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David Carr's Redemption ?

xtruroyaltyx said:
You choose one extreme...Some(myself) choose to be neutral....

No one(me) has said to not be dissapointed with a loss, or even a bad play....

I was ticked at every loss this year....But I'm not ticked anymore....I got over it....I realized that we looked much better in those losses....I realized that Kubiak has the team on the right track....

I think you just need to get over the losses and realize we are moving forward....
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Not sure what extremes you're talking about. I made an observation that the Texans could easily be 4-4. That may have been an unreasonable mid-year prediction before the season started, but after watching us play at TN and NY it's not that far fetched. (implicit in that statement is acknowledged improvement if anyone missed it)

Whether we're on the right track or not will ultimately be judged by wins and losses, not by periods of good play during losses.

Like I said somewhere else, the Texans have a good opportunity to win 3 of their next 5. They need to finish strong (something like 4-4 as opposed to 2-6) in the second half to show fans that there are real signs of progress instead of that notional wait and see - happy loser stuff.

Re: As far as what I need to 'get over,' I've been watching this game for a while and I think have a handle on how to respond to what I see in front of me, thank you very much.

Also, in response to some of the other posts above, learning how to win is as much or more important component of progress/improvement as a Mario sack or another Demeco 10 tackle game. That component is still very much missing and Coach admitted yesterday that he thought more progress would have been made in the W column by now.
 
aj. said:
Not sure what extremes you're talking about. I made an observation that the Texans could easily be 4-4. That may have been an unreasonable prediction at the halfway point before the season started but after watching us play at TN and NY, it's not that far fetched. (implicit in that statement is acknowledged improvement if anyone missed it)

Whether we're on the right track or not will ultimately be judged by wins and losses, not by periods of good play during losses.

Like I said somewhere else, the Texans have a good opportunity to win 3 of their next 5. They need to finish strong (something like 4-4 as opposed to 2-6) in the second half to show fans that there are real signs of progress instead of that notional wait and see - happy loser stuff.

Re: As far as what I need to 'get over,' I've been watching this game for a while and I think have a handle on how to respond to what I see in front of me, thank you very much.

Also, in response to some of the other posts above, learning how to win is as much or more important component of progress/improvement as a Mario sack or another Demeco 10 tackle game. That component is still very much missing and Coach admitted yesterday that he thought more progress would have been made in the W column by now.
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O.k you win.....Let's all be upset and gripe at the loss....

grrrrrrr....I'm mad......
 
I thought Kubiak and the team put themselves in a great position to win the game Sunday. We played our best 3rd quarter all season, and were marching down the field when one player made a mistake by fumbling the ball. How folks can micro-analyze some of these details is beyond me, because I thought we played a great game but lost to the better team (a team that will be a playoff contender and has a good chance of taking the division title).

Sure we made mistakes, and yeah, I was very disappointed in the fumble, the lack of playcalling before the half, and the lack of defensive fire for that last Giants drive. Hindsight is always 20/20 for us armchair QBs.

But c'mon, things are starting to look up, and to be realistic, we were not going to be a winning team this year with our new staff and lack of talent (and depth) at so many positions.
 
Double Barrel said:
But c'mon, things are starting to look up...
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Yeah - this week.

But what about the week before? (rhetorical question)

I'd like to see two well played games in a row. And a W in at least one. Is that too much to ask as we enter the second half of Kubiak's first season? Or should we be content with 3 good quarters this week?
 
aj. said:
Reading comprehension is fundamental.
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I read what you wrote, but didn't feel like responding....

I do now....

aj. said:
Not sure what extremes you're talking about.
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I'm talking about not being able to take the good with the bad...not acknowledging progress being made despite the fact that we still aren't where we're supposed to be....

aj. said:
Whether we're on the right track or not will ultimately be judged by wins and losses, not by periods of good play during losses.
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Bologna....If you can't look at the way we have been playing and see the improvement from last year I don't know what to tell you...Wins and losses are another stat...an important stat, but a stat none the less...You can't judge progress, and improvement by wins and losses...

aj. said:
Like I said somewhere else, the Texans have a good opportunity to win 3 of their next 5. They need to finish strong (something like 4-4 as opposed to 2-6) in the second half to show fans that there are real signs of progress instead of that notional wait and see - happy loser stuff.
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Again....I don't think anyone has said they were happy with the loss...thats crazy talk...I've said it a million times...People are happy with the progress that this team has made, but since you judge progress by stats I guess you can't see it...

aj. said:
Re: As far as what I need to 'get over,' I've been watching this game for a while and I think have a handle on how to respond to what I see in front of me, thank you very much.
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Your Welcome


aj. said:
That component is still very much missing and Coach admitted yesterday that he thought more progress would have been made in the W column by now.
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The coach also said that he was pleased with the PROGRESS some of the players were making....

Point: You can be mad and gripe about the loss all the wat until Sunday for all I care....all I was pointing out is that the team is moving in an upward direction, and I have seen improvement every week....No they haven't made the big jump yet....No they don't have as many wins as some predicted.......ok......But looking at the overall picture I am pleased with the direction we are headed....
 
aj. said:
Yeah - this week.

But what about the week before? (rhetorical question)

I'd like to see two well played games in a row. And a W in at least one. Is that too much to ask as we enter the second half of Kubiak's first season? Or should we be content with 3 good quarters this week?
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3 good quarters this week is still better than 4 lousy quarters every week last season.

I think Kubiak needs to reel in the egos a little and don't let the team think that playing well and losing is a good thing. This week has the making of being a little cocky and arrogant and taking the Jags a little lightly after the butt kicking a few weeks back.

I think they need to come out firing this week and score points on the first drive, which by default means that at no point should we settle for a FG because Kris Brown is the rash on my butt that wont go away. He misses big kicks, and getting on the board first on the first drive against NY would have been huge.

With a soft schedule coming up, the Texans have to be looking at all these games as must wins, for the sake of the psyche of the team.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
You can't judge progress, and improvement by wins and losses...
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xtruroyaltyx said:
I'm talking about not being able to take the good with the bad...not acknowledging progress being made despite the fact that we still aren't where we're supposed to be....
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I've acknowledged progress in spades in this thread and others. Again, take some time to read what I'm saying and let it sink in for a couple seconds before knee jerking your next response to what you think I'm saying or what you think I'm about.

And as far as not being able to take the good with the bad, I've been a NFL season ticket holder in this city for close to 30 years so I have a PhD in taking the bad ... lol ...

...and who answers rhetorical questions anyway? (that's another one)
 
infantrycak said:
Exactly. No one should have expected the Texans to win that game but once they put themselves in a position to do it they needed to sink the gaff in and haul.
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Good teams find ways to win and bad teams find ways to lose. Right now, we're a bad team and even when we put ourself into a position to win, we're not finishing the deal. We're inconsistent. We have all the pieces to win, we just aren't putting them all together at the same time. But, except for the Titans game, we seem to be putting more and more of the pieces together more and more of the time.

If we collapse against the Jags, I'm going to be very bummed. Now is the time we need to start getting it together and start beating teams. Both teams we're supposed to beat and teams we're not supposed to beat.
 
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