets in a "big" formation.

I like the call of running it, but short field 10 yards to go, why not spread that defense out and run it? Hell they knew we were going to run it

(I still have what Matt said on the brain)
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Just because you think they're a finesse team doesn't mean they are.
 
thegr8fan said:
Kubiaks, remarks on his press conference with the media.

so who do we think is telling the whole truth here. According to Kubiak we WERE going for a TD. According to Schaub, Kubiak said we were just wasting the clock and taking a FG.

Perhaps the idea that Kubiak has 'lost' Schaub's confidence, and Schaub is throwing his coach under the bus, so to speak, holds some merit?
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You know, I thought about Matt throwing him under the bus. I listened again, and he clearly says that is not what was coming through to him (on taking a shot)

It's such a cluster, I don't know what to think anymore.

Here's the link, start listening at the 4 minute mark.

http://kilt.cbslocal.com/2010/11/22/matt-schaub-with-marc-and-john-112210/
 
dream_team said:
Guys, no reason to get angry over this. It's the same thing every coach in the NFL would do. Except maybe Bellicheck? Obviously they preferred a TD over FG. If not, they would have simply kneeled it three times. What Kubiak was simply saying is don't do anything stupid like get out of bounds, turn it over, or thrown an incomplete pass in an effort to try to get a TD. Killing time and timeouts was more valuable than 4 points. I would have been much more angry if they threw an incompletion.
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It may be the percentage play, but killing time isn't worth more than a TD plus a 2 Pt Conversion there. If the Texans do that then the Jets would have had to score a TD and a FG to win.
 
BattleRedToro said:
It may be the percentage play, but killing time isn't worth more than a TD plus a 2 Pt Conversion there. If the Texans do that then the Jets would have had to score a TD and a FG to win.
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I agree if they were to go for 2 and get it to go up by 9. But, I don't think they woulda went for 2 after a TD there.
 
Jackie Chiles said:
Just because the call didn't work out doesn't mean it was the wrong call. We are a bad team so good percentage plays become less effective, but poor percentage plays, like the ones you are calling for, also take a hit. Its a lose lose situation but Kubiak was in the right in this instance. When we get a more capable head coach he will make this call and no one is going to bat an eyelash.
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No, we're a very good offense with a very, very bad defense. This is my whole point. If you're great at one thing and terrible at another, live and die with your strength instead of your weakness.
 
This is one of those situations where most coaches would have done the same thing, and it's still the WRONG choice.
 
I think we should:

Do the onside kick every time.

Use the 2 minute offense all of every game.

Blitz as many it takes to get to the QB, because that's the only thing that works for Ds.

Pay the refs (and make sure we pay them more than the other team does...).
 
thegr8fan said:
Kubiaks, remarks on his press conference with the media.

so who do we think is telling the whole truth here. According to Kubiak we WERE going for a TD. According to Schaub, Kubiak said we were just wasting the clock and taking a FG.

Perhaps the idea that Kubiak has 'lost' Schaub's confidence, and Schaub is throwing his coach under the bus, so to speak, holds some merit?
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I think Kub's best case scenario was to run into the line on 1st and 2nd down burning clock but hoping to score a TD on 3rd down. (I'm hoping that's what he was envisiong at least)

That's why I thought 1st and 2nd down went great, but I would have called a more spread 3 WR spread out offense and let Arian run a draw on 3rd and goal.. but hey, what do I know
 
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