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Cushing telling the truth?

Where do you stand on this whole Cushgate thing?

  • Yes he's telling the truth, he has no idea how HcG got into his system

    Votes: 23 16.3%
  • He is lying, he's been juicing for years

    Votes: 45 31.9%
  • Who cares, whats done is done, just dont get caught again.

    Votes: 73 51.8%

  • Total voters
    141
  • Poll closed .
This article right here is why I believe he's lying...had he been more honest and manned up, OK, I'll forgive and forget, but cancer? He's drawing straws there, come on son!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/13/cushings-tumor-excuse-gets-exposed/

My two opinions on this "opinion piece"
One of the most specious aspects of Texans linebacker Brian Cushing's press conference related to his claim that the positive test for hCG caused him to fear, based on the medical information he received, that he possibly had a tumor. And he says he spent the balance of the season fearful that he had one or more tumors in his body.

It was the moment at which we became convinced that Cushing is full of something other than hCG or tumors. People who think they have tumors get tested for (wait for it) tumors. MRIs detect (wait for it) tumors. Certain blood tests indicate (do we need to say it again?) tumors.
As I mentioned in the other thread. All of this takes a lot of time. The original test that reflected he tested positive for a banned substance was administered in September. He didn't get notified of the results until October. From there I assume they retested him the same way and maybe even specifically for hCG to verify if its still there or if its gone. That takes time. I'm sure the tested/retested the supplements he's taking. That takes time. This writer brings up the tumor and makes a mocker of it like he never got tested for that. Well, I assume he went an visited more doctors when the other tests came back normal. I assume he saw several doctors and got several opinions. One option they said could be tumors. From there I assume they scheduled a test for it then went in and got tested for it. Then they had to wait for the results to get back, form an opinion and make a diagnosis. All the while he's out practicing and playing home and AWAY games. The season is essentially from September - December. He didn't originally get notified of the results from first test until October. All this doesn't happen overnight so I can totally see it lasting most of the season and him being worried about it. I wouldn't make a mocker of this at all, it's a shame that some people would about something so serious... even if there's a low percentage chance. you don't f*ck around with tumors/cancer.
And if Cushing spent the rest of the season thinking he had tumors, he did a great job of keeping it quiet. Alex Marvex of FOXSports.com points out that linebacker DeMeco Ryans, a character witness of sorts whom the Texans trotted out after the ridiculously limited time to question Cushing ended, "didn't know anything about tumors." Marvez also reports that the team's position regarding Cushing's tumor claim was to say "no comment," which fairly can be interpreted as a concession that "it's not a tumor."
We're told that other friends of Cushing's knew nothing about a tumor. So, basically, Cushing was in fear for his life, and he shared nothing about his concerns to some of the folks he knew best.
Again, especially the underlined is pure opinion. But this quote gets me too. While keeping in mind all the time that this takes, him not even starting out the further testing process/tumor stuff until NOVEMBER... why would he tell people about it? ESPECIALLY when you're beginning the stages of testing and you don't know what the case is. You don't tell anyone, even friends of his ("close" friends he's know what... for 3-4 months!?) until you're sure what it is until I was sure. If this writer was in Cushings shoes.. I'm sure as hell he wouldn't be telling Fox or any of his co-workers.
 
As a cancer survivor I have a personal interest in this story. I sincerely hope he is not lying about such a serious subject.

If he is lying and is using this story as a way to deflect steroid accusations I will be unable to cheer for him. I will only speak for myself, but as a cancer survivor I would be incredibly offended by this action. This type of lying speaks to me of a child who is unable to grasp that each lie digs you deeper and deeper into the ground.

I am VERY interested in the Texans stance on this issue.
 
As a cancer survivor I have a personal interest in this story. I sincerely hope he is not lying about such a serious subject.

If he is lying and is using this story as a way to deflect steroid accusations I will be unable to cheer for him. I will only speak for myself, but as a cancer survivor I would be incredibly offended by this action. This type of lying speaks to me of a child who is unable to grasp that each lie digs you deeper and deeper into the ground.

I am VERY interested in the Texans stance on this issue.

Agreed, and congrats by the way!

There's been reports about him getting further tests in November (after the October results) and apparently someone close to his camp/family said he underwent tests that turned up negative for testicular cancer. So I really do think he's telling the truth about it. And just from a timeline standpoint, I can totally see him playing the rest of the season worried about this - all the while getting tested.
 


Very interesting comments by his attorney:

"We had expert testimony that agreed that he did produce (hCG) naturally," Steinberg said. "And then after one of the NFL experts said it's impossible for him to naturally produce it, there was a second NFL expert who said, "No, it is possible." At that point, I felt as though we had prevailed."

:hmmm:

p.s. Florio is a d-bag!
 
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He said that he took supplements that had been OK'd by the Texans. We've heard rumors that this incident may have gotten Ray Wright fired and that someone had told Wright & Cushing that something Cushing was taking could test positive. So there's the possibility that Wright at least OK'd whatever it was that Brian took that raised his hCG (assuming, of course, that he took something that did that.)

I wouldn't really be surprised if he was taking extra stuff BUT I'm not part of the NFL. It might be that NFL athletes work very closely with the S&C staff and get everything they put into their bodies vetted as a matter of course or it might be that guys pretty much take whatever they want and just check a list to make sure what they're taking isn't on it. I don't know. I'd imagine most guys take some stuff on the side but I could be wrong.

This part is interesting considering the organization fired their strength & conditioning coach "abrubtly".
 
Ask Mr. Wright why he was fired. If it had something to do with this perhaps he would now say so.
 
Ive heard about enough of this mess - If he did it he did it and he's been suspended , serve out that suspension and stay clean .... Dont hurt your team or your pocket.


Lets just play some damn football already


:fieldgoal
 
Ive heard about enough of this mess - If he did it he did it and he's been suspended , serve out that suspension and stay clean .... Dont hurt your team or your pocket.


Lets just play some damn football already


:fieldgoal

Ya think?

That's what I've been trying to say. Don't matter what we think about it, it has been decided for now.

OTA's Monday! WhooHoo!

Rookies in for the first time..
 
Well I decided this to be the jersey I buy.

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I wish he hadn't done the press conference. It was an insult to my intelligence.

I don't think he needs to confess, but he's got to quit lying right now. The more he lies, the worse this will get. He can just stonewall and it will go away. But if he continues to lie he'll become a joke.

Brian, please stop lying. I'm not asking you to confess. Just quit lying. You're making a fool of yourself and you're asking us to believe the unbelievable----which essentially means you don't respect us.

Just shut up and play and we'll move on.

Go Texans!
 
Remember, he passed a lie detector test! Who cares that polygraphs are only 90-95% accurate. The fact he was willing to take one says a lot!
 
Agreed, and congrats by the way!

There's been reports about him getting further tests in November (after the October results) and apparently someone close to his camp/family said he underwent tests that turned up negative for testicular cancer. So I really do think he's telling the truth about it. And just from a timeline standpoint, I can totally see him playing the rest of the season worried about this - all the while getting tested.

Thank you. Much appreciated.

Cancer and tumors are not a thing you lie about. As I said, I really hope Cush is telling the truth about this. I sincerely hope he really believed there was a possibility he had a tumor of some sort and was getting tested for it. If he is lying and using this as way to explain away a failed drug test, I, and many Cancer survivor Texans fans will never support him again.
 
I am at the point of who cares one way or the other. No one has submitted any facts that he does or has done steroids.

The positive test was not for steroids or a masking agent, but hCG and only slightly elevated from the standard. The NFL told him he either took it or has cancer and put him through a battery of tests from what I have read. He has tested clean in all subsiquent drug testing.

From the limited research I have done, hCG is used in conjunction with steroids or for weight loss. It seems to be readily available on the internet in several forms. Could this have gotten into some supplement he was taking? Sure. Could he have intentionally taken it? Sure. We don't know and will probably never know. Does it matter? Not really. At lease not until he fails another test.

The only thing that matters right now is that he will not be able to play the first 4 games. He will be missed. He better not miss anymore and when game 5 comes around, he needs to be ready to kick some ass.
 
A "scoop" by John McClain in his column in today's Chronicle:

Cushing's Second Test Positive, Not First

The cloak of secrecy surrounding Brian Cushing's positive test for hCG and his appeal to the NFL was orchestrated by Harvey Steinberg, his Denver-based attorney. Steinberg, who has won appeals for NFL players, was brought in by Cushing's agent, Tom Condon. It turns out the Texans linebacker had two drug tests several weeks apart, according to Steinberg, and not the one test that has been reported since the NFL announced his four-game suspension May 7 for violating the policy against performance-enhancing substances. HCG is banned by the NFL because it can be used as a masking agent for steroids. It also is produced in pregnant women and can be used for weight loss and for the aging process. Small amounts can be produced naturally in the body, including in the pituitary gland of both men and women.

Steinberg told Cushing not to tell anyone about the tests, appeal or trips to hospitals in San Diego, Denver and Houston for tests to find out why his body was naturally producing hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin). “I specifically said, ‘I don't want this to be revealed to anyone,' ” Steinberg said Friday. “Look at the firestorm that's occurred. “If we had prevailed as I felt we would — and I was surprised we didn't — then the NFL was duty bound not to release any information, and none of this would have been public. Everybody was obligated to keep it quiet.”

They kept it quiet from the first notification of a positive test in October until the NFL announcement. Meanwhile, Steinberg based a big part of his appeal on Cushing's enlarged pituitary gland and a surgical procedure he had while at USC. “He had a pre-existing medical condition (involving an enlarged pituitary gland) that was consistent with the natural production of hCG in males,” Steinberg said. “They came out in the hearing, and they were documented. “We learned that he had a particular medical condition that was consistent with natural production in the body of this banned substance. We felt with the low levels at which it tested was also consistent with natural production. We did research and found out that his was a plausible explanation. We consulted an expert who suggested further testing. We became convinced that this was a situation that was naturally produced.”

Two samples per test

Steinberg was brought in by Condon after Cushing learned in October he had failed the first test taken in September. Steinberg explained the process. “For every test, there are two samples taken — ‘A' bottle and ‘B' bottle,” Steinberg said. “If ‘A' bottle tests positive, then ‘B' bottle is tested by a separate lab. The ‘A' bottle was barely over the discernible and legal limit pursuant to the policy. The ‘B' bottle got tested, and we were notified it was below the limit. As a result, it was deemed to be a negative test.”

Then Cushing submitted to another test several weeks later, according to Steinberg. Both samples came back positive. “When we inquired about the level (of the new ‘A' bottle), we were told it was about the same as the original ‘A' bottle, the first test,” Steinberg said. “We were operating under the premise that we may well get a negative ‘B' bottle, which would render this test negative as well. When that ‘B' bottle came back positive, then it became a positive test.”

Cushing was advised by the league he would be suspended for four games.

“We tried to discern why he tested positive and why were their two separate tests on two separate occasions for this particular banned substance,” Steinberg said. Armed with what he thought was medical confirmation and an expert, Steinberg had the hearing at the scouting combine in Indianapolis in February.

NFL experts disagree

“We presented our case and our expert testimony,” he said. “Our expert said his low levels were consistent with natural production. There were two NFL experts at the hearing. “During cross-examination, I asked the first expert — and the second expert was in the room and would have heard his testimony — and he said, ‘As head of toxicology for the NFL, there's no way a player can naturally create this substance in their body. I've of the opinion that Mr. Cushing had to inject it.' The second expert for the NFL testified, ‘No, I do believe that it can be produced naturally, and I do believe there's scientific confirmation that a male can naturally produce it.' At that point, I thought this hearing is over. I should win this hearing. Our feeling was that if the two NFL experts are in disagreement, how does the NFL sustain the suspension when their own experts are in disagreement?”
 
oooooooooo!


VINDICATION!!!!!


Who wants to bet that no one cares about this outside of Houston?

Who wants to bet that the media will conveniently not discuss Cushing anymore until week 4 when they will act as though none of this info came out, and at least one talking head will say "coming back from his 4 game suspension after testing positive for steroids".

Who wants to bet that we spend the next 6-7 seasons pasting this text into flame threads from rival teams who claim that the only reason Cushing had a good game is because he is a juicer.

Who wants to bet that no one bothers to show this article to the NFL and scream :scarygirl:WTF!!!!!!:scarygirl: at them till they apologize and fix this bullshit system.
 
Enlarged pituitary gland? Procedure while at USC? I thought they were looking for tumors.

Obfuscation reigns.

Yea, I felt like it was implied they were testing for tumors, since he said he felt as though he had tumors all season. But I'm thinking they ruled out a hCG secreting tumor relatively quickly in November, and the subsequent testing he had in Houston, Denver, and San Diego was going to endocrinologists specializing in cases such as this to search for another endogenous source/cause.
 
CnD has been in contact with some people intimately involved in the develop and setting of the testing for the NFL and around the world in other sports. Some of the salient information:

The NFL uses urine testing. Blood testing is much more sensitive. Typically (where quantitative, see below) blood testing shows higher hcg levels than urine testing.

There are many false negatives in urine testing. The NFLPA insisted on urine testing.

The normal serum level (blood testing) for males and non-pregnant wome are 0-5 miu/cc.

The NFL urine test is a qualitative test - it only gives a yes or no like a dip stick pregnancy test. The designed break over point is 20 miu/cc or four times the upper end of normal. Historically this test has had very few false positives and lots of false negatives.

Isotope ratio mass spectrometry can distinguish natural hcg from exogenous synthetic hcg.

Any residual semen hcg from ejaculation would be minuscule diluted into a urine test.

As has been stated before, any health related issue such as testicular cancer which would cause a positive should continue to cause positive results or at least extremely elevated levels until the health issue is a resolve.

I'd like to thank CnD for digging this information out. Always nice to have more information.

It is interesting to note that the information given to CnD conflicts with what Cushing's attorney is describing in the use of a quantitative test v. a qualitative test.
 
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So, if his enlarged pituitary gland or whatever is indeed the culprit for his testing positive, won't he just keep popping positive in the future? If he doesn't, then I would think its a pretty clear indication something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
 
So, if his enlarged pituitary gland or whatever is indeed the culprit for his testing positive, won't he just keep popping positive in the future? If he doesn't, then I would think its a pretty clear indication something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Good question to ask. Similar question: if it was naturally producing, why didnt he test positive again or more times?
 
oooooooooo!


VINDICATION!!!!!


Who wants to bet that no one cares about this outside of Houston?

Who wants to bet that the media will conveniently not discuss Cushing anymore until week 4 when they will act as though none of this info came out, and at least one talking head will say "coming back from his 4 game suspension after testing positive for steroids".

Who wants to bet that we spend the next 6-7 seasons pasting this text into flame threads from rival teams who claim that the only reason Cushing had a good game is because he is a juicer.

Who wants to bet that no one bothers to show this article to the NFL and scream :scarygirl:WTF!!!!!!:scarygirl: at them till they apologize and fix this bullshit system.
My apologies to Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens.

They deserve better.

Their records should be safe, their good names intact.

They said they didn't cheat while playing baseball, so I guess they didn't cheat.

What if they did?

What does it matter after a nationwide panel of sports writers and broadcasters who cover the NFL made a mockery of our supposed angst over the misuse of performance-enhancing drugs in sports?

Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing tested positive in September for human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a banned hormone used by some athletes as a masking agent after steroid use.

Cushing was suspended for the first four games of the 2010 season. The only reason he wasn't suspended last season is because the appeals process lasted until February.

In an unprecedented move, the Associated Press this week ordered a revote for its Defensive Rookie of the Year award won by Cushing -- for obvious reasons.

But apparently not obvious enough. Armed with evidence that Cushing cheated, many of the 50 voters rewarded him for breaking the rules.

Cushing didn't get the 39 votes he received the first time. Three voters abstained, and 19 switched from Cushing to another player.

Incredibly, 18 people voted for Cushing, including one who didn't vote for him the first time. What planet were they on?

Probably in the same solar system where Cushing resides.

If Bonds had people in his corner like those 18 journalists who voted for Cushing the second time despite knowing better, he'd be a lock for Cooperstown.

Steroids? What steroids? Forget how Bonds transformed his body through years of performance-enhancing drug use -- just focus on him being the home run king.

That's the logic used by those who voted for Cushing.

You can't be a little bit pregnant, no more than you can be a little bit guilty of using illegal drugs.

You break the rules, you pay the price.

It's the American way.

You're not supposed to be rewarded for cheating, for goodness sake.

What message does that send to impressionable young athletes who idolize the likes of Cushing? Certainly not a good one.

At best, Cushing is a cheater who's running from the truth. So be it.

He doesn't need enablers in the media endorsing his illegal behavior.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_681304.html

stumbled on this little gem
 
For me it is two issues here as well as with the baseball steroids issues that keep coming up. First is the players who think it is ok to cheat or break rules. At least for them I can say they are trying to do it for their livelihoods. 2nd and more confusing to me is the reaction of some fans that it is ok to do so. It is the win at any cost, just add a W to the column that aggravates me. It is not about the win for me. It is about the competition. I can handle a loss that results despite very good play and all parties of "my" team.
 
Many do still lie even though they know the information is on the internernet, books, and the newspaper.
 
I voted Yes, he's telling the truth, but I think the choice is worded wrong.

hCG is in everyone's system. It is naturally produced by the body, both male and female. The level in Brian's body is abnormal to naturally occur in males.
 
Yea, I felt like it was implied they were testing for tumors, since he said he felt as though he had tumors all season. But I'm thinking they ruled out a hCG secreting tumor relatively quickly in November, and the subsequent testing he had in Houston, Denver, and San Diego was going to endocrinologists specializing in cases such as this to search for another endogenous source/cause.

I think the tumor thing was this: He was told there were two options, either you ingested/injected hCG or you could have a tumor. Since he denied the first one (honestly or not, I don't know) he would obviously play the season thinking the second one must be the other option.

However with the pituitary gland stuff coming out etc, I don't know why that wasn't mentioned earlier. Seems like a lot of different stories.

I also want the media to clarify whether hCG is actually a "masking agent" for steroids or a post-cycle testosterone booster. Or is it both?
 
First I would like to say that we have all blown this way out of proportion. DROY recount? All pro teams getting reassigned? C'mon, really? This is nuts.

In light of all the fools out there making this into more than what it is they also need to petition the NFL to have the 1970's Steelers cough up their Superbowl rings and turn in their HOF busts cus all of them juiced. I here by demand that two of those trophies immediately go to the Houston Oilers and someone slip on a SB ring on Earl's and Bum's finger.

Second of all why is cushing taking a weight loss enhancer worthy of a four game suspension and Big Ben goes out and rapes two girls and only gets a 6 game suspension? Really?

It amazes me sometimes to see how far out of touch our reality has gone. We are still in the middle of a war that has no end, an unemployment rate that may be recovering but still high, thousands of people who are getting their homes foreclosed on, wallstreet continuing to steal peoples retirements, and our elected govervnment officials who are letting them, and this is what we care about? Again, really?

I also think that not only has the NFL taken their banned substances to far but do not do enough research in each of the products they ban to make an educated decision.

There are 4 reasons HCG would be in Cushing's system, 1 he has cancer, 2 he's pregnant, 3 he was taking roids and using it to unshrink his manhood, or 4 he was using it to curb his appitite, burn fat not muscle, and give him an immune boost and energy level boost.

I believe it's number 4. He does not look like a guy who does roids. Yeah I know he is big and has muscle. Lots of people love to work out and look like that and don't take roids. Wrestlers take roids. Body builders take roids. Your favorite action moving star that "Took 3 months to get into shape and gained 40 pounds for the role." takes roids. When your muscles muscle has muscle your taking roids.

Theory #4 fits best. Look at all the things he does. All the weights and the training and the MMA stuff. I know he is young but damn where does he get the energy? And with all the weights he lifts he needs something to keep the weight off. If there is one thing about lifting a lot of weights its that you gain weight and that slows you down. Plus he is just a health nut. He is one of "those guys." You know, the guy who actually prefers the egg white omelet.

Maybe he did take a steroid though. If he tested positive in October that would of put him in the same time line as him getting hurt during training camp. Steroids do help rebound from recovery. Steroids, if not abused, is a wonderful drug that helps heal many of our ailments. If you have ever had an upper respiratory infection you have taken steroids. He did buy a hyperbaric chamber for its healing effects. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised he took a steroid to heal his training camp injuries. Especially your rookie season. Especially if your Brian Cushing coming into the season with so much negative press.

Also my argument against his taking steroids is that he has not gotten smaller at any point in time. A roid user after stopping does not retain that muscle, easy come, easy go.

Fact of the matter is these NFL players are entertainers. We pay good money to be entertained by these people. The more entertained we are by them the more money the team owner makes. The more money a team owner makes off one guy the more money that owner will pay that guy. And no one wants to watch a bunch of fat out of shape guys play. And yes, that is why only four people came out to watch you and your friends play two hand touch cus your fat, out of shape, and no one wants to see that.

This ranks up there with Star Caps for me. I could care less. The drug policies are there only to cover the NFL from law suits. Just like all the new concussion stuff. The NFL does not care about the players. That is a fact. Otherwise they fork over some money to help out all the former players make what is the NFL today.

I stand behind Cushing 100%. He is a good guy. I like him. He is a solid good natured kid that wants to make everyone around him proud. He has a lot of people depending on him and he is still a kid. At 24 I was still borrowing money from my parents to pay rent cus I spent all I had in the bar the night before.

We all rode his nuts last year to a winning season and all of us where willing to do the same this year. He battled through numerous injuries and a long tiring rookie season that was basically a 12 month football season from the last day of college, combine, workouts, draft, and then all OTA's to training camp.

Now the first sign of trouble half of you guys are ready to run him out on rails. You don't do that to family, and as long as he is a Texan and not beating woman, killing, shooting, stabbing, or making a $100 million dollar coke deal, he is still our boy.

But that is just my opinion and I am absolutely right about it.
 
I think the tumor thing was this: He was told there were two options, either you ingested/injected hCG or you could have a tumor. Since he denied the first one (honestly or not, I don't know) he would obviously play the season thinking the second one must be the other option.

However with the pituitary gland stuff coming out etc, I don't know why that wasn't mentioned earlier. Seems like a lot of different stories.

I also want the media to clarify whether hCG is actually a "masking agent" for steroids or a post-cycle testosterone booster. Or is it both?

To me, it doesn't seem like a lot of stories.

Assuming that he didn't take hCG, and if you look at hCG and what it does and everything, it doesn't make a lot of sense for him to just take hCG. If he had been taking steroids prior to or while taking the hCG, then he would have failed the testosterone tests. But he didn't fail those, he just failed the hCG test.

So, in September he almost failed one test and then failed another. Both had slightly elevated hCG levels. He gets notified by the NFL that he failed in October. He goes to see a doctor who tells him that he either injected hCG or he's got a tumor. So, in November and December, he's going to doctors to see if they can find a tumor. So, he's playing most of the season wondering if he's got a tumor.

During this time, one of the doctors looks at his medical history and says, "Hey. You've had a history with your pituitary gland maybe that could be causing this."

The doctors figure this could be it. They put together some documentation. The lawyer takes the documentation to the NFL and presents it in the appeal. They think they've won the appeal. Blah blah blah.

As a story goes, it's not nonsensical.
 
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There are 4 reasons HCG would be in Cushing's system, 1 he has cancer, 2 he's pregnant, 3 he was taking roids and using it to unshrink his manhood, or 4 he was using it to curb his appitite, burn fat not muscle, and give him an immune boost and energy level boost.

What you've said is incomplete and basically wrong.

There are 3 "natural" ways that his hCG could be raised.

1a - Cancer
1b - Other tumors (in his chest for example)
1c - Problems with his pituitary gland, which has a history with

If I'm reading all of this right, his defense was based on his hCG being raised because of a known and pre-existing medical condition with his pituitary gland.

And I believe there could also be a 5th way: a side effect of a previously unknown PED compound.

But the more I hear of his story, the more it actually makes sense.
 
To me, it doesn't seem like a lot of stories.

Assuming that he didn't take hCG, and if you look at hCG and what it does and everything, it doesn't make a lot of sense for him to just take hCG. If he had been taking steroids prior to or while taking the hCG, then he would have failed the testosterone tests. But he didn't fail those, he just failed the hCG test.

So, in September he almost failed one test and then failed another. Both had slightly elevated hCG levels. He gets notified by the NFL that he failed in October. He goes to see a doctor who tells him that he either injected hCG or he's got a tumor. So, in November and December, he's going to doctors to see if they can find a tumor. So, he's playing most of the season wondering if he's got a tumor.

During this time, one of the doctors looks at his medical history and says, "Hey. You've had a history with your pituitary gland maybe that could be causing this."

The doctors figure this could be it. They put together some documentation. The lawyer takes the documentation to the NFL and presents it in the appeal. They think they've won the appeal. Blah blah blah.

As a story goes, it's not nonsensical.

This actually makes a lot of sense PN. Could it be that this is a no fault incident?
 
To me, it doesn't seem like a lot of stories.

Assuming that he didn't take hCG, and if you look at hCG and what it does and everything, it doesn't make a lot of sense for him to just take hCG. If he had been taking steroids prior to or while taking the hCG, then he would have failed the testosterone tests. But he didn't fail those, he just failed the hCG test.

So, in September he almost failed one test and then failed another. Both had slightly elevated hCG levels. He gets notified by the NFL that he failed in October. He goes to see a doctor who tells him that he either injected hCG or he's got a tumor. So, in November and December, he's going to doctors to see if they can find a tumor. So, he's playing most of the season wondering if he's got a tumor.

During this time, one of the doctors looks at his medical history and says, "Hey. You've had a history with your pituitary gland maybe that could be causing this."

The doctors figure this could be it. They put together some documentation. The lawyer takes the documentation to the NFL and presents it in the appeal. They think they've won the appeal. Blah blah blah.

As a story goes, it's not nonsensical.

This is pretty much along the lines of what I'm thinking, with the addition, that his lawyer told him not to say crap about his defense for his appeal.

Why the lawyer came out and mentioned this the day after Brian's press conference, instead of allowing Cush to mention it, I don't know.

Another thing that is getting me about all the people who are positive that Cushing took hCG as part of an anabolic cycle, some use the level found as proof, when no numerical level was given. All we know is that it was slightly elevated, and at one time (a year ago?) that level would not have been a flag.
 
I'll add one more thing. I believe in innocent until proven guilty, beyond a shadow of a doubt. As long as there is a shadow, we should conclude this man is innocent.

I wonder how many guys that are bashing on Cushing are also vehemently opposed to the Arizona law that "could" be subject to racial profiling. To me this is the same thing. Just because some couch potato doesn't look like Brian Cushing, they assume there is only one way a person could possibly look like that. The man was guilty, before the first shred of "evidence" was presented.

And I think that is wrong.
 
Did we really need another Brian Cushing thread? Nine was not enough?
 
This is pretty much along the lines of what I'm thinking, with the addition, that his lawyer told him not to say crap about his defense for his appeal.

Why the lawyer came out and mentioned this the day after Brian's press conference, instead of allowing Cush to mention it, I don't know.
Another thing that is getting me about all the people who are positive that Cushing took hGC as part of an anabolic cycle, some use the level found as proof, when no numerical level was given. All we know is that it was slightly elevated, and at one time (a year ago?) that level would not have been a flag.

Because no one would have believed BC, and he probably would have lost all credibility and looked even more like he was grasping for straws. Looks much better for his lawyer to come in later with an explanation that did not make Brian look like he was reaching too much.
 
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