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David Carr?

Hulk75 said:
he is going to have to UN-Learn the crap that was stuck in his ears the last couple of years.
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I imagine Carr's not the only one that has to purge what he's been taught previously. It's good we're moving forward.
 
I have dis-liked Carr from the beggining. I always felt we should have went with JP with that pick...but having said that, I do believe that he will be brilliant in kubes system...He's mobile, has a rocket arm and he has some wits about his self...The only thing that concerns me about Carr is that I don't think he has a winners attitude...If we were down in the fourth I wouldn't expect Carr to win it for us...
 
Reviewing the 2002 draft, it seems obvious we were pulling for offensive potential: Carr, Gaffney, and Pitts. WIth all three still playing for the Texans, I will assume these were pretty decent moves. Besides, there were a lot of busts that year. Mike Williams, Joey Harrington, and to some extent, P-Buc (given up by Raiders, but still has a shot at redeeming himself in Houston so long as he doesn't miss tackles). Like most players from the previous regime, this will be a big make-or-break year for them. It is interesting to think that four years later our first two picks are defensive, rather than offensive, players.
 
oso said:
Reviewing the 2002 draft, it seems obvious we were pulling for offensive potential: Carr, Gaffney, and Pitts. WIth all three still playing for the Texans, I will assume these were pretty decent moves. Besides, there were a lot of busts that year. Mike Williams, Joey Harrington, and to some extent, P-Buc (given up by Raiders, but still has a shot at redeeming himself in Houston so long as he doesn't miss tackles). Like most players from the previous regime, this will be a big make-or-break year for them. It is interesting to think that four years later our first two picks are defensive, rather than offensive, players.
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Gaffney is gone...:ok: :ok:
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Gaffney is gone...:ok: :ok:
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Whoops! That's right. He's an Eagle now. I posted that one before I got enough caffeine in me...

Added: I still think we made some good moves and avoided some potential busts.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I have dis-liked Carr from the beggining. I always felt we should have went with JP with that pick...but having said that, I do believe that he will be brilliant in kubes system...He's mobile, has a rocket arm and he has some wits about his self...The only thing that concerns me about Carr is that I don't think he has a winners attitude...If we were down in the fourth I wouldn't expect Carr to win it for us...
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I imagine what would happen if he had a losers attitude...............

He would probably throw people under the bus, when the oppertunity came up.
He would probably be on a new team.
He would probably be sitting at home on work out days geting fat.
Bob McNair probably would have not given a guy with a losers attitude another 3 years here.

Come on man you dont really believe that Carr does not have a winners attitude, when have you ever seen him quit trying to win a ball game.
 
Runner said:
I imagine Carr's not the only one that has to purge what he's been taught previously. It's good we're moving forward.
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NO NO your right we were just talking about Carr, your right all these guys have to un-learn some stuff.
 
Hulk75 said:
NO NO your right we were just talking about Carr, your right all these guys have to un-learn some stuff.
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I know - I was just broadening the (good) point you made to further discussion.
 
Hulk75 said:
I imagine what would happen if he had a losers attitude...............

He would probably throw people under the bus, when the oppertunity came up.
He would probably be on a new team.
He would probably be sitting at home on work out days geting fat.
Bob McNair probably would have not given a guy with a losers attitude another 3 years here.

Come on man you dont really believe that Carr does not have a winners attitude, when have you ever seen him quit trying to win a ball game.
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You are right...But i never said he had a losers attitude...I think I explained myself pretty well...I think we can win with carr, but i don't think Carr will win it for us...But instead of winners attitude, I should've said killer instinct...I just haven't seen anything outta Carr that would lead me to believe that he can put the team on his shoulders and lead us to victory when we really need it...In fact i'll put it like this...If DC flops there won't be many people that are shocked or amazed...and I think mr. mcnair would agree...I heard him on 610 this morning saying that this season he would like to see DC take on more leadership, and accountability...I took that to mean he hasn't shown us thus far, but we all know how bad the situation was last yr. so lets give him a chance....but best believe that if he doesn't show up he probably won't make it outta this season as the texans starter...
 
Hate to say it, but ALL of our players had a losing attitude in 2005.

2-14 is a testament to that fact.
 
I think Kris Brown gets the losing attitude team award though. He made sure we got the first overall selection.
 
And the David Carr universe spins on ... another four pages of Houston's hottest blame game.

Oh, and welcome to the MB, BamaTex. I think it was Lucky that said it ... no hard feelings, you're just filling the quota. Either way, hope you enjoy it here and welcome.
 
BamaTexan said:
As one of the newest Texan fans, I bring a question to the board to get more knowledge of the current starting QB. What is his biggest weakness or area that needs the most improvement? Limited mobility or his arm strength, etc?

BT
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Welcome BamaTexan and it looks like all these yahoos were not quiet as tired of this topic as they said they were huh? :ok: . To put it in a way you might understand it best it is a lot like the coach Joe Kines issue at the Capstone. 2 years ago people were on one side or the other and they defended their side to the death. Thank God Coach Shula just let it play out and we have one of the best defenses in the nation once again. Speaking of....I would guess DeMeco is the person responsable for you coming over to learn about the Texans huh? We are very proud to have him. Welcome, and Roll Tide.
 
WildBlackBear32 said:
That was the BEST play in franchise history. :whip:
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Was it? Had the Texans won that game, the Saints would have drafted 1st and the Texans 2nd. Bush would still be in New Orleans, and Mario would still be here. Not that big of a deal, as it turns out.
 
Lucky said:
Was it? Had the Texans won that game, the Saints would have drafted 1st and the Texans 2nd. Bush would still be in New Orleans, and Mario would still be here. Not that big of a deal, as it turns out.
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And Mario would have been ours for a lesser price tag. GOOD JOB CASSERLY! (yes, everything is his fault)
 
Lucky said:
Bush would still be in New Orleans, and Mario would still be here.
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Who is to say that? At least 5 teams supposedly had Williams #1 on their board. Who is to say one of those 5 wouldn't have traded up? Who is to say Williams wasnt #1 on the Saints board??
 
Lucky said:
Was it? Had the Texans won that game, the Saints would have drafted 1st and the Texans 2nd. Bush would still be in New Orleans, and Mario would still be here. Not that big of a deal, as it turns out.
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I thought we would have slipped further back than 2 if we won that game. :um:
 
Vinny said:
I thought we would have slipped further back than 2 if we won that game. :um:
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The Saints, Texans, and 49ers would have all been the only 3-13 teams.

1. New Orleans
2. Texans
3. 49ers

Remember that the Packers, Jets and 49ers won the last week of the season. That is how the Titans moved up to #3.
 
TheOgre said:
The Saints, Texans, and 49ers would have all been the only 3-13 teams.

1. New Orleans
2. Texans
3. 49ers

Remember that the Packers, Jets and 49ers won the last week of the season. That is how the Titans moved up to #3.
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No, the Titans finished 4-12, minus one win, they would have been 3-13. The order was going to be Saints, Titans, Texans, 9ers.
 
Lucky said:
Was it? Had the Texans won that game, the Saints would have drafted 1st and the Texans 2nd. Bush would still be in New Orleans, and Mario would still be here. Not that big of a deal, as it turns out.
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For about 10M cheaper, at that. But wait, I thought we would have ended up drafting fourth.

Edit: That's what I get for posting without reading subsequent posts.
 
WildBlackBear32 said:
No, the Titans finished 4-12, minus one win, they would have been 3-13. The order was going to be Saints, Titans, Texans, 9ers.
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Who said anything about the Titans getting one less win? All we were talking about was if the 49ers had lost to the Texans the last game of the year. If that happened, then the order would have been what I posted. The Titans would have drafted #4.
 
TheOgre said:
Who said anything about the Titans getting one less win? All we were talking about was if the 49ers had lost to the Texans the last game of the year. If that happened, then the order would have been what I posted. The Titans would have drafted #4.
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Oh...I thought we were talking about the Titans game, given that was when Brown's kick took place...
 
WildBlackBear32 said:
Oh...I thought we were talking about the Titans game, given that was when Brown's kick took place...
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I was, though Brown did miss a chippy in the 49er game.

And you're right in that the Texans would have drafted 3rd had they defeated the Titans on the road. But that FG would have only forced OT. They still would have had another chance at blowing that game. But the draft order would have been:

1. Saints (They say they would have taken Bush, had Hawk #2 on their board)
2. Titans (Bud would have made then take Vince)
3. Texans (Still get Super Mario)

Now if the Texans had defeated both the Titans and the Niners, they would have drafted 4th. Then the Niners at #3 probably would have taken Mario. And the Texans would have been "stuck" with D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
 
oso said:
Reviewing the 2002 draft, it seems obvious we were pulling for offensive potential: Carr, Gaffney, and Pitts. WIth all three still playing for the Texans, I will assume these were pretty decent moves. Besides, there were a lot of busts that year. Mike Williams, Joey Harrington, and to some extent, P-Buc (given up by Raiders, but still has a shot at redeeming himself in Houston so long as he doesn't miss tackles). Like most players from the previous regime, this will be a big make-or-break year for them. It is interesting to think that four years later our first two picks are defensive, rather than offensive, players.
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Nope........

You can't call Harrington a Bust, and not call Carr a bust.....

& I'm sure someone's informed you that Gaffney is gone......... I'd be mad as heck, if we didn't pick up Moulds.... I liked Gaff.........

jerek said:
And the David Carr universe spins on ... another four pages of Houston's hottest blame game.

Oh, and welcome to the MB, BamaTex. I think it was Lucky that said it ... no hard feelings, you're just filling the quota. Either way, hope you enjoy it here and welcome.
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get over it.... nobody is blaming Carr for anything. He played like as..s Pitts did as well. so did McKinney, Bradford, Coleman, Buchannon, Wiegart, & Faggins.....

Why don't you stick up for one of those guys everynow and then??
 
SESupergenius said:
And Mario would have been ours for a lesser price tag. GOOD JOB CASSERLY! (yes, everything is his fault)
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You're Crazy...... N.O. would have done the same thing as us, and picked Mario. we'd have had to take D'Brick......
 
Lucky said:
1. Saints (They say they would have taken Bush, had Hawk #2 on their board)
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They said no such thing.... one of their fans said that crap to put a thorn in our sides... there's no way AJ would have gone #2......

And don't forget..... "eeeeeeeeverybody" here thought we had Reggie #1 on our board, and I garuntee you we never seriously considered him playing in HOuston.... sign him cheap, get the deal done, then trade him...... that was the only way we were going to get any value out of him.

and then nooooooobody was considering Vince in the top 10.

Yet..... some folks still predict stuff, like they know what they are talking about.
 
oso said:
Reviewing the 2002 draft, it seems obvious we were pulling for offensive potential: Carr, Gaffney, and Pitts. WIth all three still playing for the Texans, I will assume these were pretty decent moves. Besides, there were a lot of busts that year. Mike Williams, Joey Harrington, and to some extent, P-Buc (given up by Raiders, but still has a shot at redeeming himself in Houston so long as he doesn't miss tackles). Like most players from the previous regime, this will be a big make-or-break year for them. It is interesting to think that four years later our first two picks are defensive, rather than offensive, players.
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Kubes was full of praise for P-Buc on the Texans news on this site today. I haven't been a p-buc fan since the first game he played here but if Kubes praise is deserved I think we can all stand to step back and keep an open mind about all of 'em.
 
thunderkyss said:
They said no such thing.... one of their fans said that crap to put a thorn in our sides... there's no way AJ would have gone #2......
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No, that was a report from Gary Myers of the the New York Daily News.

The Texans shook up the draft when they passed on Reggie Bush. But if they had taken him, then the Saints were going to shake things up at No. 2. They planned to take Ohio State LB A.J. Hawk over D’Brickashaw Ferguson or Mario Williams. New Orleans wanted to trade down a few spots to get Hawk, but if the Saints couldn’t make a deal, they were just going to take him at No. 2. The Titans still would have taken Vince Young, meaning the Jets would have had their choice of Ferguson or Williams.
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IT's still speculation. There's no way to know now....

I still find that hard to believe. Of course if I were a New Orleans insider, and I was asked..... of course I would say that I wasn't going to pick Mario(even though I had every intention to. Don't want another team knowing I got one upped). Heck, I could say I was going to pick Darnell Bing, doesn't make it true.
 
thunderkyss said:
IT's still speculation. There's no way to know now....

I still find that hard to believe. Of course if I were a New Orleans insider, and I was asked..... of course I would say that I wasn't going to pick Mario(even though I had every intention to. Don't want another team knowing I got one upped). Heck, I could say I was going to pick Darnell Bing, doesn't make it true.
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Indeed, deception is a fun thing about front office work.
 
thunderkyss said:
You're Crazy...... N.O. would have done the same thing as us, and picked Mario. we'd have had to take D'Brick......
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I was being facetious. Not everything is Casserly's fault, but it's just too easy to slap every blame on him. Name me something wrong with anything in the world and I will 6 degree it back to Casserly.:shoot:
 
I was being facetious. Not everything is Casserly's fault, but it's just too easy to slap every blame on him. Name me something wrong with anything in the world and I will 6 degree it back to Casserly.
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haha, alright - world hunger
 
SESupergenius said:
I was being facetious. Not everything is Casserly's fault, but it's just too easy to slap every blame on him. Name me something wrong with anything in the world and I will 6 degree it back to Casserly.:shoot:
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Poverty.....
 
SESupergenius said:
I was being facetious. Not everything is Casserly's fault, but it's just too easy to slap every blame on him. Name me something wrong with anything in the world and I will 6 degree it back to Casserly.:shoot:
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evil....
 
SESupergenius said:
I was being facetious. Not everything is Casserly's fault, but it's just too easy to slap every blame on him. Name me something wrong with anything in the world and I will 6 degree it back to Casserly.:shoot:
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Michael Jackson's nose........
 
SESupergenius said:
I was being facetious. Not everything is Casserly's fault, but it's just too easy to slap every blame on him. Name me something wrong with anything in the world and I will 6 degree it back to Casserly.:shoot:
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$7 beers
 
ok that is just way too many requests, maybe I'll take just one, but geez you swear I get paid for this!:superman: I spend enough of my supergenious capabilities on you clowns already.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
$7 beers
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Oh that's way too easy.

1. $7 beers were implemented by the Concessions department at Reliant Park

2. Reliant Park is the current office of Marilan Logan

3. Marilan Logan reported to Bob McNair that the Texans were losing stadium revenue.

4. Bob McNair hired Charley Casserly


Did it in 4!
 
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