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Todd Wade is my first guess then it would be Morlon Greenwood. Nothing against you OSO, but are you sure this is a credible source?
 
Wade is going to be the guy, everyone's known it for months, especially since we got Spencer and Winston in the 3rd round.
 
threetoedpete said:
If it is Wade, and I hate to see anybody's rice bowl cracked.....That would mean that Eric is doing OK and penciled in @ ORT ?

For the time being that means Wiegert is penciled in at RT--right where he played in the mini-camps, ahead of Wade and Winston.
 
done88 said:
yes I did and I've seen AC at the YMCA working out while he was in town to visit Wong and his sister. Nice guy but little cocky.

You'd be cocky too if you fooled around with Jesse Spano before her stripper years.
 
There's the scent of blood in the water and the sharks are circling.

<insert Jaws music here>
 
"We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week."

Name the movie...
 
the wonger need food said:
"We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week."

Name the movie...

Office Space...good movie.

Anyway, look at the positions we have the most depth in and too much money in.
 
I would have thought the best time was Monday morning, just as they're getting up. Call them and you might even get a, "Thank you, zzzzzzzzzzzz....click."
 
the wonger need food said:
"We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week."

Name the movie...
Office Space! Shot right here in the ATX!

I know Wade is a bigger hit if we cut him this year than he would be if we kept him, but what happens next year? If we cut him now, do we still owe on him next year? Maybe our coaching staff/front office are thinking that this year is a year to improve and learn the system, but next year is our first real shot at the playoffs so lets cut the dead weight now and get it over with even if it hurts us a little this season. I really don't know how the cap works, so I could be way off.
 
the wonger need food said:
"We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week."

Name the movie...

Except the player probably knew before Friday.
 
AFD1717 said:
Office Space! Shot right here in the ATX!

I know Wade is a bigger hit if we cut him this year than he would be if we kept him, but what happens next year? If we cut him now, do we still owe on him next year? Maybe our coaching staff/front office are thinking that this year is a year to improve and learn the system, but next year is our first real shot at the playoffs so lets cut the dead weight now and get it over with even if it hurts us a little this season. I really don't know how the cap works, so I could be way off.

If they have to take a big hit, it may be smart to do it this year since they have the space.
 
infantrycak said:
Buchanon is playing for just $800k--that hardly qualifies as a bloated contract.

Well, if he was playing for minimum wage it would be bloated for Buchanon.

They should cut him anyway.
 
AFD1717 said:
Office Space! Shot right here in the ATX!

I know Wade is a bigger hit if we cut him this year than he would be if we kept him, but what happens next year? If we cut him now, do we still owe on him next year? Maybe our coaching staff/front office are thinking that this year is a year to improve and learn the system, but next year is our first real shot at the playoffs so lets cut the dead weight now and get it over with even if it hurts us a little this season. I really don't know how the cap works, so I could be way off.

My understanding is since it is after June 1 the majority of his cap hit goes against our cap next year, and just his pro-rated amount of his signing bonus for this year counts against this year's cap.

Runner said:
Except the player probably knew before Friday.

This is likely the case, for all we know he was probably notified a day or two ago and they just haven't announced it to the public yet, I wouldn't be surprised if there are more players that have been released that we haven't heard about yet.
 
I have heard that because of Kubiak's days at A&M where he had a phobia of Bevo that for this reason he will be cutting Toro later today.
 
ojthecat said:
I have heard that because of Kubiak's days at A&M where he had a phobia of Bevo that for this reason he will be cutting Toro later today.


Is that another way of saying we are all invited for BBQ at Kubiak's place tonight?:drool:
 
Should this prove to be true, I'm going to hitch my wagon to those that think it will be Wade getting the boot.
 
I think it will be Greenwood or Payne. Wade makes sense to an extent but I think depth at OL is something they arent willing to part with before the team takes the field. The interesting thing is this is one of the first major moves Smith is making since joining the team. I am curious to say which way he goes and dont be surprised if more than one of the likely suspects are released by the time the season rolls around.

I am personally looking forward to seeing if we can pick any scraps away from any other teams in order to plug holes. It would be nice to find some more depth at corner and safety. We got Marlon McCree a few years back and in Cass' and Capes' infinite wisdom let him go....this time with Smith at the helm we wont have freaking braindead idiots at the helm making personnel decisions.

doug from the woodlands
 
he was healthy all of last year and if i'm correct the year before last, except the game against the browns where i think he tore his tricep of bicep something like that. correct me if i'm wrong.
 
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Where He Be????????
 
LCROD said:
He's never healthy - thus he is never our best DL.

He has missed starting games in ONE of the last 7 seasons and those were all due to a single typical football injury resulting from turf so bad they changed it mid-season. I really don't understand where some of this stuff comes from.
 
Is there a pressing need to cut players now?..idonno:

Why the hurry? Wouldn't it cost the same if players are cut now or during training camp?..:money:

The guys are signed with the team, give them a training camp and preseason games to impress the new coaches and the fans.

Lets see if some of the 'old' guys respond to the new coaching techniques and schemes.

I, for one, think we will be pleasantly suprised.

:coffee:
 
cuppacoffee said:
Is there a pressing need to cut players now?..idonno:

Why the hurry?

Three main considerations--(1) consideration for the player, allowing more time to find a new home, (2) practical considerations for training camp on a limited number of reps--no point in giving them to someone you know won't be with the team and (3) injury concerns--there may be some players who are injured (Wong, Wade could be) that the team wouldn't be able to see in TC anyway--if film review doesn't show them as likely to make the team, they might go ahead and cut one loose.
 
cuppacoffee said:
Is there a pressing need to cut players now?..idonno:

Why the hurry? Wouldn't it cost the same if players are cut now or during training camp?..:money:

The guys are signed with the team, give them a training camp and preseason games to impress the new coaches and the fans.

Lets see if some of the 'old' guys respond to the new coaching techniques and schemes.

I, for one, think we will be pleasantly suprised.

:coffee:

Yes, but at the same time if they know the player doesn't have a chance of making the final roster (Wade does not at all fit a zone blocking scheme), then they might as well cut them now so other guys can get more reps in TC (beneficial to the team) and so the cut players have a better chance of signing on somewhere else (beneficial to them, if the team decides to be nice to them).

*Infantry beat me to it.
 
infantrycak said:
He has missed starting games in ONE of the last 7 seasons and those were all due to a single typical football injury resulting from turf so bad they changed it mid-season. I really don't understand where some of this stuff comes from.

In this case, I think it comes from Maryland!lol:
 
To squeeze some more juice out of this thread, I think interesting questions are:

How did his exit physical go? Will the Texans have to pay an injury settlement? Is it a career ending injury? etc.
 
MorKnolle said:
My understanding is since it is after June 1 the majority of his cap hit goes against our cap next year, and just his pro-rated amount of his signing bonus for this year counts against this year's cap.
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The minimum hit they can take this year is the one year proration. They can always take more. Teams often split the amount 50/50 over two seasons but it all depends on how much is being amortized and how they want to split it. They are dealing with Walker's 7 million as well so I doubt they push all but one year of both Walker and Wade's dead money to next year. That's a wallop. I was pissed when they spent 31 million in bonus money on Walker, Wade and Smith and now it's biting them in the ass.

There's a new CBA rule (that doesn't apply in Wade's case but it did in Walker's) that made it allowable for teams to identify up to two players for release pre-March 1 and gain the post-June 1 cap benefit of splitting the dead money over two seasons. The only catch is that the releasing team has to carry the player's full current year cap hit from March 1 - June 1 which ties up a little cap money during the free agent period.
 
I think the more interesting question is who scouted him and who brought him on board to a team that above all else need some solid players on the line?
 
Todd Wade Cut?:yahoo:
A good draft and now cutting Wade.
I'm starting to feel 100% better about our Oline.
I was thinking the Texans were reaching when they just resigned Wade to that multiyear deal.
 
The Texans didn't just re-sign Wade to a multi-year deal. They signed him to a ridiculous six year deal in '04.
 
I think this is partially what Carr was talking about in his interview with 610 recently.

That we got guys for our Oline without really having an offensive philosophy of what sort of Oline we were putting together.

Wade is a nice guy and I wish him luck in the future.
 
I think it was more conflicting philosophy, i.e. Capers/Palmer v. Capers/Pendry than no philosophy. Wade is a Capers-Pendry kind of dozer/grinder. Wand, for example, is more of an agile Palmer kind of tackle -theoretically at least. Dom couldn't navigate the confusion.
 
Insideop said:
In this case, I think it comes from Maryland!lol:

Just because I live in MD now doesnt mean I have always lived in MD. Missed one start due to injury, how many games in total? Is the time he is on the field worth his total salary?
 
aj. said:
I think it was more conflicting philosophy, i.e. Capers/Palmer v. Capers/Pendry than no philosophy. Wade is a Capers-Pendry kind of dozer/grinder. Wand, for example, is more of an agile Palmer kind of tackle -theoretically at least. Dom couldn't navigate the confusion.
What was that Dangerfeild line..She was an earth sign & I was a water sign ...togtether we made mud. Was that what we witnessed last season ? Hawg Waller.
 
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