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Demeco Ryans Signed

texanfan2002114

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signing his deal according to Mark Berman on Fox 26 tonight here in houston. While one of the stories going on Mark took a call on his cell and reported it right at the end. He said the deal could be done as soon as tomorrow.
 
With all we've heard about Ryans' intelligence, I'm sure he understands how important it is to get to camp on time. He won't cry over nickles. This guy is going to be a fan favorite for years to come.
 
A good and important signing for the team. As usual, the Texans seem to be lining up their drafties as fast or faster than just about any other team.
 
edo783 said:
A good and important signing for the team. As usual, the Texans seem to be lining up their drafties as fast or faster than just about any other team.
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The Bears have already signed all their picks and I think we have at least two guys to go.
 
edo783 said:
A good and important signing for the team. As usual, the Texans seem to be lining up their drafties as fast or faster than just about any other team.
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I do like how quickly we act with our players, that is, as long as we are not overpaying so quickly for our players.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
signing his deal according to Mark Berman on Fox 26 tonight here in houston. While one of the stories going on Mark took a call on his cell and reported it right at the end. He said the deal could be done as soon as tomorrow.
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Thanks for the heads up Steve!
 
mexican_texan said:
The Bears have already signed all their picks and I think we have at least two guys to go.
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My info has Mario as the only 1st round pick signed so far. Where you get your info from?
 
HeroTime said:
My info has Mario as the only 1st round pick signed so far. Where you get your info from?
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I know that i saw of Fox last week sometime that Berman said that Owen Daniels and Wali Lundy had signed or were close to signing. I will try to find a link.
 
HeroTime said:
My info has Mario as the only 1st round pick signed so far. Where you get your info from?
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Da Bears didn't own a 1st round pick after a draft day trade with Buffalo. It's a little easier to get all of your picks signed when you don't have to ink a 1st rounder.
 
I think when we see things like our team not having a problem with signing players alot of it has to be attributed to the fact our #1 pick is always signed right away.

Not to make this a Bush/Williams thread but you do see that our #1 pick has set the bar for the other picks to sign and get in.

If we got Bush he would still be holding out. This would probably mean the other agents for the other picks would want to see how much we want to spend also.
 
El Tejano said:
I think when we see things like our team not having a problem with signing players alot of it has to be attributed to the fact our #1 pick is always signed right away.

Not to make this a Bush/Williams thread but you do see that our #1 pick has set the bar for the other picks to sign and get in.

If we got Bush he would still be holding out. This would probably mean the other agents for the other picks would want to see how much we want to spend also.
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The funny thing is Bush probably won't come close to getting what Mario did. IMO, NO can't afford him. They'll probably include a goal bonus like they did Ricky Williams.:chicken:
 
If I were them I would really be concerned about that hamstring. Seems like that could be a reoccuring issue.

To not make this a bush thread though. I just think that not only did they get signable player but 3 out of the six could've gone in the first round.
 
Great news that Demeco is close to signing. Thanks for the info. Now that teams are starting to get draft picks signed I can't help but be pleased that we passed on Bush. Now don't read anything in to the statement. I'll be the first to admit that on that friday night while listening to sports radio I heard the news Mario was signed I was sooooooo mad.(I like everyone though Bush was the real deal) Now we have had months to break it down and discuss it I am convinced Kubs did the right thing taking Mario.(Though it will take years to convice some people) Now NO has a real problem and we don't. With all the changes taking place in the Texans org. a draft hold out (by your first rounder) would only be a distraction this club does not need to deal with.We get to go into TC with one think on the players mind WINNING learning Kubs sys. and compeating in every game. Man I can't wait for the season to begin. Thanks again for the info please post when the ink hits the paper.
 
Bush would have been signed by now if we took him at #1, they were supposed to be very close to a deal with him and about ready to sign him but they decided Mario was the guy they wanted more so they completed negotiations with him and signed him.
 
MorKnolle said:
Bush would have been signed by now if we took him at #1, they were supposed to be very close to a deal with him and about ready to sign him but they decided Mario was the guy they wanted more so they completed negotiations with him and signed him.
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Believe nothing what you hear and only half of what you see.

If you believe they were close to signing Reggie, you probably believe Casserly left on his own. Do you think an owner of a team is going to say a guy wants too much money and hurt his chances in the draft and in negotiations? I think not, that is just bad business practice.

It's like an interview for job, there are white lies all over the place or just simply putting the spin on it by really saying nothing at.

Another rule, particularly here in Hollywood, perception is everything, reality is nothing.
 
Tx'nFanLostInSkinCountry said:
Great news that Demeco is close to signing. Thanks for the info. Now that teams are starting to get draft picks signed I can't help but be pleased that we passed on Bush. Now don't read anything in to the statement. I'll be the first to admit that on that friday night while listening to sports radio I heard the news Mario was signed I was sooooooo mad.(I like everyone though Bush was the real deal) Now we have had months to break it down and discuss it I am convinced Kubs did the right thing taking Mario.(Though it will take years to convice some people) Now NO has a real problem and we don't. With all the changes taking place in the Texans org. a draft hold out (by your first rounder) would only be a distraction this club does not need to deal with.We get to go into TC with one think on the players mind WINNING learning Kubs sys. and compeating in every game. Man I can't wait for the season to begin. Thanks again for the info please post when the ink hits the paper.
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Bush would have been signed by Saturday morning if we had chosen him. We were very close on numbers 3 days before. the Texans were the ones who broke off negiotions, and signability had zero to do with us taking Mario. I still think Bush was the right choice but time will tell.
 
Porky said:
Bush would have been signed by Saturday morning if we had chosen him. We were very close on numbers 3 days before. the Texans were the ones who broke off negiotions, and signability had zero to do with us taking Mario. I still think Bush was the right choice but time will tell.
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I totally disagree. I think McNair didn't pick Bush for three reasons:

1. NCAA investigation, which has been very quiet. But this thing is going to heat up and get ugly in the next couple of months.

2. Couldn't get him signed - This is obvious. Never in Bush's career will he have leverage to negotiate a contract like he does now. James and Alexander went through many years in the league and being Franchised before they got a contract of $50 million plus. If Reggie doesn't live up to expectations, he will be taking a pay cut after his rookie contract. That is how the running back position is valued. On the other hand, Carr can play average the next three years and he will get a pay increase, go figure. QBs are harder to find and replace. RBs are a dime a dozen and you only need a 1,000 yard back or so to be competitive and can spend big money in other areas, say like defensive end.

3. We didn't need another RB - Reggie has amazing talent, but it isn't required to win a Super Bowl and there are other positions more difficult to fill, and likewise more expensive. Examples, left tackle, defensive end, quarterback, and I would also say a hard hitting safety that can play like a linebacker too.

Obvisously, McNair is never going to discuss items 1 and 2. That would be bad business etiquette and bad mouthing Bush.

Bush will not be signed by training camp, that is my prediction and I said it before the draft. There is three weeks left before training camp. I have tried to find updates, can someone please provide a link on Reggie's contract status.
 
hollywood_texan said:
I totally disagree. I think McNair didn't pick Bush for three reasons:

1. NCAA investigation, which has been very quiet. But this thing is going to heat up and get ugly in the next couple of months.

2. Couldn't get him signed - This is obvious. Never in Bush's career will he have leverage to negotiate a contract like he does now. James and Alexander went through many years in the league and being Franchised before they got a contract of $50 million plus. If Reggie doesn't live up to expectations, he will be taking a pay cut after his rookie contract. That is how the running back position is valued. On the other hand, Carr can play average the next three years and he will get a pay increase, go figure. QBs are harder to find and replace. RBs are a dime a dozen and you only need a 1,000 yard back or so to be competitive and can spend big money in other areas, say like defensive end.

3. We didn't need another RB - Reggie has amazing talent, but it isn't required to win a Super Bowl and there are other positions more difficult to fill, and likewise more expensive. Examples, left tackle, defensive end, quarterback, and I would also say a hard hitting safety that can play like a linebacker too.

Obvisously, McNair is never going to discuss items 1 and 2. That would be bad business etiquette and bad mouthing Bush.

Bush will not be signed by training camp, that is my prediction and I said it before the draft. There is three weeks left before training camp. I have tried to find updates, can someone please provide a link on Reggie's contract status.
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Gary Kubiak was the one that made the decision, McNair just had to sign off on it.

As for Reggie's contract status, he isn't signed as of now and that's about the only real news on it.
 
MorKnolle said:
Gary Kubiak was the one that made the decision, McNair just had to sign off on it.
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McNair is a lot more involved in the decision making process than you think. He isn't just a rubber stamp.

There is an article about the Buchanon trade and how that whole thing was screwed up from the beginning. McNair said he was going to be intimately involved in all major decisions, albeit from a management perspective.

He used the words of "due diligence" on all major deals. The three points I listed are "due diligence" items McNair would address before signing off.
 
hollywood_texan said:
McNair is a lot more involved in the decision making process than you think. He isn't just a rubber stamp.

There is an article about the Buchanon trade and how that whole thing was screwed up from the beginning. McNair said he was going to be intimately involved in all major decisions, albeit from a management perspective.

He used the words of "due diligence" on all major deals. The three points I listed are "due diligence" items McNair would address before signing off.
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Yes, McNair did have a say in it, but Kubiak and McNair are on the same page when it comes to building this team and bottom line if his coach really wanted one player over the other then McNair's going to make it happen.
 
Would any of you say that McNair is as hands on an owner as Snyder in the NFL or Mark Cuban in the NBA? I'm not sure where I fall on this subject. I like Cuban but can't stand Snyder( he just seems like a punk). Might be a good topic for a new thread.
 
MorKnolle said:
Yes, McNair did have a say in it, but Kubiak and McNair are on the same page when it comes to building this team and bottom line if his coach really wanted one player over the other then McNair's going to make it happen.
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Well, maybe you are right. But, I have a different view on it though and think McNair is running more of the show, CEOs just don't lay back like that in my opinion.

More importantly though, it does appear Kubiak and McNair are the same page.
 
hollywood_texan said:
I totally disagree. I think McNair didn't pick Bush for three reasons:

1. NCAA investigation, which has been very quiet. But this thing is going to heat up and get ugly in the next couple of months.

2. Couldn't get him signed - This is obvious. Never in Bush's career will he have leverage to negotiate a contract like he does now. James and Alexander went through many years in the league and being Franchised before they got a contract of $50 million plus. If Reggie doesn't live up to expectations, he will be taking a pay cut after his rookie contract. That is how the running back position is valued. On the other hand, Carr can play average the next three years and he will get a pay increase, go figure. QBs are harder to find and replace. RBs are a dime a dozen and you only need a 1,000 yard back or so to be competitive and can spend big money in other areas, say like defensive end.

3. We didn't need another RB - Reggie has amazing talent, but it isn't required to win a Super Bowl and there are other positions more difficult to fill, and likewise more expensive. Examples, left tackle, defensive end, quarterback, and I would also say a hard hitting safety that can play like a linebacker too.

Obvisously, McNair is never going to discuss items 1 and 2. That would be bad business etiquette and bad mouthing Bush.

Bush will not be signed by training camp, that is my prediction and I said it before the draft. There is three weeks left before training camp. I have tried to find updates, can someone please provide a link on Reggie's contract status.
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You could be right on #1, and #3. I'm not sure we will ever know all of the behind the scenes details on those items. However, on #2, multiple sources indicated signability was not a factor. So, either numerous folks are lying, or you are wrong. I will go with the sources myself. :ok:
 
hollywood_texan said:
Well, maybe you are right. But, I have a different view on it though and think McNair is running more of the show, CEOs just don't lay back like that in my opinion.

More importantly though, it does appear Kubiak and McNair are the same page.
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CEO's are prbably less proactive than you think. They surround themselves with talented people who do the hard stuff. A good manager doesn't have to be an expert in all aspects of a given job. He has to be an expert at picking experts and giving them the resources to accomplish the tasks they are given and manage the ego's that come with being an expert.
 
HOU-TEX said:
The funny thing is Bush probably won't come close to getting what Mario did. IMO, NO can't afford him. They'll probably include a goal bonus like they did Ricky Williams.
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I wouldn't take this option, especially if the reason the team did it is because of money problems, (I'm not being evil, just reasonable) because then the GM could just tell the coach to deliberately sabotage Bush of getting just short of his goal bonus (Not saying it will happen and not trying to start a conspiracy, but if a team decided they had to have this kind of contract for their star in order to afford him then they may decide to save a little money by making sure they don't have to empty the bank while still reaping the benifits) I'd feel safer with a little smaller contract of guaranteed money than a larger goal bonus one.

Sorry for continuing the off-topic discussion, forgive me.:brickwall

Great news about Demeco :redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel:
 
Porky said:
However, on #2, multiple sources indicated signability was not a factor. So, either numerous folks are lying, or you are wrong.
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I don't think folks are lying. It's like Casserly leaving on his own. Everyone knows he had to hit the door.

There are just some things that are not discussed publicly because it is bad etiquette and can only hurt the other party in future negotiations. It likes playing :poker: .

But, even after saying that, you could be right, maybe they were really close. We may never know.

If you find a very credible source on this topic, I would like to hear it.
 
It's official


The Texans made no secret about what their top priority in this year’s draft was. By spending the first overall selection on defensive end Mario Williams and their second pick on linebacker DeMeco Ryans, Houston put defense at the top of their offseason priority list. Friday, they waited no longer to make it official by inking Ryans and in the process becoming the only NFL team to have their top two picks under contract. It’s something that can’t be overstated according to Texans general manager Rick Smith.
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2655
 
I too don't think we'll ever know about the signability of Bush, but Dan Reeves who was our consultant at the time indicated that Reggie was going to be VERY hard to sign.

In addition, Reggie was going to need to wring every last dollar out of this rookie contract that he could. His value as a RB will never be higher. Elite and proven RB's in the NFL have a hard time getting their blockbuster deals done.

The character and need issues may have been the driving force behind selecting Williams, but he ability to get him into camp on time was a factor in the thought process.

Go Texans
 
hollywood_texan said:
I don't think folks are lying. It's like Casserly leaving on his own. Everyone knows he had to hit the door.

There are just some things that are not discussed publicly because it is bad etiquette and can only hurt the other party in future negotiations. It likes playing :poker: .

But, even after saying that, you could be right, maybe they were really close. We may never know.

If you find a very credible source on this topic, I would like to hear it.
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Etiquette and negotiation are big words coming from a guy with rock&roll stars on his avatar!!!! Other than that, good post!!!
 
mexican_texan said:
The Bears have already signed all their picks and I think we have at least two guys to go.
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Is this accurate? I saw something on another thread, or this one...who knows, that said we have two of our picks signed and we are the first in the league to sign that many.
 
El Tejano said:
I think when we see things like our team not having a problem with signing players alot of it has to be attributed to the fact our #1 pick is always signed right away.

Not to make this a Bush/Williams thread but you do see that our #1 pick has set the bar for the other picks to sign and get in.

If we got Bush he would still be holding out. This would probably mean the other agents for the other picks would want to see how much we want to spend also.
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Exactly! Way to go Saints....you guys keep running that franchise.
 
MorKnolle said:
Bush would have been signed by now if we took him at #1, they were supposed to be very close to a deal with him and about ready to sign him but they decided Mario was the guy they wanted more so they completed negotiations with him and signed him.
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I wouldn't necessarily count on that. Alot of things were said about that but there's no proof. I think it's just as likely a case of the Texans having seen the writing on the wall with Bush and backing out.
 
DocBar said:
Would any of you say that McNair is as hands on an owner as Snyder in the NFL or Mark Cuban in the NBA? I'm not sure where I fall on this subject. I like Cuban but can't stand Snyder( he just seems like a punk). Might be a good topic for a new thread.
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McNair is involved with the big picture. He doesn't own a team in Dallas.
 
Historyhorn said:
I too don't think we'll ever know about the signability of Bush, but Dan Reeves who was our consultant at the time indicated that Reggie was going to be VERY hard to sign.
In addition, Reggie was going to need to wring every last dollar out of this rookie contract that he could. His value as a RB will never be higher. Elite and proven RB's in the NFL have a hard time getting their blockbuster deals done.
The character and need issues may have been the driving force behind selecting Williams, but he ability to get him into camp on time was a factor in the thought process.
Go Texans
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I dunno, but I think how Bush does is going to be very interesting just to see if he's anything like many have claimed him to be. And don't ever
lose sight of one of his biggest assets, his versitility. Many have said he'd be
a 1st round, maybe even top 10 pick had he been just a WR. He may be rare
like the ESPN hype machine keeps saying ?
Then again he may not be. Perhaps just another Warren Dunn who is good,
but anything but one for the ages as many Bush fans say Reggie will be in the NFL ?
 
I love the term "nasty competitor". Gonna be a few opponents wearing their jocks around their ears after Ryans lays a lick on 'em.
 
I think we'll get everyone signed plenty fast...all we need to sign are Eric Winston, Charles Spencer, and David Anderson (he's definately going to have to earn his signing but I'm sure he'll get signed to get a chance to make the team).
 
Historyhorn said:
In addition, Reggie was going to need to wring every last dollar out of this rookie contract that he could. His value as a RB will never be higher.
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Agreed. Pretty much the reason why you pass on a RB or QB with the #1 in my opinion.
 
Extremely excited that Demeco is official. What was that Bogart line? "This is the beginning of something special." ????
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Extremely excited that Demeco is official. What was that Bogart line? "This is the beginning of something special." ????
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Dude. You just used Bogart and bogart in the same month. I am not sure that is legal.

:D

( at least I think it was you, I could be wrong though )
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Does anybody know what he was signed for?? Or how long it is going to take before we know how much he was signed for?
 
Texans | Ryans' deal worth $5 million
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Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans rookie LB DeMeco Ryans' deal is a four-year, $5 million contract. Specific financial details were not disclosed.
 
very happy about the signing & the fact Rick Smith got his feet wet with such a positive beginning :)

just my rambling thoughts, these contracts in football seem like a steal compared to the other major sports leagues (NBA, MLB). for what the NFL players sacrifice and endure is certainly second to none, not to mention the fact these guys are freaks of nature in size, speed & strength.

maybe just maybe this is why the NFL has been so wildly successful the football players are more inline with working folks/the fans creating a closer relationship and more compassion from its constituency.

Demeco Ryans is an excellent signing, the Texans know what they're doing & the NFL continues to out maneuver its counterparts for the biggest share of the pie :money:
 
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