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Davis Tracking for Over 1,200

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Current Domanick Davis stats:

Attempts: 208
Yards: 837
TD: 2
Rec: 32
Yards 287
TD Rec: 3
Fumbles: 1

Projected end of the year stats:

Attempts: 277
Yards: 1,116
TD: 3
Rec: 43
Yards: 383
TD Rec: 4
Fumbles: 1

You gotta give the guy some credit, he's done a heck of a job protecting the football this year. Only one fumble in 12 games where as he lost 4 fumbles in the first two games last year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6437
 
He did have the four fumbles in the first two games, and the SD loss was tough to take, But he did go the last 14 games of the season without a fumble. DD does a pretty good job taking care of the football. Anyone that handles the ball that much is going to cough it up a few times and on a couple of those four from last year, it was just a good play by the defense getting the ball out.

This is a down year for the team, which affects everyone's stats, but DD has done a solid job, IMO.
 
DD is the next Tiki Barber. He is a small guy that had fumbling problems, but is a threat receiving and rushing. He shakes off countless tackles and makes something out of nothing. The guy is a talent and probably the best pick that Casserly has made. I base that on AJ and DRob being no brainers. I remember when people wanted Charles Rogers my my how soon we forget.
 
Coach C. said:
DD is the next Tiki Barber. He is a small guy that had fumbling problems, but is a threat receiving and rushing. He shakes off countless tackles and makes something out of nothing. The guy is a talent and probably the best pick that Casserly has made. I base that on AJ and DRob being no brainers. I remember when people wanted Charles Rogers my my how soon we forget.
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the downside to DD is that he doesnt have the breakaway speed like Tiki Barber. 1,100 yds is good, but until he starts putting up 1,300+, then we can compare him to tiki.
 
TexanFanInCC said:
the downside to DD is that he doesnt have the breakaway speed like Tiki Barber. 1,100 yds is good, but until he starts putting up 1,300+, then we can compare him to tiki.
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What he said... I'm a big DD fan but he just doesnt have the speed to be one of the elite backs in the NFL. I've never seen him break away from the LOS and end a play in the endzone.
 
That is why I said the next Tiki. The first 5 years that Tiki was in the league his highest rushing total was 1006 and he has been over 1300 yds 3 times(I am including this year). So Davis will become one of those rare backs that has had 1000+ yrds in his first three seasons. I compare him to Tiki cause size, stature, speed, and multifaceted ability make them very similar. They also have very similar run styles.
 
Coach C. said:
That is why I said the next Tiki. The first 5 years that Tiki was in the league his highest rushing total was 1006 and he has been over 1300 yds 3 times(I am including this year). So Davis will become one of those rare backs that has had 1000+ yrds in his first three seasons. I compare him to Tiki cause size, stature, speed, and multifaceted ability make them very similar. They also have very similar run styles.
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DD and tiki do not compare in terms of speed, and that is why tiki is who he is. his speed is the reason why he is an elite back, and domanick doesnt have that. yes, their running styles are similar, but DD couldnt break off a 50 yd run to save his life.
 
His rookie season he had rushes of 50 and 51 yd. Domanick Davis has had runs of over 20+ 5 times or more in each season he has been in the league. I think we are arguing a moot point here though. I am not saying that Domanick is a fast back, because he is not he is quick. I am saying that he does break long runs and does it as consistently as almost every other back in the league.
 
MightyTExan said:
I thought he had a 40 or 50 yd run in the last game?
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His long run was 29 yards - it just took so long for him to get there it seemed like 50.

THAT WAS JOKE!
 
A 1,000+ yard rusher on a 1-11 team. It just goes to show how misleading stats can be most of the time.

DD's potential is why I don't think they'll draft Bush. Too much money would be tied up with one position, and we have way too many holes to fill at the moment that are much more pressing concerns.
 
Double Barrel said:
A 1,000+ yard rusher on a 1-11 team. It just goes to show how misleading stats can be most of the time.

DD's potential is why I don't think they'll draft Bush. Too much money would be tied up with one position, and we have way too many holes to fill at the moment that are much more pressing concerns.
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We have a lot of money tied up in just about every offensive posstion and nearly every defensive possition. Our offensive line is overpaid. So with your philosophy that means no drafting a left tackle. Our linebackers are overpaid so that means no AJ Hawk.

I hope when it comes down to the draft our top priority isnt saving money.
 
DD's potential is to get somewhere between 1000 and 1200 yards per season plus a couple hundred receiving yards. Reggie Bush's potential is to get 2000 total yards per season. I would take Reggie Bush's potential even if we have a servicable back. That is like saying "we don't need Alex Rodriguez because we have Adam Everett".
 
Domanick Davis gets around 1,100 yards every year. I'd get more excited about it if it really made the Texans any better.

It doesn't so I'm not.

Domanick Davis is the Houston Texans version of the Oilers Tim Smith, albeit playing RB instead of WR. He has roughly the same effect on the win column as Smith had and he gets the same "Wow he must be really good!" kind of numbers.
 
tulexan said:
DD's potential is to get somewhere between 1000 and 1200 yards per season plus a couple hundred receiving yards. Reggie Bush's potential is to get 2000 total yards per season. I would take Reggie Bush's potential even if we have a servicable back. That is like saying "we don't need Alex Rodriguez because we have Adam Everett".
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That's not even close to being the same. A-Rod is a proven superstar at the pro level. Reggie Bush has yet set foot on an NFL field.
 
Really is 1,100 that impressive? That averages out to about 69 yards per game. A starting running back will generally get around 20 carries a game which means you have to average 3.45 yards per carry. I know he in fact is averaging more than that (around 83 yards per game and 4 yards per carry) but that is because he gets injured every year.
 
JackDizzle said:
That's not even close to being the same. A-Rod is a proven superstar at the pro level. Reggie Bush has yet set foot on an NFL field.
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Wait one year.
 
HardKnockTexan said:
We have a lot of money tied up in just about every offensive posstion and nearly every defensive possition. Our offensive line is overpaid. So with your philosophy that means no drafting a left tackle. Our linebackers are overpaid so that means no AJ Hawk.

I hope when it comes down to the draft our top priority isnt saving money.
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ahhh, but the flaw in your logic is that the o-line is not giving us anything near what a 1,100 yard RB gives us at his relative position.

You are making an assumption about my philosophy. If DD was making his jack but only rushing for 500 yards, your comparison would be valid. But it appears that our linemen are being overpaid for what we get in return.

I hope saving money is not a top priority, too. And that includes hiring coaches, or we'll end up back at the same place we find ourselves now.
 
jerek said:
What kind of philosophy is that? "He is good, but we don't win, so draft someone else?" If only the Peyton Mannings, LaDanian Tomlinsons, and Shaun Alexanders of this league had been subjected to that kind of thinking when their teams weren't the up-and-coming powerhouses they are today. When you are losing, you look to rid yourself of the people who aren't helping you to win. Now how does Davis factor into that qualifier? That makes a lot of sense.
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Calm down dude. When those players were in their 3rd year they were in or on their way to the playoffs not holding a 1-11 record onto one of the worst seasons in nfl history, plus one of them is a 2 time mvp possibly on his way to his third and the other guys on the list are up for the reward to. Those guys are elite DD is not. A 1-11 record, which is only going to get worse makes you very realistic, the fact is that after this year No ones and I repeat NO ONES job is safe. The thing that no ones talking about is how many times has a back gone over a 1000 yards and only had 2 rushing tds. I bet only a handful of times.
 
It's not that 1,000 yards is supposed to be "impressive", but more of a standard to indicate the presence of a running game. Obviously, like I mentioned before, 1,100 yard RB means nothing on a 1-11 team.

You can't really speak of impressive until you hit the 1,500 yard mark. But even that may become the norm and we have to use 2,000 yards as our mark.
 
I don't even consider 1,000 yards being an indicator of the presence of a running game. A player should be able to get 68 yards on 20 carries. I would say that 1,280 is a benchmark for a running game because that averages out to 80 yards per game. If you run the ball 20 times and get 80 yards it's not great but it is ok. Ideally you would like to have a guy who is closer to 5 yards per carry. I don't see Davis capable of ever averaging 5 yards per carry because I don't think he has the speed to break the long ones to counter act all of the stuffs at the line of scrimmage.
 
tulexan said:
Wait one year.
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So he's going to be a lock for the HOF after his first season? Interesting.


I find it odd that there aren't more Leinart homers popping up given Carr's horrible season AND contract situation. To me, that would make more sense than ditching Davis - who has accounted for a big chunk of our offense since his rookie year - and drafting Reggie Bush.

I'm not jumping on the Leinart or Bush bandwagon, I'm just pointing out that the Leinart scenario would make more sense given the circumstances.
 
JackDizzle said:
So he's going to be a lock for the HOF after his first season? Interesting.


I find it odd that there aren't more Leinart homers popping up given Carr's horrible season AND contract situation. To me, that would make more sense than ditching Davis - who has accounted for a big chunk of our offense since his rookie year - and drafting Reggie Bush.

I'm not jumping on the Leinart or Bush bandwagon, I'm just pointing out that the Leinart scenario would make more sense given the circumstances.
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It makes no sense actually. I think many would agree that they do not want to invest first pick money in a QB again.
 
Yeah plus some people are starting to have questions about Matt. Hes already had to have surgery and everytime his team almost lost this year it wasn't him that won, but bush stepping up in the clutch and carrying his team across the finish line, hell even the game winning td Matt scored against the irish Bush had to push him in. Plus with him playing with the best talented players in the country theres a reason why he isn't going first
 
Carr Bomb said:
Calm down dude. When those players were in their 3rd year they were in or on their way to the playoffs not holding a 1-11 record onto one of the worst seasons in nfl history, plus one of them is a 2 time mvp possibly on his way to his third and the other guys on the list are up for the reward to. Those guys are elite DD is not. A 1-11 record, which is only going to get worse makes you very realistic, the fact is that after this year No ones and I repeat NO ONES job is safe. The thing that no ones talking about is how many times has a back gone over a 1000 yards and only had 2 rushing tds. I bet only a handful of times.
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According to NFL archives, in Tomlinson's third season the Chargers went 4-12 and ended up with the first pick in the draft. Sure he put up 1645 rushing yards (5.3 yards per carry), 725 receiving yards, and 17 total TDs, but how did that help his team win? They were the worst in the league during his best statistical season. The next season he had 1335 rushing yards (3.9 ypc), 441 receiving yards, 18 total TDs and they're 12-4 and back in the playoffs. It appears that RBs don't have to put up their best statistical seasons in order for their team to win and that there might be some other factors involved, and he only averaged 3.9 yards per carry that year too, so a RB doesn't have to average 5+ yards per carry to be effective and for their team to win.
 
JackDizzle said:
So he's going to be a lock for the HOF after his first season? Interesting.


I find it odd that there aren't more Leinart homers popping up given Carr's horrible season AND contract situation. To me, that would make more sense than ditching Davis - who has accounted for a big chunk of our offense since his rookie year - and drafting Reggie Bush.

I'm not jumping on the Leinart or Bush bandwagon, I'm just pointing out that the Leinart scenario would make more sense given the circumstances.
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No I'm not saying that he will be a lock for the HOF after one year. But I do believe that after 1 year he will have a lot more total yards and touchdowns than Dominack Davis did his rookie year. If our line can create holes for Davis to have 20 and 30 yard runs, those will be 60 and 70 yard runs for Reggie Bush. And those long runs for Davis that gave us zero touchdowns would have been touchdowns for Bush. I've never seen a guy that once he gets around the corner he is gone.
 
Double Barrel said:
ahhh, but the flaw in your logic is that the o-line is not giving us anything near what a 1,100 yard RB gives us at his relative position.
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IMO your points have been excellent. There are two significant reasons why DD is and should be viewed in the light of putting up stats less than he otherwise would--(1) the OL--yes, the run blocking is better than the pass blocking, but that is kind of like saying you would rather fornicate a sheep than a pig--neither one is an attractive proposition, and (2) the circumstances of his runs--i.e. not getting any in blow-outs, or being the focus of the D as teams dare the Texans to throw this year.
 
tulexan said:
No I'm not saying that he will be a lock for the HOF after one year. But I do believe that after 1 year he will have a lot more total yards and touchdowns than Dominack Davis did his rookie year. If our line can create holes for Davis to have 20 and 30 yard runs, those will be 60 and 70 yard runs for Reggie Bush. And those long runs for Davis that gave us zero touchdowns would have been touchdowns for Bush. I've never seen a guy that once he gets around the corner he is gone.
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Absolutely Bush will rip off some home-runs in the NFL, but the ability is overrated and can't be compared directly to DD. The plays where DD gets 10+ are not automatic TD's or even long runs for Bush. Look back just to this last weekend. DD lived not off of out running NFL caliber players around the corner (someone name the last RB who consistantly does this in the NFL by the way) he did it by moves inside and running over multiple players to get 10+ yds. That is the way of the NFL--breaking tackles to get consistantly to the 2nd level where pure open speed field counts. The 64K question is whether Bush can break the tackles up the middle to consistantly move the chains and get to where he can display his speed. He may, but he certainly hasn't shown that ability at USC where LenDale White has the entire middle of the field as his responsibility.
 
MorKnolle said:
According to NFL archives, in Tomlinson's third season the Chargers went 4-12 and ended up with the first pick in the draft. Sure he put up 1645 rushing yards (5.3 yards per carry), 725 receiving yards, and 17 total TDs, but how did that help his team win? They were the worst in the league during his best statistical season. The next season he had 1335 rushing yards (3.9 ypc), 441 receiving yards, 18 total TDs and they're 12-4 and back in the playoffs. It appears that RBs don't have to put up their best statistical seasons in order for their team to win and that there might be some other factors involved, and he only averaged 3.9 yards per carry that year too, so a RB doesn't have to average 5+ yards per carry to be effective and for their team to win.
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Good post.

But, you could also spin it this way as well: Both Shaun Alexander (1388, 4.9) and Edgerrin James (1347, 4.4) are #1 and #2 respectively in rushing this season. Ironically both teams that they play for have the best records in each of their teams conference.
 
jerek said:
What kind of philosophy is that? "He is good, but we don't win, so draft someone else?" If only the Peyton Mannings, LaDanian Tomlinsons, and Shaun Alexanders of this league had been subjected to that kind of thinking when their teams weren't the up-and-coming powerhouses they are today. When you are losing, you look to rid yourself of the people who aren't helping you to win. Now how does Davis factor into that qualifier? That makes a lot of sense.
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It's not a philosophy it's a simple observation. Domanick Davis is a nice back but nothing to get excited about. Davis gets a thousand yards and the Texans go 5-11. Davis gets a thousand yards and the Texans go 7-9. Davis gets a thousand yards and the Texans go 1-11 (so far) and his thousand yards, while nice to look at, amount to (as has already been stated) about 70 yards per game. That's nothing to get excited about. Defenses do not stay up the night before the game worrying that Domanick Davis is going to run wild all over them and they never will. Anyone who says they made a point of shutting down DD after defeating the Texans is being polite. Nothing more.

An important point to make is that the Texans are losing (as you say) and that you should look to rid yourself of players who are not helping you to win. Explain to me how Davis getting 1,100 yards for the past three seasons has helped the Texans to win?

When will you people get this through your heads? The Texans in 2002 got approximately the same useless thousand yards out of James Allen and Jonathan Wells combined and nobody was talking about how our running game was good enough. Sure we didn't have a "thousand yard back, Whoooo Hoooo!" on our team but they got a 1048 yards. The next year we got one more win and Davis ran for 1031 yards.

Yes his average was better than the guys who carried the rock the year before.

Yes the team as a whole ran the ball better (1398 yards)

No having one guy get those yards didn't change much of anything. The next year the team got better. Davis ran for a whole 157 more yards than he did the year before. That translated into one more win. Jonathan Wells could have done that if he hadn't had the stink of the 2002 season running game clinging to him.

I don't care about this anymore. You know how I feel about this and I know how you feel about it. We can both walk away from this conversation with the thought in our heads that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
 
The shame of it is that Davis' 70 yds. per game has done more to help this team this year than anyone else, but you've made your point for sure, and he doesn't block worth a darn either. 1000 yds. is nothing at all to brag about in a 16 game season, but, at the same time, it IS adaquate and we have other positions that are NOT adequate at all. Right now, I have no idea what is best....except to fire as many coaches and GMs as possible.
 
Hervoyel said:
Defenses do not stay up the night before the game worrying that Domanick Davis is going to run wild all over them and they never will. Anyone who says they made a point of shutting down DD after defeating the Texans is being polite. Nothing more.
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That is a great point. Defenses do not have to game plan around him. I have yet to see a team make a point to completely shut him down like the way that the Eagles did to LaDanian Tomlinson. Once we have a back like that (Reggie Bush), we will be able to exploit our other weapons (AJ and Carr) and have more success. I don't see teams putting 8 in the box like they did to Jamal Lewis when he had his freakish year. They let him have his yards and then jog up and tackle him. He is good, but he will always be what he is, a run of the mill middle of the pack running back. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
What's the point of gameplanning against a specific player with this predictable offense.

The Texans offense is always dump off, roll out, and dive. You don't need to shut down a player when you got the playbook in front of you.
 
TexanFanInCC said:
the downside to DD is that he doesnt have the breakaway speed like Tiki Barber. 1,100 yds is good, but until he starts putting up 1,300+, then we can compare him to tiki.
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He has also missed two games, that factors in, if he plays the rest of the games and plays as well as last week, he could get about 1200 yds plus 250 receiving. Not too bad against a constant 8-man box...
 
am i the only that isn't impressed with a runningback in this league running for just over 1000yds anymore...i'm sorry the number to reach these days is closer to 1,500yds...that's when you've arrived as a runningback in my mind...when you are in the top 5 or 6 backs in the nfl in rushing
 
tulexan said:
That is a great point. Defenses do not have to game plan around him. I have yet to see a team make a point to completely shut him down like the way that the Eagles did to LaDanian Tomlinson. Once we have a back like that (Reggie Bush), we will be able to exploit our other weapons (AJ and Carr) and have more success. I don't see teams putting 8 in the box like they did to Jamal Lewis when he had his freakish year. They let him have his yards and then jog up and tackle him. He is good, but he will always be what he is, a run of the mill middle of the pack running back. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I've been saying this for 2 years and was named a "Davis hater" by quite a few people...

It feels good to be right once in awhile :D
 
tulexan said:
Really is 1,100 that impressive? That averages out to about 69 yards per game. A starting running back will generally get around 20 carries a game which means you have to average 3.45 yards per carry. I know he in fact is averaging more than that (around 83 yards per game and 4 yards per carry) but that is because he gets injured every year.
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OH MY GOD!!!! You want to get Reggie Bush, a guy that averages less then 15 carries a game, and your argument for this is that our RB, who gets about 25 per game in Pendry's crappy offense, is injured to often!!! Can you imagine what this would do to Bush's body, who is far leaner then DD and would break down far more often.
 
tulexan said:
I don't even consider 1,000 yards being an indicator of the presence of a running game. A player should be able to get 68 yards on 20 carries. I would say that 1,280 is a benchmark for a running game because that averages out to 80 yards per game. If you run the ball 20 times and get 80 yards it's not great but it is ok. Ideally you would like to have a guy who is closer to 5 yards per carry. I don't see Davis capable of ever averaging 5 yards per carry because I don't think he has the speed to break the long ones to counter act all of the stuffs at the line of scrimmage.
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Thats the whole point. Gettting one run of 60 yds isnt going to help your team win if all of your other runs are for practically no gain or small gains. Though Bush might average closer to 5yds per carry (LT averaged 3.9 last year), it would be so inconsitent that it would not really help the team throughout the game. He gets one big one every 20 carries, but for the other 19 he would prbably go nowhere because he cant run between the tackles!!!:brickwall
 
What 8-man box is he constantly facing? The only person that the defenses aim to take out of the game is Andre Johnson because he is our only big playmaker.
 
tulexan said:
That is a great point. Defenses do not have to game plan around him. I have yet to see a team make a point to completely shut him down like the way that the Eagles did to LaDanian Tomlinson. Once we have a back like that (Reggie Bush), we will be able to exploit our other weapons (AJ and Carr) and have more success. I don't see teams putting 8 in the box like they did to Jamal Lewis when he had his freakish year. They let him have his yards and then jog up and tackle him. He is good, but he will always be what he is, a run of the mill middle of the pack running back. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Good god!!! You say that teams dont plan for DD, but they do for LT? Why? Becasue of the numbers they are capable of putting up, right? I mean, LT will just dominate you, in fact last year, he had about 1700 yds from scrimage, incredible!! Too bad we will never get that production from our running back....oh wait, DD also happned to have 1776 yd from scrimage last year. Please tell me why defensense would plan for LT but not DD, if they put up the same numbers...:brickwall
Just because you dont see DD's runs on SportCenter dosnt mean anything..:brickwall
 
Actually those big runs do help because he scores touchdowns. Go look at my post in Leinart Or Bush...?Who's more valuable???. Reggie Bush's average touchdown is from 31.9 yards out. I also never said that Reggie Bush should be our only back. I think he should be mixed in all over the place either with Dominack Davis or Jonathan Wells.
 
tulexan said:
What 8-man box is he constantly facing? The only person that the defenses aim to take out of the game is Andre Johnson because he is our only big playmaker.
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Yeah, they have absoultley no respect for our passing game, they just double AJ and leave the other recivers in single coverage, leaving the other safety to help out with run support...
 
tulexan said:
Actually those big runs do help because he scores touchdowns. Go look at my post in Leinart Or Bush...?Who's more valuable???. Reggie Bush's average touchdown is from 31.9 yards out. I also never said that Reggie Bush should be our only back. I think he should be mixed in all over the place either with Dominack Davis or Jonathan Wells.
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yeah he scores, but its one per game (in the pros, dont expect too many more 500yd games here). The other runs where its a simple dive up the middle and there is no cutback lane, he isnt going anywhere. DD consitently gets 4-5 runs per carry, he donst have the big runs to bump up his average, but he still is around 4, that tells you he acctually gains 4 per carry, not 1, 2 ,1 0,1,3, 54,1, 10....like Bush would

There is no way our offense could sustain the drives on which Bush dosnt break through...

Then you also want to invest $40M in a player who will not be an everydown back..while having a player earning 25M sit on the bench and spell the guy getting 40M... great cap management...
 
run-david-run said:
Good god!!! You say that teams dont plan for DD, but they do for LT? Why? Becasue of the numbers they are capable of putting up, right? I mean, LT will just dominate you, in fact last year, he had about 1700 yds from scrimage, incredible!! Too bad we will never get that production from our running back....oh wait, DD also happned to have 1776 yd from scrimage last year. Please tell me why defensense would plan for LT but not DD, if they put up the same numbers...:brickwall
Just because you dont see DD's runs on SportCenter dosnt mean anything..:brickwall
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Because LaDanian Tomlinson is a touchdown threat every time he touches the ball. Once he gets past the linebackers he is gone. Once Domanick Davis gets past the linebackers, he can be chased down by defensive tackles. If you actually think that Domanick Davis is even comparable to LaDanian Tomlinson, then you have reached a new level of homerism. That is like comparing Drew Bennett to Marvin Harrison.
 
run-david-run said:
yeah he scores, but its one per game (in the pros, dont expect too many more 500yd games here). The other runs where its a simple dive up the middle and there is no cutback lane, he isnt going anywhere. DD consitently gets 4-5 runs per carry, he donst have the big runs to bump up his average, but he still is around 4, that tells you he acctually gains 4 per carry, not 1, 2 ,1 0,1,3, 54,1, 10....like Bush would

There is no way our offense could sustain the drives on which Bush dosnt break through...

Then you also want to invest $40M in a player who will not be an everydown back..while having a player earning 25M sit on the bench and spell the guy getting 40M... great cap management...
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Believe it or not, but he does score more than once a game. The only reason why he didn't score more is because he had to share time with LenDale White and that he breaks so many long runs that he has to rest.

Have you ever even watched Reggie Bush play? His carries aren't anything like that. He does get stuffed occasionally, but what running back doesn't. This is what I've seen from him. Him jumping over players that are trying to tackle him and remaining at full speed and balanced, players trying to tackle him but only can rip his shoe off and he still gets 15 yards. Players trying to tackle him but only can rip his sleeve off, he had a 50 yard run. Players trying to tackle him but he makes them fall over after faking them out. He is 6'0 200 right now. By the time the season starts, he will probably be around 210 or 215.

Domanick's consistent 4 yards per carry hasn't been scoring any touchdowns this year. And like Reggie Bush, Domanick Davis also gets stuffed at the line of scrimmage a lot. In fact I remember during that Rams game we couldn't sustain our lead because we couldn't rely on Domanick's consistent running to eat time off the clock. We also couldn't rely on Domanick's consistent running against the Seahawks when he had 18 carries for 40 yards.
 
all i needed to see of reggie bush's play was the play he made on the entire ucla defense when he hurdled on defender starting about the 8 yardline and landed into the endzone...he hurdled a 6'2'' jarrod page and ended up 3 yds into the endzone...the man is hybrid of sanders and dorsett...he will be just like marshall faulk...a hall of fame runningback...that's the end of discussion because DD is just like so many backs in this league...he'll barely break a 1,000yds every year but he won't make those jaw dropping plays whether that's running over people or juking them
 
keyfro said:
am i the only that isn't impressed with a runningback in this league running for just over 1000yds anymore...i'm sorry the number to reach these days is closer to 1,500yds...that's when you've arrived as a runningback in my mind...when you are in the top 5 or 6 backs in the nfl in rushing
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Alexander never had 1500 yards rushing until last year and he was considered elite prior to that. Roger Craig topped 1500 yards once in his career and broke 1000 yards only 3 times total in his 11-year career.

I understand your point, and sure, 1000-yard seasons don't have the luster they had during the era of a 14-game schedule. But YPC average is as good an indicator of running than anything else. In the case of Craig (and most likely DD), getting 1000 yards on the ground wasn't a priority. Getting a combined 1500 yards was more important to the 49ers and that doesn't make Roger Craig any less of a great RB. There are different ways of getting from Point A to Point B, but so many people have this ideal of a 1500-yd ground gainer that gets 80-yd streaking TDs stuck in their head. It all depends on how your team utilizes you. Obviously, our team feels like utilizing DD in the passing game is making good use of his talents and given the results, I'd tend to agree.
 
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