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DeMeco Ryans traded to Philadelphia

GP said:
Multiple picks. I like it.

I won't cry and piss and moan like so many of you are. What, you thought we'd keep players from 6 years ago and pay them $5 mill-per???

Man, the level of doom and gloom is amazing. I guess there's no reason for Gary and Wade and Rick to even bother attending the draft. According to most, we should sit out the 2012 year altogether.

Pull yourselves together and act like we are finally a successful team who can let an overpriced 6-year vet (or three) go. Geez.
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GP, we've had one successful season out of 6 with this regime, and not only have they not filled any holes, but they're dropping solid vets like crazy.

If Wade wasn't here to run this defense, this team would be really hurting right now under Smithiak. I won't forget what our "overall" record is behind our current leadership.
 
When healty DeMeco is a very valuable play - as the MLB in a 4-3, but not as a part-time ILB in Wades defense, especially at his comp level. Therefor he became expendible. It's just business.
 
Chris Mortensen ‏ @mortreport Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Eagles huge get by trading for Texans LB DeMeco Ryans.

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The Texans will actually receive multiple undisclosed draft picks in return for trading LB DeMeco Ryans to the Eagles. He must pass physical


Could be conditional, which means not this year?
 
Man this one really hurts.

We are trading away a solid veteran AND leader for what? Some green rookie?
I think this trade is a mistake, you can't replace veteran leadership on what is a playoff team.

Texans have built through the draft and now it's like they are trying to do it again when it is not needed.

Unless there's a first involved, I think Meco has been huge for this team and he looked great in the playoffs and I think the only reason he had a average season was because of him recovering from the arm.
 
It sucks to lose leaders and quality guys but if he was not a full time player anymore we could use the draft picks or extra money for FA for more of a 4 down player. It is a smart choice if you have a confidence you can find that type of player. heck todays NFL defense is more nickle than anything so use ther extra money to find a WR or something. I am cool with it.
 
NastyNate said:
For a guy that plays less than 50% of our snaps and is going to collect 6 million this year? It's a perfect move. Although not bad in our 3-4, he's nothing special. Plenty of draft talent that can play at Demeco 2011 level and better for way less coin and who can actually play 60-70% of the snaps.

We're better off for this. Sharpton showed good promise before he tore his quad, and if we target Burfict from ASU, we'll be better off.

Calm down people, this is an excellent trade.
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Excellent trade my ass. I understand what you're saying about his cap money and all, and why we didn't need him as much in this current defense, but Demeco has more value than a mid rounder. He's still a very capable guy who can be a great MLB for any team that runs a 4-3 or any other type of defensive scheme where Demeco's skills fit well. He's still pretty young and also a great team leader. He is 2nd round material.
 
It's all part of the Houston legacy. Build something great, show all the signs of becoming an elite team, then toss it down the crapper.
This town has done this same thing with all their sports teams.
I guess I was a fool to hope that MAYBE the Texans would be any different.
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So much overreaction....

We truly live in an A.D.D. world.

How 'bout everyone wait and see what happens.

We finally get MULTIPLE picks for a guy, an oft-injured guy who counts against the cap, and Rick Smith is an amateur, bungled the cap, and we're "screwed."

We got nothing for Carr, Dunta, Okoye, and Mario...but we get multiple picks for a guy with a messed up shoulder and messed up elbow who also blew an achilles, too, and THAT single move "proves" Rick Smith is a goat????

Continue with the funeral dirge, guys and gals.
 
netting only a 4th
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Eagles announce they acquire Ryans for a 4th round pick and the clubs also swap 3rd rounders #freeagency
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Lucky said:
OK, that made me laugh.

There was rumor last week (or the week before) that Ryans would be cut. Instead, the Texans get a draft choice. If a 4th is the best they could get, and were dumping Ryans' salary anyway, I'm not sure how the trade can be bashed on the merits of "not getting enough".
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Same here. If he couldn't/wouldn't take a paycut he was going to end up getting cut. I'm glad we got something for him and I'm sad to see him go, but until we know the exact details of the deal I think it's tough to logically conclude that this was good or bad by Smith.

The "leader" of the defense is the guys that are out there every play (Watt, Cushing, Smith, Joseph), Demeco was the leader of the defense before that horrific injury in 2010. I do think that the job is basically Sharpton's to lose.
 
GP said:
So much overreaction....

We truly live in an A.D.D. world.

How 'bout everyone wait and see what happens.

We finally get MULTIPLE picks for a guy, an oft-injured guy who counts against the cap, and Rick Smith is an amateur, bungled the cap, and we're "screwed."

We got nothing for Carr, Dunta, Okoye, and Mario...but we get multiple picks for a guy with a messed up shoulder and messed up elbow who also blew an achilles, too, and THAT single move "proves" Rick Smith is a goat????

Continue with the funeral dirge, guys and gals.
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hard to win when you get rid of the talent. So far we have lost 4 starters and added a 4th round pick for a project TE I assume.
 
Not lovin' it. A 4th? And moving up just 13 spots in the third round? Not a good trade. A necessary one, perhaps, but not a good one.
 
GP said:
So much overreaction....

We truly live in an A.D.D. world.

How 'bout everyone wait and see what happens.

We finally get MULTIPLE picks for a guy, an oft-injured guy who counts against the cap, and Rick Smith is an amateur, bungled the cap, and we're "screwed."

We got nothing for Carr, Dunta, Okoye, and Mario...but we get multiple picks for a guy with a messed up shoulder and messed up elbow who also blew an achilles, too, and THAT single move "proves" Rick Smith is a goat????

Continue with the funeral dirge, guys and gals.
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When did you become a Rick Smith fan?? I'm trying to wrap my head around this one GP, because I thought you couldn't stand the guy for years unless my memory is failing me.


This has nothing to do with one single move. It's the lack of moves for years until last season when Wade came in, and the fact that he's never really been a guy that any other team would have wanted. He was just some office guy that was Kubiak's buddy from Denver. He is no different than the stuges Kubiak dragged out here to be our defensive coordinators that stunk up the team. You have to remember that those failures were just as much on Smith as they were on Kubiak.
 
GP said:
So much overreaction....

We truly live in an A.D.D. world.

How 'bout everyone wait and see what happens.

We finally get MULTIPLE picks for a guy, an oft-injured guy who counts against the cap, and Rick Smith is an amateur, bungled the cap, and we're "screwed."

We got nothing for Carr, Dunta, Okoye, and Mario...but we get multiple picks for a guy with a messed up shoulder and messed up elbow who also blew an achilles, too, and THAT single move "proves" Rick Smith is a goat????

Continue with the funeral dirge, guys and gals.
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You're one to talk with your overactive speculations and your essay-long diatribe on every single other ****ing topic.

Carr, Okoye, Dunta, and Mario meant nowhear NEAR as much to this team COMBINED as DeMeco did.

Obviously you missed the second half of last season where he finally bounced back to form.

Ridiculous.
 
Eagles just pulled a fast one on the Texans. I'm sorry but DeMeco Ryans was the true leader and captain of our defense. Need I remind you what happened when DeMeco went down with a season-ending ACL injury early in the 2010 season? The entire defense fell apart without his leadership, and we went from a 3-1 team to a 6-10 team that ranked at the bottom in every important defensive category.

I am very upset right now. Unless it's a second-round pick and an effort to clear more cap space to go after Mike Wallace -- making him an offer the Steelers can't match, I don't understand this trade one bit. Now if they added Mike Wallace and gave up their 26th pick in the first round to Pittsburgh, then the extra draft pick from the Eagles makes sense.
 
Vinny said:
Duane Brown unhappy
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I doubt he is the first.

I understand he may not have fit in the 3-4 perfectly...but he fit well enough for this team to be a top 3 defense in the NFL.

He was happy and willing enough to learn and I think he got better each game and when the playoffs rolled around he was all over the place.

We better hope we can draft a player of Demeco's talent. It really sucks they part ways with him like this.
 
Vinny said:
Duane Brown unhappy
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I know that they're all professionals, but my biggest concern is what type of impact this is going to have on the team's morale. Demeco was a huge part of this team, on & off the field. I remember all too clear what happened when cut a bunch of our veteran players one offseason when Capers was here. We tanked the next year & he was fired. Hopefully we'll have a different outcome this time. I'm worried though......
 
Vinny said:
ugh, I'm starting to get pessimistic on this season. I don't like where we are headed so far.
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Don't worry. We will build through the draft and be back in the playoffs in another six years. Maybe 4-5 since Kubes has done it once now and has experience.
 
GP said:
So much overreaction....

We truly live in an A.D.D. world.

How 'bout everyone wait and see what happens.

We finally get MULTIPLE picks for a guy, an oft-injured guy who counts against the cap, and Rick Smith is an amateur, bungled the cap, and we're "screwed."

We got nothing for Carr, Dunta, Okoye, and Mario...but we get multiple picks for a guy with a messed up shoulder and messed up elbow who also blew an achilles, too, and THAT single move "proves" Rick Smith is a goat????

Continue with the funeral dirge, guys and gals.
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Disagree. DeMeco is worth at least a 2nd round. But all we are getting, it appears, is a fourth.
 
Cjeremy635 said:
I know that they're all professionals, but my biggest concern is what type of impact this is going to have on the team's morale. Demeco was a huge part of this team, on & off the field. I remember all too clear what happened when cut a bunch of our veteran players one offseason when Capers was here. We tanked the next year & he was fired. Hopefully we'll have a different outcome this time. I'm worried though......
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And THAT'S why this trade is ****ing awful. When the 27 year old team leader gets dealt for a ****ing 4th round pick, its going to cause rifts.
 
I'm disappointed that all we got was a 4th and switch of our 3rd's but overall I like this trade. At least we got something for him before we cut him next year as a salary cap issue.
 
Allstar said:
Here's to hoping we can have another strong draft
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I don't F'n understand why this team always lets solid vets walk away.

Especially a guy like Demeco who was loved here by his teammates and fans and seemed willing to play here DESPITE not playing 3rd downs you hardly ever hear him complain about it.

This team is relying TOO much on the draft. Which is fine if you are not a team that people are expecting to come out of the AFC.

You don't see the Ravens trading Ray Lewis do you? (yes I know Demeco is no Ray, but the situation is kinda the same)
 
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The Texans must have a list of players that our untouchable core. I'd Say:

Schaub
Foster
AJ
Brown
Myers

Cushing
Watt
Barwin
Joseph
Smith
Reed
Quin (maybe)

Everyone else, they are looking to upgrade, or are willing to part with if their cap number is too large.
 
Texecutioner said:
Excellent trade my ass. I understand what you're saying about his cap money and all, and why we didn't need him as much in this current defense, but Demeco has more value than a mid rounder. He's still a very capable guy who can be a great MLB for any team that runs a 4-3 or any other type of defensive scheme where Demeco's skills fit well. He's still pretty young and also a great team leader. He is 2nd round material.
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Now Tex, you've been really adamant about how "bad" Rick Smith is.

He's not young and he's been through a blown achilles, a bum shoulder, and a bum elbow. AND he's a helluva' lot more expensive than what we'll draft to replace him with.

The defense we had in 2011 includes major contributions by two rookies and several guys like Barwin and Cushing who are, IIRC, 3-year guys vs. the 6-year guys we're cutting (due to multiple reasons, not "just" the cap implications).

We have to stay young. Period. And this move gave us multiple picks we can use or bundle to stay young AND make sure we get good value.

Sometimes I think everyone has this expectation that we've arrived and should not risk anything. That 2011 defense cost a nice penny, and it's just part of the price of success.

I have faith that Wade is going to identify and find the guys he needs to offset the loss of Mario (which I think is already on our roster) and DeMeco (which I think is in the draft).

I'm only offering the rebuttal to the majority opinion here. I don't think it's as bad as people think.
 
Rick Smith confirming his amateur ways. It should have been a second round pick. Or a third and a fourth. The Eagles made out like bandits. It's like we are going through a rebuilding year. This team has done nothing yet.
 
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