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Darren Sharper - Rapist?

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Well, so says the state of California, and I guess he is being looked at elsewhere. Mods, wasn't sure if this has an open thread. Please merge if there is one. I could not find it.

The Los Angeles County district attorney's office says former NFL defensive back Darren Sharper has been charged with drugging and raping two women.

A district attorney's statement says Sharper will be arraigned Friday on two counts of rape by use of drugs, four counts of furnishing a controlled substance and one count of possession of a controlled substance.

The felony case involves alleged incidents in October and January. Prosecutors say Sharper met women at a West Hollywood nightclub, invited them to a party but stopped at his hotel room, where the crimes are alleged to have occurred.

Sharper was arrested Jan. 17 and released on $200,000 bail.

Prosecutors will seek to raise his bail to $10 million because the Miami, Fla., resident faces similar investigations elsewhere.
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Dude's a psychopath. From KFFL:
Sharper, 38, is accused of raping two women whom he had invited back to his hotel room. He reportedly gave them liquid shots containing Ambien and morphine, causing them to pass out. One woman woke up while Sharper was assaulting her, while the other woke up naked hours later. It's been requested that bail be set at $10 million because Sharper is being investigated for rapes in L.A., New Orleans, Nevada and Arizona.
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What happens when a guy like this goes to prison and then has major knee, back, concussion-related, etc. problems while in there?
 
The Sharper brothers (Jamie and Darren) were well spoken, intelligent and good-looking guys with money.

It's unfortunate to know that certain people, irrespective of all those "graces of life" that Darren had a screw loose. Why would a good looking guy with money need to drug chicks to EFF!!

Serial rapist? Maybe.. He had allegations to this same M/O before.

If found guilty, he should be rated slightly under Orenthal but around or slightly higher than Rae Carruth as POS NFL players... (Not to mention Aaron Hernandez - we'll see how that turns out as well)

#RobertRozier #WhiteDevil
 
Holy s##t this is one ugly story. I also don't get having to resort to this behavior when it would seem sharper could score with the ladies. If true this man is truly depraved and will suffer for it.
 
I never understand why guys like that have to resort to sexual assault. Especially in this case which isn't even a "no means no".. heat of the moment date rape. If true, this was planned and premeditated. You would think with all the resources these jackasses have to work with (Looks, top athletic build, and a crap load of money) they wouldn't have to physically force or drug women to have sex with them. I just don't get it.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
Holy s##t this is one ugly story. I also don't get having to resort to this behavior when it would seem sharper could score with the ladies. If true this man is truly depraved and will suffer for it.
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Carr Bombed said:
I never understand why guys like that have to resort to sexual assault. Especially in this case which isn't even a "no means no".. heat of the moment date rape. If true, this was planned and premeditated. You would think with all the resources these jackasses have to work with (Looks, top athletic build, and a crap load of money) they wouldn't have to physically force or drug women to have sex with them. I just don't get it.
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People who commit rape aren't doing it to get "laid" it often has a lot more to do with control, domination etc not just oh I need to get laid today
 
2012Champs said:
People who commit rape aren't doing it to get "laid" it often has a lot more to do with control, domination etc not just oh I need to get laid today
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There's many different types of rape. More often than not the rapist is just trying to get "laid" in the heat of the moment. I grew up as a only brother surrounded by older sisters and you'd be surprised by the # of women who have been "rapped". it's sickening.

(If true) The type of rape that this Sharper brother did falls under is by far the most dangerous, because it was planned (Screams serial rapist and a perp who is a masochist) and his next step is murder. If true he's a sick individual who needs serious help.
 
Carr Bombed said:
There's many different types of rape. More often than not the rapist is just trying to get "laid" in the heat of the moment. I grew up as a only brother surrounded by older sisters and you'd be surprised by the # of women who have been "rapped". it's sickening.

(If true) The type of rape that this Sharper brother did falls under is by far the most dangerous, because it was planned (Screams serial rapist) and his next step is murder. If true he's a sick individual who needs serious help.
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Well I'm not sure where you are getting your information from other than your sisters or their friends but I don't think you would find much support in the medical field that would say the majority of rapes because the offender wanted to get laid. Think about those questioning this case yourself included. If Sharper wanted to get laid it would take far less effort than what he is accused of doing
 
2012Champs said:
Well I'm not sure where you are getting your information from other than your sisters or their friends but I don't think you would find much support in the medical field that would say the majority of rapes because the offender wanted to get laid. Think about those questioning this case yourself included. If Sharper wanted to get laid it would take far less effort than what he is accused of doing
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Well since my mother is a RN as well as two of my sisters are RNs (medical field) :rolleyes:.. what you just typed is false and you simply don't know what you're talking about regarding this topic.

and please list where I "questioned this case". I think this ahole is guilty as crap. I simply separated him from being a dick who can't accept the word no and forces himself on a woman (where by far the majority of rape happens/takes place.. i.e. wanting to get laid) from a monster who premeditates, sets his trap, and plans his rape. Rape is rape and it comes in many different shapes and sizes, but those type of people (if true..Sharper) are much more dangerous and they're sadistic.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Well since my mother is a RN as well as two of my sisters are RNs (medical field).. what you just typed is completely FOS and you simply don't know what you're talking about regarding this topic.
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The reports I have read agree with 2012. Women have been saying for years rape is about power more than sex. In the NSZ I posted a quote from military.com about the military having to retrain commanders and JAG officers the same thing and they specifically mentioned the majority of the time sexual assaults on male servicemembers is committed by heterosexual males as an act of hazing or dominance.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Well since my mother is a RN as well as two of my sisters are RNs (medical field) :rolleyes:.. what you just typed is completely FOS and you simply don't know what you're talking about regarding this topic.
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Sorry a couple of RNs don't make up the medical field and they are limited in fact on their knowledge. Do some research on the topic and also apply some common sense. How much work does it take for a nfl player or celeb to get laid? How much effort did Sharper go through to have total control, dominance over these women?

You questioned why someone like this had to resort to sexual assault. Here's a clue it's not just about sex
 
Why Do Men Rape?

...Why do human beings rape each other?

The answer is a nebulous muddle of biological, psychological and sociocultural factors, the nuances of which would be impossible to capture in a two-minute segment on the local news. So, reporter Robbie Owens turns instead to a Dallas psychologist/and expert-witness-for-hire named Bill Flynn.

"It's about sex," Flynn declares. "Rape is about getting sex ... When I have interviewed my guys and I have asked them why they did it, they all said it was about sex. They didn't say anything about need to humiliate somebody."
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The academic research on the topic is much less definitive. The prevailing view among feminists and some social scientists for the past four decades or so, popularized by Susan Brownmiller's 1975 book Against Our Will: Men, Women and Rape, is that sexual assault is more about power than sex.

In the first chapter, Brownmiller writes:

[O]ne of the earliest forms of male bonding must have been the gang rape of one woman by a band of marauding men. This accomplished, rape became not only a male prerogative, but man's basic weapon of force against woman, the principal agent of his will and her fear. His forcible entry into her body, despite her physical protestations and struggle, became the vehicle of his victorious conquest over her being, the ultimate test of his superior strength, the triumph of his manhood.
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On the opposite end of the spectrum is the notion that evolution has hard-wired the urge to rape into human males, expressed most forcefully in the more academic book A Natural History of Rape: Biological Bases of Sexual Coercion. In it, biologist Randy Thornhill and anthropologist Craig Palmer write:

When one is considering any feature of living things, whether evolution applies is never a question. The only legitimate question is how to apply evolutionary principles. This is the case for all human behaviors -- even for such by-products as cosmetic surgery, the content of movies, legal systems, and fashion trends.

The crucial legitimate scientific debate about the evolutionary cause of human rape concerns whether rape is a result of rape-specific adaptation or a by-product of other adaptations.
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It's safe to say the truth falls somewhere between those two extremes. Social scientists just haven't come to an agreement on where and probably never will, meaning the ideal approach toward rape prevention will forever be elusive. Luckily, CBS 11 knows who's best suited to identifying rapists.

"Kindergarten teachers," Flynn tells the station. "This behavior of not caring about what happens to others and being a bully comes out very early."
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Psychology Today -- Is rape about control or sex?
Stranger rape takes different forms, including a political version and a sadistic version but the majority of sexual assaults are more about sexual gratification than control over women per se. But what can one say about date rape? Is this extremely common form of rape consistent with the feminist pattern of men controlling women, or does it fit more neatly within the evolutionary psychological perspective where rape is primarily a sexual crime?

The inherent conflict in date rape is not really about consent to some level of sexual intimacy because some degree of consent is implied by a woman agreeing to go out with the man. The real issue is not a difference over whether to engage in physical intimacy but rather as to the degree of intimacy and its timing.

In other words, it is not an either/or situation. Date rape is a sexual crime but it is also about who controls the interaction, an issue of great concern for feminists, and for women in general. In other words, date rape mixes up the feminist perspective on rape with the evolutionary one.
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/is-rape-about-control-or-sex
 
infantrycak said:
The reports I have read agree with 2012. Women have been saying for years rape is about power more than sex. In the NSZ I posted a quote from military.com about the military having to retrain commanders and JAG officers the same thing and they specifically mentioned the majority of the time sexual assaults on male servicemembers is committed by heterosexual males as an act of hazing or dominance.
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Where did I ever suggest rape wasn't about power?, If women were stronger than men, rape wouldn't happen.. every successful rape is a result of power regardless if it is emotionally or physically driven.

That still doesn't change the fact that the majority of rapes happen because certain males can't take the answer no. All I said was that Darren Sharper's actions were far more dangerous and went far beyond just a spur of the moment rape (i.e. on a date and refused to take the answer NO) and that there is many different types of rape (If you want stats 70% of rapes go unreported and the small amount that do make it to court, only 2% result in convictions.)

All I said was that Darren Sharper's actions were far more dangerous and went far beyond just a spur of the moment rape. I simply don't understand why anybody would even try to argue against that or start to question the first hand account from women or their career path.
 
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2012Champs said:
Sorry a couple of RNs don't make up the medical field and they are limited in fact on their knowledge.
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This is by far one of the most sexiest and incorrect things I've ever read on this board, do me a favor. The next time you are unfortunate enough to find yourself in a emergency situation and in the hospital. Please pay attention to who does the triage and most of your care.. RNs and nurses in general make up the medical field and are the ones who run the hospital they work at and they aren't "limited in their fact or knowledge". I'll take a nurses opinion over a doctors any day of the week. They are the ones on the front line.


2012Champs said:
Do some research on the topic and also apply some common sense. How much work does it take for a nfl player or celeb to get laid? How much effort did Sharper go through to have total control, dominance over these women?

You questioned why someone like this had to resort to sexual assault. Here's a clue it's not just about sex
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Umm what I typed wasn't exclusive to Sharper and I've applied plenty of common sense and have done the research.. I suggest you do the same, because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. All types of violence is about "control and dominance" Men who beat the hell out of woman do it out of control and dominance.. but it still doesn't mean they want to **** every thing in sight. Those who do, do it because they want sexual pleasure on top of their sense of control and dominance.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Where did I ever suggest rape wasn't about power?, If women were stronger than men, rape wouldn't happen.. every successful rape is a result of power regardless if it is emotionally or physically driven.

That still doesn't change the fact that the majority of rapes happen because certain males can't take the answer no. All I said was that Darren Sharper's actions were far more dangerous and went far beyond just a spur of the moment rape (on a date and refused to take the answer NO) and that there is many different types of rape (If you want stats 70% of rapes go unreported and the small amount that do make it to court, only 2% result in convictions.)

All I said was that Darren Sharper's actions were far more dangerous and went far beyond just a spur of the moment rape. I simply don't understand why anybody would even try to argue against that or start to question the first hand account from women or their career path.
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Great Post

I think 2012 likes to argue just to argue sometimes.
 
Carr Bombed said:
This is by far one of the most sexiest and incorrect things I've ever read on this board, do me a favor. The next time you are unfortunate enough to find yourself in a emergency situation and in the hospital. Please pay attention to who does the triage and most of your care.. RNs and nurses in general make up the medical field and are the ones who run the hospital they work at and they aren't "limited in their fact or knowledge". I'll take a nurses opinion over a doctors any day of the week. They are the ones on the front line.




Umm what I typed wasn't exclusive to Sharper and I've applied plenty of common sense and have done the research.. I suggest you do the same, because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. All types of violence is about "control and dominance" Men who beat the hell out of woman do it out of control and dominance.. but it still doesn't mean they want to **** every thing in sight. Those who do, do it because they want sexual pleasure on top of their sense of control and dominance.
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If you understood rape wasn't just about getting laid then you wouldn't have to wonder why sharper or people like him would resort to sexual assault
 
2012Champs said:
If you understood rape wasn't just about getting laid then you wouldn't have to wonder why sharper or people like him would resort to sexual assault
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If you weren't so shortsighted and understood the many different means that drives a person to comment rape to begin with this conversation wouldn't even exist.
 
2012Champs said:
If you think my comment was sexist there is something wrong with your comprehension skills or you are overly sensitive
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There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills, but in case that there was.. feel free to further explain how R.N. (LVN or nurses in general) don't make up or represent a medical field. Educate me.
 
Carr Bombed said:
There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills, but in case that there was.. feel free to further explain how R.N. (LVN or nurses in general) don't make up or represent a medical field. Educate me.
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RNs do not represent the medical field in its entirety. There are people with MDs and PhDs that are better specializations and greater experiance that would have to e included than a random sampling of 3 RNs. Nothing I said was sexist though
 
Carr Bombed said:
If you weren't so shortsighted and understood the many different means that drives a person to comment rape to begin with this conversation wouldn't even exist.
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Why then did you have to question why sharper with all his attributes had to turn to sexual assault then?
 
Geez, can't we all just agree that Sharper (if this is true) is a sick piece of crap and move on? This particular NFL forum is open to guests, which could include kids. Take it to the NSZ if you must continue. I don't know why that would be needed.
 
Well according to law and order svu, rape is about control and power....either way this is sick and dude needs to "get his", Im sure prison will give it to him
 
Playoffs said:
Who'd want to have sex with an unconscious woman? Dude had them in his room -- it's like he prefers it that way.
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I believe this is a fetish with Sharper. It's quite common -sex with the unconscious or with a sleeping partner, is called somnopholia. Just google porn and sleep.

And yes, that's still make him a rapist.
 
klockWork said:
I believe this is a fetish with Sharper. It's quite common -sex with the unconscious or with a sleeping partner, is called somnopholia. Just google porn and sleep.

And yes, that's still make him a rapist.
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ding ding, we have a winner. This is all I was trying to say. This had nothing to do with "power and control", it was all about feeding the beast and filling a sick need. If those women followed him up to his bedroom he could of just had a manaja twa with two women that were willing, but that wasn't good enough for him. All his actions were premeditated and planned before hand. (which is why this goes beyond being just a simple rape case.) Sharper (if guilty) is a sick individual and needs serious help.
 
Carr Bombed said:
ding ding, we have a winner. This is all I was trying to say. This had nothing to do with "power and control", it was all about feeding the beast and filling a sick need. If those women followed him up to his bedroom he could of just had a manaja twa with two women that were willing, but that wasn't good enough for him. All his actions were premeditated and planned before hand. (which is why this goes beyond being just a simple rape case.) Sharper (if guilty) is a sick individual and needs serious help.
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No the bold is where you go off the rails. Having some sexual element does not foreclose power and control as being involved or the overriding interest. Assuming this somnophilia theory is correct, what makes you think that doesn't involved power and control - pick whether it happens, pick when it happens, pick without consideration of the other person what happens i.e. not only satisfy a sexual urge but do so in complete control of every detail of the interaction.
 
infantrycak said:
No the bold is where you go off the rails. Having some sexual element does not foreclose power and control as being involved or the overriding interest. Assuming this somnophilia theory is correct, what makes you think that doesn't involved power and control - pick whether it happens, pick when it happens, pick without consideration of the other person what happens i.e. not only satisfy a sexual urge but do so in complete control of every detail of the interaction.
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and the bold is where your train wrecked and you admit the obvious overriding interest or need to fill. Power and control is a given..but it isn't the driving force. You and I have power and control over many things, when I take a shower I have control over the temp and have the power to activate it. I have the power and control to manipulate my kid into doing what I want (sometimes). I have power and control over my vehicle every morning as I navigate to work... yet I don't have the urge to pull out my **** and rape in these situations. If true, what drove Sharper to this goes far beyond power and control over something. It was sexually driven and a sick fetish.
 
Carr Bombed said:
and the bold is where your train wrecked and you admit the obvious overriding interest or need to fill. Power and control is a given..but it isn't the driving force.
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Unlike you, I haven't made any definitive statements that it is all one or the other. And admitting sexual interest is part of the motivation is not an admission it is the driving force.

You have never come up with a credible explanation how sex is the driving force when that could be had willingly.
 
Carr Bombed said:
and the bold is where your train wrecked and you admit the obvious overriding interest or need to fill. Power and control is a given..but it isn't the driving force. You and I have power and control over many things, when I take a shower I have control over the temp and have the power to activate it. I have the power and control to manipulate my kid into doing what I want (sometimes). I have power and control over my vehicle every morning as I navigate to work... yet I don't have the urge to pull out my **** and rape in these situations. If true, what drove Sharper to this goes far beyond power and control over something. It was sexually driven and a sick fetish.
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You would think with all the resources these jackasses have to work with (Looks, top athletic build, and a crap load of money) they wouldn't have to physically force or drug women to have sex with them. I just don't get it.
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Given Sharper's situation as you put it and the fact you don't get it, it's more than sex and the power/control is a large part of drugging or forcing someone to do something they don't want to. I'm sure Sharper could just get laid without much effort if that's what he was lookin for
 
infantrycak said:
Unlike you, I haven't made any definitive statements that it is all one or the other. And admitting sexual interest is part of the motivation is not an admission it is the driving force.

You have never come up with a credible explanation how sex is the driving force when that could be had willingly.
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so you have made definitive statements.. whatever floats your boat counselor :rolleyes:
 
2012Champs said:
Given Sharper's situation as you put it and the fact you don't get it, it's more than sex and the power/control is a large part of drugging or forcing someone to do something they don't want to. I'm sure Sharper could just get laid without much effort if that's what he was lookin for
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What you just described has nothing to do with power and control issues. He already had that by luring two women up to his room. He could of easily just had casual sex with both of them and been on his way. What you described was his need to fill some sick fetish.. hence why a sexual need is what fueled him and was the obvious driving force in this situation.
 
Carr Bombed said:
What you just described has nothing to do with power and control issues. He already had that by luring two women up to his room. He could of easily just had casual sex with both of them and been on his way. What you described was his need to fill some sick fetish.. hence why a sexual need is what fueled him and was the obvious driving force in this situation.
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You either can't admit you are incorrect or you simply can't see the forest for the trees.
 
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