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DE Tony Weaver signed

What a ste of ends that would be if we can sign Weaver then draft Super Mario!! Not a bad pair of bookends.:yahoo: :superman:
 
Well not somebody as high profile as Abraham. Proven might be the better word, I was looking at Kampman but he already re-signed. I guess I have a bad taste left from the previous coaches whenever there is a mention of "potential".
 
scouting report from espn.com:

Weaver has adequate size for the position and the versatility to be able to move inside and play the tackle position. He has very good foot quickness and an explosive get off. He has good running ability, plays with a high level of energy and shows the ability to run plays down from the back side. He comes off the ball, plays with good leverage and shows that he has very good strength in both his upper and lower body. He is capable of controlling the line of scrimmage and you rarely see him get knocked off the ball. He has good hand placement and excellent use of his hands in shedding blockers and also in pass rush. He has a very strong bull rush, shows that he can collapse the pocket and has a good variety of pass rush techniques that he can use. He has very good play recognition, redirects to the ball well and has good closing speed to the quarterback. He has the foot quickness to be effective in executing line stunts and shows good body control and change of direction skills. He has good quickness and good running ability but does not do a good job of finishing plays. He lacks the ideal speed to be able to turn the corner as an edge rusher and is not the aggressive bone jarring tackler that you would like to see in the open field. He can hold his own in a one-on-one situation but needs to become more consistent verses a double-team block. Overall, he is a good steady player who is not clearly dominant as either a defensive end or as a defensive tackle.
 
The Dude Abides said:
He sure had a lot of DNP's this year..... Was he injured?
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12/14/2005 --- Questionable --- Knee/back
12/7/2005 --- Doubtful --- Back
12/2/2005 --- Probable --- Back
11/2/2005 --- Doubtful --- Toe
10/26/2005 --- Questionable --- Toe
10/19/2005 --- Out --- Toe
10/12/2005 --- Out --- Toe
10/5/2005 --- Out --- Toe

Looks like a Gary Walker in training.
 
I want to believe that Reeves, Sherman, and Kubiak will curb Cass' impulse to spend on this mid-level joke of a small DT.
 
Weaver is a solid starting calibur strong-side DE. does not have a ton of untapped potential and probably not going to be a double digit sack guy, but is solid against the run and does get some push.

As for injury last year was the first time he missed significant time with injury over his 4 year career. Every team needs guy like Weaver, you just don't want to overpay for them.
 
I'm going to keep the faith in the new coaches - but this little FA deal seems to have Casserly's name written all over it.
 
adding weaver would be fine to me cause he has descent talent but he aint no game breaker so it would have to be at a good price.
 
Coach C. said:
... mid-level joke of a small DT.
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Weaver, a former second-round pick, has been the Ravens' most consistent lineman since starting as a rookie in 2002. But he feels the Ravens are willing to let him walk based on the way (contract) negotiations have been going.

"I feel like I've been put on the back burner a little bit," Weaver said. "I don't take it personal. I'm not upset at the Ravens. It's just the way I see it."
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...mar03,0,86472.story?coll=bal-sports-headlines
 
Weaver would be an upgrade to anyone on our roster at the strong-side DE position so I do not know why everyone is hating on him. The Texans are looking to upgrade multiple positions, just because they do not sign what fans preceive to be a big name does not mean the team is not getting better. Weaver has good strength and quickness. He will never be in the top 10 in the league in sacks, but is very effective against the run and is an adequate pass rushers. If we sign him, I would foresee he and Babin playing on running situations and then Peek coming in on the weak side on passing situations. DE is a VERY expensive position, I think this would be a good choice and could add value to the team at a need position.
 
He was a decent 3-4 lineman when he was drafted. Why because he is a DT. That is what you pick for the 34 defense. Now that he was placed in the 43 it was all about Terrel Suggs. AJ so what are you trying to tell me. I know about Weaver have followed him for a minute now, thought he would be a good fit for us especially running the 34, but we dont run that defense. Look for him to hopefully land with Cleveland where he could be successful.
 
I would be happy with Weaver. Played on one of the best defenses of all time and he plays a position we sorley need, Strong side DE. We need these type of players, unless we are going to draft Mario.
 
Coach C. said:
He was a decent 3-4 lineman when he was drafted. Why because he is a DT. That is what you pick for the 34 defense. Now that he was placed in the 43 it was all about Terrel Suggs. AJ so what are you trying to tell me. I know about Weaver have followed him for a minute now, thought he would be a good fit for us especially running the 34, but we dont run that defense. Look for him to hopefully land with Cleveland where he could be successful.
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The last two seasons have been the first time the Ravens have not had their base D out of a 43, if im no mistaken. He has played SDE in a 4-3 and has performed well.
 
I am very familiar with Weaver as he played from where I went to college.

He played strong side DE his entire to at Notre Dame. Additionally, he was widely regarded as the strongest person on the team during his last two years. High character guy with a nonstop motor. I think he would be a good leader to help change some of the dynamics of the D-Line, namely led by whining Gary "my toe hurts" Walker.
 
Coach C. said:
AJ so what are you trying to tell me. .
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You called him a joke and the Ravens beat writer called him the Ravens most consistent linemen for the last four seasons. Just a little juxtaposition to inspire debate.

I haven't really watched him except for when the Ravens played the Texans so I don't have as much insight into the guy as others who regularly watch the Ravens might have.
 
I'm really hoping all this 43 talk is only a ruse and the Texans modify the 34 with the personel they already invested in, I see no reason why with good coaching the 34 cannot work here. just look at the last 4 or 5 Superbowls both Pittsburgh and New England use the 34. I don't know much about Weaver but to get him they'll have to pay millions :money: at least he seems to fit both schemes so when Walker is released :rolleyes: slid right into his role :twocents:
 
Sounds good to me. The Texans have new coaches, so I am going to trust their judgment with FAs. Weaver could be a solid addition.
 
I like this. Weaver is an upgrade If we sign him this will be the best free agent move the Texans have made thus far in their short history. Lets all pray that it gets even better.:redtowel:
 
I'm glad to see the Texans interested in Weaver. I'd been hoping that they would take a serious look at him. As others have mentioned he's a high-energy guy who's very good against the run, and he'd be a nice fit at strong side DE. I'd love to see the Texans pickup Mario in the draft as well, but that's yet to be seen. A DLine with Weaver, Smith, Johnson, & Williams would definately be a formidable one. I agree with AT also though, and I really don't want the Texans to throw a lot of money at the guy. If he can be had for a reasonable price then I'm all in, but if he's asking for mega bux then we can find someone else that comes at a cheaper price.
 
texansfan1974 said:
I like this. Weaver is an upgrade If we sign him this will be the best free agent move the Texans have made thus far in their short history. Lets all pray that it gets even better.:redtowel:
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Can never have too many Irish on your team. :ok:

But I may be a little biased. :)

:coffee:
 
Well hopefully Weaver goes somewhere else. No need to pay for more money for a guy that will not live up to it. He could be our defense equivalent to Wade that would be great wouldn't it.
 
i don't understand why some of ya'll don't want weaver...we need a strong side DE and he fits the bill...he's shouldn't be an expensive FA for us...couldn't see them paying him more than 2 mill a year...plus he perfect for the system...on running downs he's in and on passing downs peek takes over...where's the problem
 
keyfro said:
i don't understand why some of ya'll don't want weaver.
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It's just puzzling. He is another guy who may be more tackle than end in a 4-3....and he isn't that much different than the guys we already have who played the 3-4 end last year. So far we have extended Carr, extended McKinney, and went after a guy who is a little more of a Tackle than an end....just confusing where we are really headed with a roster revamp on the agenda. I guess he can play 4-3 end and play at a 'decent' level...but he won't be a double digit sacker...I don't think.
 
i tell you what...i just went to the ravens website...weaver isn't that impressive...but like i said he would be a good compliment to peek and orr as far as a run stuffing DE goes for them to switch in and out with...that being said i wouldn't spend a lot of money on him...another thing i noticed and i belive another member here might have mentioned him before but bart scott...ray lewis's back-up...he might be one heck of a find for somebody if he gets to start...just a thought but we need a MLB and he would be cheap for the first year or two
 
Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports the Houston Texans have reached agreement on an undisclosed contract with free agent DE Anthony Weaver (Ravens). Weaver is expected to receive $13 million in guaranteed money.
 
Source: Jamison Hensley, Baltimore Sun [ Full Article ]

The Ravens have lost two starting defensive linemen on the first day of free agency.

Nose tackle Maake Kemoeatu agreed in principle with the Carolina Panthers and defensive end Tony Weaver reached a deal with the Houston Texans.

Kemoeatu, who was considered the Ravens' top priority, will sign a five-year, $23 million deal which includes $8 million in bonuses. Weaver is expected to receive $13 million in guaranteed money.
 
Wow... 13 million guaranteed for a guy that averages about 3 sacks and 30 tackles a season when healthy. Here we go again... He and Greenwood must have the same agent.
 
Here is his profile page from his draft
ANALYSIS
Positives: Compactly built, with a thick neck, chest, shoulders and body frame that would be ideal in a 3-4 defensive alignment … Mature leader who has the sudden burst off the snap to quickly gain advantage … Holds his ground firmly vs. the trap blocks and double teams … Shows good second effort in pursuit … Has the functional strength needed to stop the ball carrier at the line of scrimmage … Uses his hands effectively to disengage when bull rushing … Has the short burst and extra surge needed to close on the quarterback … Has the lateral agility to step up and slip past blocks … Gets his hands up quickly to block the passer's vision at the line … Stays on his feet working through trash and shows a strong burst on the pass rush … Delivers a strong hand punch to prevent blockers from getting into his chest … Explodes through blocks and is very effective creating havoc coming off the edge.

Negatives: Has good power in his lower body (despite being knock-kneed), but runs upright and lacks the change of direction agility in pursuit (more suited for a straight-ahead charge) … Late to react coming off the snap, showing only adequate ability to locate the ball instantly … Has the arm strength, but will struggle to break through the containment as he has problems with his rip-and-swim moves working when trying to disengage (keeps his arms too close to the body rather than extending to jolt) … Does not have the suddenness to adjust on the move, needing to restart in order to get back to the play when he overpursues … More comfortable diagnosing pass plays, as he is very slow to locate the ball carrier when moving inline … Better playing in the box, as he tends to miss too many tackles working in space … His lack of lateral agility and size will see him move from college defensive end to tackle.
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2002/profiles/weaver_anthony.htm
 
bigTEXan8 said:
Geez Vinny, tell us how you really feel. Ha...just playin'.
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Hes a smaller, younger version of Gary Walker...but not as good as him (in each of their primes).
 
No way it's $13 million up front. Bentley got $12.5 and Keamotu(?) got $6 million up front. They are both bigger grabs than Weaver.
 
You're talking about a GM who gave $11 million up front to Todd Wade.

I wonder if Kubiak is having second thoughts yet...
 
What is everyone's opinon: does signing Weaver preclude us from taking Mario Wiliams?
 
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