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DET waived Titus Young today

srrono

srrono

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Per @ttwentyman, the #Lions will release WR Titus Young. Young had 33 catches for 383 yards and 4 TDs in 10 games in 2012. 48-607-6 in '11.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ste-no-time-in-parting-ways-with-titus-young/


http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/titus-young/
Base Bonus Cap hit
2013 555,000 452,500 - 1,007,500
2014 645,000 452,500 - 1,097,500
2015 FA

At this low a salary I would grab him and if doesn't show a turn in attitude just cut him later

Look at what CIN did with Vontaze Burfict

Put in a claim for Young.Best case scenario? Has chip on shoulder & excels. At worst cut him.
 
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Vinny said:
total headcase...quit on the team. Don't want him.
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Nailed it in one. When a guy deliberately lines up incorrectly like some five year old child have a temper tantrum I don't think we should touch that with a ten foot pole.
 
classic dufus quote by Young...
“Like I said I never been selfish but if I’m not going to get the football I don’t want to play anymore.”

- Titus Young
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the Patriots pick him up. He has talent, but he needs a good coach to reel him in and keep him focused.

Or maybe he will go to the Bengals or Jets and just turn into an even bigger turd.
 
All I know is the Texans need play makers at WR I am not against drafting WR pulling in vets trading for a WR or even taking a chance on Young as the didstick he is. Right now HOU should be desperate for talent at WR. #KeepNoStoneUnturned
 
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Jeff Risdon ‏@JeffRisdon
Only two places where Titus Young makes sense: Houston and Seattle. HOU b/c he'll get 100+ targets he wants, SEA b/c the Carroll culture 1/2

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2/2 but he's a real misfit in Texans locker room & not sure he'd like the demands of facing those CBs in practice everyday
 
Oh sure. He'd play REAL nice with the two knuckleheads he would need to rely on the most: Kubiak the play caller and Schaub the Quarterback.

I'm sure he would snap within the first game he played here.

If he's THAT bad now, wait til he gets a load of how a WR who is Texans Worthy would be expected to work. LMAO! :chef:
 
I think the kids got talent & we need talent at the position. I'd like to get a vet because I think Kubiak will demand too much off the field behavior stuff before he'll let them on the field. I doubt that would be much different with this guy. Seems like he has some growing up to do & unless he can convince the FO he's willing to grow up fast & put in the work (I really don't know what his work ethic is)..... well he's just not going to get on the field.
 
Scott Bischoff ‏@Bischoff_Scott
I have nothing to back this up other than a hunch. Lions WR Titus Young has an imbalance and is currently resisting or not getting treatment

Scott Bischoff ‏@Bischoff_Scott
I believe the Titus Young situation is similar to Brandon Marshall. Marshall would not be in the NFL today unless he recognized his problems

Scott Bischoff ‏@Bischoff_Scott
And that's the lesson for Titus. Brandon Marshall has given him a blueprint, lets see if he can recognize it and take a similar path.
 
Purposely lining up in the wrong position during multiple plays in one game? You would not find anything T. O. or Ocho Cinco has done all that shocking......unless they would have managed to pull something so egregious to the game of football as Young has. Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.......make that a 20 foot pole. FootballOutsiders ranked him 39th in DVOA (Defense-Adjusted Value Over Average)......right behind Kevin Walters at 38. He also averaged an embarassing 0.94 yards after catch..........5th worst among receivers active on more than 25% of offensive snaps. Jock itch comes to mind.:hankpalm:
 
This dude is a quitter and a loser. I do not want to see him in a Texans uniform.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Purposely lining up in the wrong position during multiple plays in one game? You would not find anything T. O. or Ocho Cinco has done all that shocking......unless they would have managed to pull something so egregious to the game of football as Young has. Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.......make that a 20 foot pole. FootballOutsiders ranked him 39th in DVOA (Defense-Adjusted Value Over Average)......right behind Kevin Walters at 38. He also averaged an embarassing 0.94 yards after catch..........5th worst among receivers active on more than 25% of offensive snaps. Jock itch comes to mind.:hankpalm:
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Kid has talent needs help. I am reading rumors that he has a Bi-polar disorder
 
The lining up problems wasn't the first incident with Young. Young was banned earlier last year from OTAs after sucker-punching a vet on the team. Just what we need for our "chemistry."
 
srrono said:
Kid has talent needs help. I am reading rumors that he has a Bi-polar disorder
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If he were, and shear sociopathy is more likely........he is not an established Brandon Marshal. Young's past actions fit more the diagnosis of sociopath. Sociopathic disorder is a personality disorder, and bipolar disease is a mood disorder. There is good research that points to the fact that bipolar is a grossly over diagnosed conditioned, misdiagnosed for sociopathy, which does not respond to medication or other therapies.........which explains why so many "bipolars" do not respond to proper treatment regimens.

Besides, bipolarity is not typically a "give him a pill and he'll be fine." It takes an element of maturity to understand your problem and the need for both ongoing therapy and medication and monitoring.......something that can take years to accomplish in many cases. The Texans are not of the makeup that they can afford a "project" like this while trying to keep it together themselves........believe me.
 
All the young kid does on the field is score Touchdowns in limited opportunities and would be a huge upgrade for a playoff contender lacking depth at the position. He's young and talented. I think he's worth a chance at picking up for cheap. I'd hate to see him land with one of our rivals in the AFC.
 
THIS is who you would want on YOUR team???

A second-round pick out of Boise State in 2011, Young, 23, fell out of favor with the Lions this season after repeated acts of insubordinate behavior.

He was sent home by the organization three times in a seven-month span starting last May, when he punched teammate Louis Delmas during off-season workouts.

In a November loss to the Green Bay Packers, Young purposely lined up in the wrong spot on the field, and after returning to the team following a week’s absence he was sent home for good when his presence became a distraction in the locker room.
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A game-changing talent whose behavior issues date back to at least his time in college, Young’s problems last season stemmed in part from the fact that he thought he wasn’t getting the ball enough.

His on-field meltdown against the Packers, when he lashed out at former receivers coach Shawn Jefferson on his way off the field, came two weeks after the first 100-yard game of his career.

E.C. Robinson, Young’s high school coach, said Young came to his house on Christmas and the two talked about his problems with the Lions.

“He did tell me he thought he was just as good Megatron,” Robinson recalled late last month. “I said, ‘Titus, come on.’ I said, ‘Come on, man. Who you talking to?’ I said, ‘Come on, you’re as good as that guy? This guy is the real deal.’ And he really believes this. And he was sincere about it. ‘Ah man, I’m better than him.’ I said, ‘No you’re not. Be real man. Come on.’ So I don’t know, I’m hoping for the best for him.”

Robinson and some of Young’s other former coaches, including ex-Boise State assistant Brent Pease, now at Florida, have reached out to Young recently with no success.
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In the show The Sopranos, the therapist says Tony is a sociopath.

Sociopaths are inherently destructive people who seek to undo others for their own personal gain. It is not a chemical imbalance, it's a SOUL issue. The Bible says we have a SOUL and we have a SPIRIT.

The SPIRIT is the Godly part of us, and the SOUL is the earthly part of us. Our soul stays here, our spirit goes...well, to one place or another if you know what I mean. The soul can rule over the spirit if you let it...which is what the Bible refers to as "being fleshly" in our actions.

In cases like Vince Young and Titus Young, you have two persons who for whatever their reasons have decided to let their soul win the battle for their character. Both of them are sociopaths in the sense that they seek to burn things down around them so that they can remain above the rubble.

You don't want a guy like Titus Young on your team. He's too far gone. And even if he were to suddenly claim he's ready to turn it around? Yeah, let him try it with another team first...because at his age, those habits are pretty much ingrained into your psyche. You're made. It's solidified. Unless you have a massive epiphany and revelation one day, and let's face it...those are few and far between.

My two cents.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
If he were, and shear sociopathy is more likely........he is not an established Brandon Marshal. Young's past actions fit more the diagnosis of sociopath. Sociopathic disorder is a personality disorder, and bipolar disease is a mood disorder. There is good research that points to the fact that bipolar is a grossly over diagnosed conditioned, misdiagnosed for sociopathy, which does not respond to medication or other therapies.........which explains why so many "bipolars" do not respond to proper treatment regimens.

Besides, bipolarity is not typically a "give him a pill and he'll be fine." It takes an element of maturity to understand your problem and the need for both ongoing therapy and medication and monitoring.......something that can take years to accomplish in many cases. The Texans are not of the makeup that they can afford a "project" like this while trying to keep it together themselves........believe me.
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His poor impulse control certainly speaks to a personality disorder, although I'm not sure I'd label him a sociopath just yet. Perhaps Narcissistic PD? I agree that bipolar doesn't fit. Marshall is diagnosed Borderline Personality Disorder.

Whatever, the Texans should never be interested in "kicking the tires" on any player who exhibits these types of behaviors. They're team distractors/team killers.
 
Playoffs said:
His poor impulse control certainly speaks to a personality disorder, although I'm not sure I'd label him a sociopath just yet. Perhaps Narcissistic PD? I agree that bipolar doesn't fit. Marshall is diagnosed Borderline Personality Disorder.

Whatever, the Texans should never be interested in "kicking the tires" on any player who exhibits these types of behaviors. They're team distractors/team killers.
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Just like Young has obviously demonstrated throughout his life, a sociopath has no need to be validated by others. Unlike someone with a narcissistic personality disorder, a sociopath has no underlying neediness for others' approval. His remorseless behavior does not come from a deep insecurity, like someone with a narcissist personality disorder. Instead, he wants to exploit others simply for his entertainment and amusement.

I agree whole-heartedly with your final conclusion
 
I am sorry but Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak haven't been brought up enough in this thread to warrant it as a real Texans Talk Offseason Thread®. Maybe a couple more pages will bring more replies badmouthing players and coaches on a football team that was 12-4 last year.
 
b0ng said:
I am sorry but Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak haven't been brought up enough in this thread to warrant it as a real Texans Talk Offseason Thread®. Maybe a couple more pages will bring more replies badmouthing players and coaches on a football team that was 12-4 last year.
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The reason this guy, who's better than Megatron :stonecold:, will never come to this team is because of Gary Kubiak and Matt Schaub. :fingergun:
 
b0ng said:
I am sorry but Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak haven't been brought up enough in this thread to warrant it as a real Texans Talk Offseason Thread®. Maybe a couple more pages will bring more replies badmouthing players and coaches on a football team that was 12-4 last year.
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Stupid Smithiak, should have traded up the waiver wire to get him!!! GAWD WE NEED A REAL GM AND COACH!!!


Better?
 
I wouldnt have touched this guy with a 10 foot pole.

Surprised that Fisher picked him up after the way Young shredded his friend Schwartz.
 
Would Gary Kubiak be willing to sign a player to his team who actually one time sabotaged a former team & teammates on the field of play ? Get serious.
 
I'd bring him in. Not much to lose. Hell hook him up w Royce White and they can do group counseling. A change of scenery might be what this guy needs. We have excellent leaders and a team of role models to help guide him.
 
Evidently Young was all dressed, and had nowhere to go.............except St. Louis. NONE of the other 31 teams even bothered to put in a waiver claim.

Mike Garafolo of USA Today first reported, and PFT has confirmed, that the Rams were the only team to put in a waiver claim for Young today.

When the Lions placed Young on waivers, every NFL team had the opportunity to put in a claim for him, and there’s really no cost associated with having him: If he causes problems or just doesn’t look like a good fit with the team, you can cut him at any point before the start of the regular season without taking a financial hit.

That would seem to make him a tempting player to claim, because Young is a talented receiver: He was a starter for most of his first two seasons after the Lions took him in the second round of the 2011 NFL draft, and he caught 81 passes for 990 yards and 10 touchdowns in 26 games. A 23-year-old who has the proven ability to produce in the passing game like that doesn’t become available very often.

But the risk with Young is that he’ll cause real problems for a team: Young wasn’t just your run-of-the-mill problem child, the kind of guy who shows up late to practice or falls asleep in meetings. Young’s issues included punching a teammate at practice and purposely lining up in the wrong place during a game because he was mad that the Lions’ coaches weren’t calling plays in which he was the primary receiver. A player like that can really damage a team.

So Rams coach Jeff Fisher is taking on a real risk by acquiring Young. A risk that 31 other coaches didn’t want to take.
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I'll take on Vegas that this season, Jeff is more likely to punch out Titus before Titus knows what hit him.:goodpost:
 
I don't know how this will turn out for Fisher, but his chances of success are much better there than here. I can see Fischer putting this kid in his place, Gary not so much even though I hear he's a real cutthroat in your face don't want to cross him kind of guy on the practice field.

Most likely Fisher is going to fail but really what's he got to lose? Its not like Titus can unravel years of work.
 
Ever since Fisher passed on Randy Moss and took Kevin Dyson he has found a way to hire a malcontent at least once a year.
 
I always like to click on these threads and count how many posts until someone suggests we should give him a chance. No matter the player it always happens eventually.
 
The Rams have officially announced the hiring of defensive coordinator Tim Walton. But the tenure of wide receiver Titus Young is over before it started.

League sources have confirmed earlier reports out of Detroit that Young will be cut by the Rams - just nine days after being claimed on waivers by St. Louis from the Lions.

Young had been at Rams Park just a couple of days this week - meeting team coaches and officials, taking a physical, etc. Apparently, that was enough for the Rams to decide it wasn’t going to work.
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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...7-a7bb-ee765c7094d4.html#.UR6FfAmPKX4.twitter
 
Fisher: Are you serious in trying to rehabilitate your sociopathic ways?

Young: Sure.

Fisher: Good, we have you scheduled tomorrow for the first of your series of electroshock therapy sessions.

Young: Ain't gonna happen!

Fisher: Don't let the door hit you in the ass!


More likely, the decision made in this short a period of time, the Rams have had a chance to evaluated his knee, and indeed it requires surgery which he still has not had.


Rotoworld Jan 2
Lions GM Martin Mayhew said Titus Young has yet to undergo knee surgery after he was placed on injured reserve in the first week of December. Head coach Jim Schwartz threw a jab at Young as he was placed on the injured list, saying that the receiver would undergo surgery "unless he doesn't show up for it." So, he either didn't show up or it has yet to be scheduled.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ex-lion-young-arrested-two-014050989--nfl.html
Former Detroit Lions wide receiver Titus Young was arrested twice in 15 hours on Sunday in southern California.
According to a Moreno Valley Police Department report, Young arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence after he made an illegal left turn in front of a patrol vehicle at 12:01 a.m. Sunday. Young was booked into jail and received a citation before he was released.
That afternoon, Young was spotted jumping a fence at a tow company where his Ford Mustang was impounded and arrested for burglary when police determined he was trying to retrieve his car. He again was booked into jail.
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