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Defensive Coordinator Speculation

TEXANS84

TEXANS84

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Heard on this morning while listening to Sports Radio 610 about the possiblilty of R.C. Slocum being a possible defensive coordinator candidate.


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Remember, the guy is responsible for the 91' "Wrecking Crew" defense:

The Wrecking Crew defense finished the season ranked No. 1 by the NCAA in total defense (222.4 yards per game) and in passing defense (136.4 yards per game). The defense finished No. 7 nationally in points allowed (13.1) and in No. 4 in rushing defense (86.0).

Some of the records set by the ’91 defense that still stand are:

Most sacks in a season (56)

Most sack yardage in a season (388 yards)

Most average sacks per game (5.1)

Fewest completions allowed in game (0 vs. Arkansas)
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http://www.aggieathletics.com/pressRelease.php?PRID=10201

Thoughts?
 
TEXANS84 said:
Heard on this morning while listening to Sports Radio 610 about the possiblilty of R.C. Slocum being a possible defensive coordinator candidate.


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Remember, the guy is responsible for the 91' "Wrecking Crew" defense:



http://www.aggieathletics.com/pressRelease.php?PRID=10201

Thoughts?
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It wouldn't bother me a bit. I think RC is the main reason the Aggies have more players in the NFL than Texas. He coaches his players to prepare them for the NFL. The last few years, he just didn't recruit enough talent to get the job done.
 
I'm all for having this guy as our DC. Guy produces a solid D. Anybody is better than Fangio, or however you spell it.
 
All I know about RC is that he is an class guy that had some great defenses in college. I do not know anything about his defensive philosophy.

All I can say is that I hope this does not incite any wrecking crew chants. It is arguably the lamest chant and hand symbol I have ever seen.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
All I know about RC is that he is an class guy that had some great defenses in college. I do not know anything about his defensive philosophy.

All I can say is that I hope this does not incite any wrecking crew chants. It is arguably the lamest chant and hand symbol I have ever seen.
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He ran the 3-4 at A&M.

Do you always have to throw something negative in every post you make??? Of course, I am an Ag, but if you are an opposing team that gets stuffed by the D, and the crowd starts chanting this so loud you can't hear yourself think...

I like it. Better than the sitting on the hands crowd we see at many a football stadiums nowadays...
 
Jack Bauer said:
He ran the 3-4 at A&M.

Do you always have to throw something negative in every post you make??? Of course, I am an Ag, but if you are an opposing team that gets stuffed by the D, and the crowd starts chanting this so loud you can't hear yourself think...

I like it. Better than the sitting on the hands crowd we see at many a football stadiums nowadays...
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The subject is Slocum, where was I negative in my post about the speculation on the subject?
 
Kaiser Toro said:
The subject is Slocum, where was I negative in my post about the speculation on the subject?
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Where in my post did I say you were negative about the speculation on the subject? I asked why you had to throw something negative in every post you make. I know this is not fact (not EVERY post), but you do it so often, it seems that way.
 
I heard the same comment on the radio on my drive into work this morning. I don't know much about RC, but I believe we are putting together a great staff of coaches. I am optomistic about this upcoming year and down the road from that even. I know this might be far fetched, but I get the feeling that this staff will eventually be a talented staff and one that people are going to look at down the road just as they look at previous "dream team" coaching staffs that Gruden, Holmgren, Shanahan, and others sprouted off of. Old 49er staffs and such.:yahoo: :ok:
 
Jack Bauer said:
Where in my post did I say you were negative about the speculation on the subject? I asked why you had to throw something negative in every post you make. I know this is not fact (not EVERY post), but you do it so often, it seems that way.
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Negativity is your perception. My posts are are nothing more than to foster debate, entertainment value (most often for myself), my own unfounded takes as a fan and to play devil's advocate in order for me to gather as much information on both sides to form an opinion.

You can easily put me on your ignore list if you do not see the value or do not like the volume in my posts.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Negativity is your perception. My posts are are nothing more than to foster debate, entertainment value (most often for myself), my own unfounded takes as a fan and to play devil's advocate in order for me to gather as much information on both sides to form an opinion.

You can easily put me on your ignore list if you do not see the value or do not like the volume in my posts.
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Just noting what I see. I value your opinions and would not put you on ignore. I just think sometimes you are too negative and yes, I know, this is my perception.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
All I know about RC is that he is an class guy that had some great defenses in college. I do not know anything about his defensive philosophy.

All I can say is that I hope this does not incite any wrecking crew chants. It is arguably the lamest chant and hand symbol I have ever seen.
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We don't want to have anything to do with the name wrecking crew. We don't want A&M filing a lawsuit against us.
 
TexanBacker93 said:
We don't want to have anything to do with the name wrecking crew. We don't want A&M filing a lawsuit against us.
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I don't care who you are that's funny! (Coming from an Ag!) Of course, I do have to comment that under trademark law, TAMU is required to defend its trademark.
 
I know alot about Slocum he was the one who recruited me. He is a class guy and task master. He does not take any crap and he expects you to give your best on every play whether walk through or game or just film session. Possibly the greatest coach I ever had. He runs an attacking 3-4 defense similar to Pittsburgh's blitz packages, but does some Patriot style coverages. Mainly press man, but some slide zones and shades to help out the safties. Corners are expected to blitz often and He stresses and I do mean stresses angles when attacking. "a good angle can make the most athletic seem like a F-ing practice squadder" I got this yelled at me many a time. I dont think he will become our DC, but it would be great if he was brought in to coach LBs or as a consultant to the HC on Defense.
 
cadahnic said:
I know alot about Slocum he was the one who recruited me. He is a class guy and task master. He does not take any crap and he expects you to give your best on every play whether walk through or game or just film session. Possibly the greatest coach I ever had. He runs an attacking 3-4 defense similar to Pittsburgh's blitz packages, but does some Patriot style coverages. Mainly press man, but some slide zones and shades to help out the safties. Corners are expected to blitz often and He stresses and I do mean stresses angles when attacking. "a good angle can make the most athletic seem like a F-ing practice squadder" I got this yelled at me many a time. I dont think he will become our DC, but it would be great if he was brought in to coach LBs or as a consultant to the HC on Defense.
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I can get behind a guy that gets that type of endorsement.
 
Jack Bauer said:
I don't care who you are that's funny! (Coming from an Ag!) Of course, I do have to comment that under trademark law, TAMU is required to defend its trademark.
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Rome was saying the other day that he doesn't think the Ags have a case because the Seattle fans aren't mounting each other and sticking their tongues down each others throats after TDs. :) Sorry to Ags but the way it was said was funny.
 
Coming form a Tech grad, who grew up in a UT family (don't ask how it happened) I'd have no issues with RC being the DC or even a coach/consultant. He has produced some great D and put a bunch of players into teh NFL. RC knows talent, espically defensive talent.

The only downside would be it wouldmena that we are most likely sticking with teh 3-4, and after four years of it I'm not so high on it anymore (unless we got somebody from Pitts D to run it, like say their D line caoch.)
 
TexanBacker93 said:
We don't want to have anything to do with the name wrecking crew. We don't want A&M filing a lawsuit against us.
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HA HA.

It would be nice to have a guy who knows the purpose of a Defense, you know, tackle, coverage, not letting the other team score. Basicss.

Now before I get to excitecd, was it speculation, rumor, a source close to reported? Or were they just throwing names out?
 
TEXANRED said:
Now before I get to excitecd, was it speculation, rumor, a source close to reported? Or were they just throwing names out?
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It was more of the speculation/rumor field.

But when you think about it, it kind of makes sense. Kubiak was a quarterbacks coach with Texas A&M. Sherman was the offensive line coach at Texas A&M. See a pattern emerging here?
 
hmmm... kubiak already said we were a 4-3 team, wonder if RC came here if he would be forced to run a 4-3, i would certianly hope not.
 
TexanBacker93 said:
We don't want to have anything to do with the name wrecking crew. We don't want A&M filing a lawsuit against us.
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Yeah, but we'd probably beat them 40-29... :stirpot:
 
It'd be good to see Slocum here.

I was wondering about Ray Rhodes, defensive coordinator at Seattle. This Texan was defensive backs coach at San Fran the same time that Shanahan was there; he even coached with him in Denver. He runs a 4-3. He has a habit of making bad defenses good, and since his team is in the Superbowl, everybody has to stay hush-hush. Just connecting some dots. I don't have anything tangible.

Anybody know his contract status at Seattle?

Some sites about Rhodes if you want to check it out:

http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/9173530

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/seahawks/archive/story/5437270p-3568969c.html
 
oso said:
It'd be good to see Slocum here.

I was wondering about Ray Rhodes, defensive coordinator at Seattle. This Texan was defensive backs coach at San Fran the same time that Shanahan was there; he even coached with him in Denver. He runs a 4-3. He has a habit of making bad defenses good, and since his team is in the Superbowl, everybody has to stay hush-hush. Just connecting some dots. I don't have anything tangible.

Anybody know his contract status at Seattle?
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He has been sidelined most of the year with a stroke.
 
Got my dates mixed up and thought I was looking at a current article. Scratch that one off the list! But I see via your other post some of the same reasons for trying for Marshall...
 
TEXANS84 said:
It was more of the speculation/rumor field.

But when you think about it, it kind of makes sense. Kubiak was a quarterbacks coach with Texas A&M. Sherman was the offensive line coach at Texas A&M. See a pattern emerging here?
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kubiak and sherman have both been coaches the last 3 years. Where has Slocum been? I wouldn't mind him coming in and maybe coaching LB's but not as the DC for an NFL team. just my :twocents:
 
Not to rain on anybody's parade, but for some reason I thought we wanted to go to and maybe win a Super Bowl. Why would re-assembling the aggy dreamcast from a couple decades back give you confidence we are heading in the right direction?

I want to see a NFL guy. Not a college guy with success (Chizik) or an old has-been college guy (RC) but a real f'n NFL guy. RC's been out of the game for a long time. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I'd prefer somebody who has a good feel for what's going on in the league right now. Add to all of this that NOBODY has hired RC to be a college HC since he left A&M. Sorry, but I just am really less than impressed if this ends up being Kubiak's answer for turning around the defense.
 
cadahnic said:
I know alot about Slocum he was the one who recruited me. He is a class guy and task master. He does not take any crap and he expects you to give your best on every play whether walk through or game or just film session. Possibly the greatest coach I ever had. He runs an attacking 3-4 defense similar to Pittsburgh's blitz packages, but does some Patriot style coverages. Mainly press man, but some slide zones and shades to help out the safties. Corners are expected to blitz often and He stresses and I do mean stresses angles when attacking. "a good angle can make the most athletic seem like a F-ing practice squadder" I got this yelled at me many a time. I dont think he will become our DC, but it would be great if he was brought in to coach LBs or as a consultant to the HC on Defense.
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Personal first-hand knowledge, thanks!

Sounds like a class guy, let's get more of his type :)
 
Who is the linebackers coach for the steelers? The way he get his linebackers to play maybe he deserves a shot.
 
Of course, I am an Ag, but if you are an opposing team that gets stuffed by the D, and the crowd starts chanting this so loud you can't hear yourself think...
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I don't have a problem with RC as I always thought he was a great coach, but I'm going to have to second the motion on no Aggie chants at any Texans game. The day this happens will be the day I officially turn in my Texans gear.

The Aggies apparently have some deal where they bend over with their hands on their knees and recite some chant. I'll never forget the time I was watching A&M play UH at the Dome and this 12 year old kid, who was there with his dad, was refusing to do it. The dad was really agitated about it finally the kid gave it. Very, very humorous.

We already have good, knowledgable fans who get loud when the defense is on the field. We do not need the aid of Aggie chants.
 
Fighting Blue Hen said:
I am so sick and tired of all this homerism. Bunch of Aggie homers.
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FYI, I started this thread (TCU Grad) and was relaying information heard over the radio. There is no need to call people homers.
 
TEXANS84 said:
FYI, I started this thread (TCU Grad) and was relaying information heard over the radio. There is no need to call people homers.
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Was being sarcastic to those who have been laying down all the "UT homerism" posts.
 
Steelers LB Coach:

"Keith Butler enters his third year on the Steelers’ coaching staff, joining the staff prior to the 2003 season.

Butler was named the Steelers’ linebackers coach Jan. 28, 2003, after serving the previous four seasons in a similar capacity with the Cleveland Browns (1999-02).

Butler has been instrumental in the development of the Steelers’ highly regarded linebacking corps. The unit includes two Pro Bowl players—All-Pro James Farrior (his first Pro Bowl) and Joey Porter—as well as developing starters Clark Haggans and Larry Foote. Butler also helped groom one of the team’s defensive surprises James Harrison, an original rookie free agent with the Steelers in 2000 who re-signed with the team just before training camp in 2004 after a year’s absence.

Prior to joining the Browns’ staff, Butler spent nine years coaching in the college ranks.

He began his coaching career at his alma mater, the University of Memphis, where he coached linebackers from 1990-97 and also coached defensive ends and special teams (1995-97). He served as defensive coordinator and linebackers coach at Arkansas State University in 1998.

Butler, 49, was selected by the Seattle Seahawks in the second round of the 1978 NFL Draft and played linebacker for 10 seasons (1978-87) with Seattle. He served as a defensive captain for the team and started 132-of-146 games in his career and still ranks second on the club’s all-time tackles list with 813.

A three-year starter at inside linebacker for Memphis, Butler led the school in tackles his junior and senior seasons. He finished his collegiate career with 384 tackles and seven interceptions. He was named a 1977 Associated Press All-American and played in the 1977 Senior Bowl and Blue-Gray All-Star Game.

Butler was born May 16, 1956 in Anniston, Ala. He and his wife Janet have three sons—Blake (22), Brandon (20) and Brett (18)."
 
Thanks long baller. After reading that I would say that man deserves a shot. You are not born a D-coordinator and it seems he has payed his dues and has the experience. Just thinking about the way he has got his linebackers flying around makes me wonder if he could make Peek and Babbin into a legit pass rush.

Not to mention he will also have a superbowl ring in a few days. And yes, that is what my magic 8-ball has told me.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Coming form a Tech grad, who grew up in a UT family (don't ask how it happened) I'd have no issues with RC being the DC or even a coach/consultant. He has produced some great D and put a bunch of players into teh NFL. RC knows talent, espically defensive talent.

The only downside would be it wouldmena that we are most likely sticking with teh 3-4, and after four years of it I'm not so high on it anymore (unless we got somebody from Pitts D to run it, like say their D line caoch.)
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You only say that because you have seen the worst of it. The truth is that with one upgrade the defense can go from last to at least average. All we need is a serious upgrade at NT and you will see the unit improve immensely. Without a NT that can dominate the 1 and 2 gaps, the 3-4 defense crumbles. Seth Payne is pretty good pass rushing from his position, but against the run he just doesn't cut it. Because we have so much personel invested in the 3-4 I still say the dream draft is something like...

1) Reggie Bush, RB USC
2) Gabe Watson, NT Michigan
3a) Greg Eslinger, C Minnesota
3b) Jason Allen, FS Tennessee
4) Johnathan Joseph, CB South Carolina
5) Lawrence Vickers, FB Colorado
6) Joe Toledo, OT Washington
7) Brando Twito, TE/OL Pittsburg State
 
Apoch said:
The truth is that with one upgrade the defense can go from last to at least average. All we need is a serious upgrade at NT and you will see the unit improve immensely. Without a NT that can dominate the 1 and 2 gaps, the 3-4 defense crumbles. Seth Payne is pretty good pass rushing from his position, but against the run he just doesn't cut it. Because we have so much personel invested in the 3-4 I still say the dream draft is something like...

2) Gabe Watson, NT Michigan
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So Seth Payne is the weakest link on the D? Don't think so. The difference when Payne is out of the game (and not a positive one) has been one of the more noticeable changes on the D to date. And Gabe Watson who has underwhelmed in college is the answer--hmmm. Not saying he is a bad pick in the 2nd, but if the Texans stuck with a 3-4 next year (unlikely it appears) Watson would be a filler next year (and possibly the year after), rather than an upgrade, just as TJ was last year.
 
Fighting Blue Hen said:
Bring in a real DC like this guy.

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Too late. We needed him last year to punch Palmer, Pendry, and heck, why not - Capers - in the kissers. :boxing:
 
I really doubt if the Texans are bringing in RC. Not that I've got anything against the guy because he did give my HS coach his first college job coaching the linebackers at A&M. To me he has just been out of the mix to long. Whomever the Texan's sign on as our new DC I'm sure that they have been giving the situation careful thought and that is why we haven't really heard who it's going to be. I hope that the problem is solved shortly after the SB.
 
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