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David Carr
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supertankman
Noob
Proteus said:
So you are the MAN! Get serious and start putting your focus towards real issues like our online and our rookie defense, our defense gave up 20 points today and you cant blame one man for that! The D did not give our offense any hope for success! The steelers were backed up inside the 20 when we were only down by 6 when Babin had a false start penalty and the f-agg boy (faggins) gave up that bomb, that was the game! Give the real MAN, DC a chance to win the game! Look at Leftwich against the colts, at least he had a chance to tie the game up wth 60 seconds down by 7. The Jags had a total of 3 points!
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
CajunTexan said:
More than that, Babs jumped off sides and turned a potential come back into a forty yard bomb. At my last count, twenty eight times Carr was under assult on passing plays. Carr is the conveint target in here, but it ain't all David Carr. He'll win somewhere for someone one day. He is a good young qb. It is his misfortune he's playing for a ****** organazation. JMHO.
Honch Delgado
Waterboy
As far as Carr flourishing under another team, I seem to remember Tony Banks not doing so bad in his starts. I don't see the reasoning of people on the boards saying put Carr on another team and bam SB contender and MVP. I was high on the guy when we drafted him and supported him for 3 seasons, but the more he plays the more he looks like Ramsey, Boller, and the rest. A lot of the sacks today were on him. He played well at the start of the 3rd when he stepped into the pocket and quick released or when we utilized the play action. Other than that he kept rolling when he didn't have to or stepped right into the block direction. But the whole team needs to be reevaluated not just carr. Armstrong was the only bright spot today.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
WWJD said:
Big Ben went to Miami of Ohio. Yet another very talented QB from the MAC. (Lefty, Big Ben, Pennington, Jacobs)
Texans Horror
All Pro
No interceptions. 46 yards rushing. (DD had 59)
Versus: what was it? 8 sacks, 9 rushes? Come on. Let's not turn him into an escape goat.
Versus: what was it? 8 sacks, 9 rushes? Come on. Let's not turn him into an escape goat.
Reddevil63
Veteran
hahaha, the only thing handed to him was a few 300 lb d-linemen every week for the first 4 years.
vtech9
All Pro
for those that didn't watch the game, don't put too much into the "sacks". David Carr ran out of bounds, behind the line of scrimmage, 4 times. Those 4 times were counted as "sacks" and cost the Texans yardage. Every one of those times, Carr had plenty of time to throw the ball away. One of the "sacks" is going to be credited to D. Davis, but it was actually DD's fault. If Carr would have stepped up into the pocket, or at least underneath Davis, he would not have been sacked. Instead, Carr tried to run around Troy P., and that just wasn't very smart.oso said:
Carr does not use his blockers well. He also does not read defenses well. He doesn't have very good field vision. He is not making very good decisions. Right now, he is not giving the Texans the best chance to win. Granted, the O-line and playcalling need to improve, but if Carr made better decisions, the Texans had a chance to win both games.
The Texans Defense has its problems as well. they are playing too soft in the secondary, and P-Buch looked more like puke.
ROYDESTROY
Noob
texan2061 said:
The honeymoon is over...Carr is lookin to be a bust..3 years he must produce..no more excuses..stop drinking the kool aid..he has not produced..great post a slap in the
face..but much needed before the Texans get betterthe number one issue with this team is and always has been time for Carr to throw. He has never had it since he was drafted. We saw flashes of Carr's above average play, but never fully viewed.
MEMO TO CASSERLY AND CAPERS: FIX THE LINE TO AVERAGE AND THIS TEAM WILL KNOCK ON THE PLAYOFF DOOR! NEXT FIX THE RECEIVER CORE AND THIS TEAM IS IN THE PLAYOFFS. NEXT FIX THE FAILURE TO PROVIDE A RUSH AND THIS TEAM WILL GO FURTHER IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Carr can play--I believe. He will do well if given time, not great however. But, better than average for certain.
Now, the question is: is he damaged goods. I do not think so. if given 4 seconds to throw the ball on an average basis, johnson will get open and davis will run the ball with more consistency.....
THE AXE FALLS ON CASSERLY FIRST, CAPERS SECOND, PALMER THIRD, MCNAIR FOURTH FOR NOT GETTING BETTER FROM ALL
MEMO TO CASSERLY AND CAPERS: FIX THE LINE TO AVERAGE AND THIS TEAM WILL KNOCK ON THE PLAYOFF DOOR! NEXT FIX THE RECEIVER CORE AND THIS TEAM IS IN THE PLAYOFFS. NEXT FIX THE FAILURE TO PROVIDE A RUSH AND THIS TEAM WILL GO FURTHER IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Carr can play--I believe. He will do well if given time, not great however. But, better than average for certain.
Now, the question is: is he damaged goods. I do not think so. if given 4 seconds to throw the ball on an average basis, johnson will get open and davis will run the ball with more consistency.....
THE AXE FALLS ON CASSERLY FIRST, CAPERS SECOND, PALMER THIRD, MCNAIR FOURTH FOR NOT GETTING BETTER FROM ALL
mike88 said:
No i refuse to make a blockbuster trade you know why we dont need too David Carr is going to guarantee we get Matt LionHeart we are going to get the number one overall pick so i guess in a way its good to have DC starting if we had banks or ragone we might actually have a chance of wining. and we dont want that not anymore this is a lost season.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
From another thread. My opinion on this in a nutshell.
Yes he was. I spent the entire afternoon doing nothing but watching David Carr in the pocket since there wasn't much doubt about the outcome of the game from early on. I paid for the ticket so I decided to put the time to good use for a change. Usually I'm too wound up and emotional to do more than scream at the appropriate moments and watch the ball. Today I had a strange feeling of calm come over me as I watched them come apart and mostly I ignored the ball. I watched the offensive line and the defence prior to the snap. After that I just watched Carr and when he took a snap I counted.
People, everbody. I know this is hard to accept but David Carr really stinks. Whether it's something he brought with him (I personally doubt it) or something he has become since he was drafted by the Texans (my view) can be debated but the fact remains. This guy is damaged goods and one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL right now.
Happy feet, bad decisions, failure to learn even the most basic concepts needed to play his position. You name it and it can be pinned on David Carr right now. If I were the Texans coaches I'd bench him just to stop the carnage, His line is getting him sacked about 15% of the time. His line and his backs and tight ends combined are probably responsible for 40-50% of his problems. The rest is all David.
I don't see how anyone with eyes to see could continue to defend David Carr's play after this weekend. In two weeks the Bengals will continue this trail of destruction. Carr is very possibly done here folks.
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TexanAggie said:
Yes he was. I spent the entire afternoon doing nothing but watching David Carr in the pocket since there wasn't much doubt about the outcome of the game from early on. I paid for the ticket so I decided to put the time to good use for a change. Usually I'm too wound up and emotional to do more than scream at the appropriate moments and watch the ball. Today I had a strange feeling of calm come over me as I watched them come apart and mostly I ignored the ball. I watched the offensive line and the defence prior to the snap. After that I just watched Carr and when he took a snap I counted.
People, everbody. I know this is hard to accept but David Carr really stinks. Whether it's something he brought with him (I personally doubt it) or something he has become since he was drafted by the Texans (my view) can be debated but the fact remains. This guy is damaged goods and one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL right now.
Happy feet, bad decisions, failure to learn even the most basic concepts needed to play his position. You name it and it can be pinned on David Carr right now. If I were the Texans coaches I'd bench him just to stop the carnage, His line is getting him sacked about 15% of the time. His line and his backs and tight ends combined are probably responsible for 40-50% of his problems. The rest is all David.
I don't see how anyone with eyes to see could continue to defend David Carr's play after this weekend. In two weeks the Bengals will continue this trail of destruction. Carr is very possibly done here folks.
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Hervoyel said:
TY for opening your eyes some of dont just say what we say just to say it i have seen every texans games over and over again and i can count with three fingers how many good games david carr has had and i simply demand more from a QB much less a "Franchise Player" but you will have these homers never admiting to our mistakes as a franchise.
If we address all the problems with this team, our collective head will spin off our neck.CajunTexan said:
(close as I could get to a disembodied head)Keep it simple and bash the QB. Carr's paid well to handle it. He should have backed up Bradford & AJ on the balls they dropped. He should have devised a blocking scheme that can slow down a zone blitz. He should have put pressure on Big Ben. He shouldn't have jumped offsides on 3rd down. He should have knocked Parker on his rear rather than give him a love tap.
Carr has to make these plays, because he's the QB and no one else on this team will. Hopefully, Carr will remain the starter for the rest of the season, so we'll have an easy target to blame. Whether Carr is the Texans QB in '06 is the next regime's problem.
Bingo! I'm glad someone besides myself has opened their eyes to the utter display of bad football brought on by David Carr. Maybe he would bloom into a desent QB after a year or two on the bench. You can see that from Year 1 to the Present, that Carr has stumbled over himself and became a disaster. At one point he might have shown promise, but as the games when on... his head became too big for his helmet. From Fresno State to the NFL, fame and glory are what I think brought this QB into his demise. Step back Carr... look at your team... you have brought shame into this franchise. Like you said, "Preseason's over..." I say, "Welcome to the Big Leagues, Golden Boy." ~Proteus
Goldeagle
Veteran
Carr cannot block, catch, throw and run! Then again NO ONE ON THE TEAM CAN EITHER!
Anyone blaming Carr is absolutly stupid! We played 2 great defenses and it was to be expected. MY 5 BUDDIES from Pittsburgh who went to the game talked all the way home about Daivd Carr and how pathetic the team looks around him. IF PITTSBURGH FAN IS SAYING THAT, SHOULDNT WE??
Anyone blaming Carr is absolutly stupid! We played 2 great defenses and it was to be expected. MY 5 BUDDIES from Pittsburgh who went to the game talked all the way home about Daivd Carr and how pathetic the team looks around him. IF PITTSBURGH FAN IS SAYING THAT, SHOULDNT WE??
Elite said:Keep your garbage QB rating show me you can win a game.show me you can lead a team from behind show me your not gonna fumble. the fumble was key play of the game after that we never had a chance.
Unfortunately, teams win games and teams come from behind... not individual players.