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Could this be are first Playoff year?
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Ibar_Harry
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Texans#1 said:I wonder if we could get into the playoffs this i think we could with are offseason by getting Gary Kublak as Head Coach going to Draft Reggie Bush as First pick so this could be are PLAYOFF YEAR.
GO TEXANS!!!!!
Its not just Reggie. Its everything they have done in the off season. Its coaching, its FA time and it will be the draft. We have everything in place as of now for a surprising season. Will it happen, only God knows. But there are some very exciting possibilities for the season coming up. I keep saying just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Defense still has some major question marks in my mind. Our primary pass rushing DE at the moment will be switching positions again. Our linebacking corps has been brought together to be a 3-4 group...Will they fit together in a 4-3? I don't see the Sam Cowart signing as huge...it gives depth and is a good signing overall, but it is a stop gap. We need a number 2 CB. Our safeties are probably not playoff caliber either. We are moving in the right direction on offense which will be nice...especially if we actually get some more chemistry, but I just have a hard time seeing us make the playoffs with our defense...Hope I am wrong though.
TreWardTxn
Waterboy
I can't remember a playoff team that reconfigured their defense and offensive lines in the previous offseason and still made the playoffs, and I'm not sure why it would happen now...
The Chargers made the playoffs with two late round rookies, and 3 average linemans.
Reasons why the Chargers made the playoffs:
1.Drew Brees emerged
2. Antonio Gates took the game by storm
New D.Coordinator, but same defensive personnel.
FOr the optimistic Fans, we can be optimistic that David Carr will emerge and Moulds/Putzier/Bush will be our impact players we didn't have last year.
Reasons why the Chargers made the playoffs:
1.Drew Brees emerged
2. Antonio Gates took the game by storm
New D.Coordinator, but same defensive personnel.
FOr the optimistic Fans, we can be optimistic that David Carr will emerge and Moulds/Putzier/Bush will be our impact players we didn't have last year.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
I just cant see it....how can you realistically predict playoffs when we've never hit 500? Progress is a process.
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whiskeyrbl
Guest
Bobo said:
Damn dude are you always this optomistic> or are you a Cowboy's fan?
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whiskeyrbl
Guest
Texans#1 said:I wonder if we could get into the playoffs this i think we could with are offseason by getting Gary Kublak as Head Coach going to Draft Reggie Bush as First pick so this could be are PLAYOFF YEAR.
GO TEXANS!!!!!
Man that would be nice,but we are playing a pretty tough schedule this year,I think we make large strides towards the playoffs and respect,but think it may still be 1-2 years away
HTownBTDown
Practice Squad
You guys are just blowing smoke up each *****E$. The Jaguars made the playoffs last year. Last year Jacksonville sacked David Carr 6 times in the first game between the two. Houston gave up back-to-back sacks on its opening drive of the second half. "We had so many opportunities to win that game." David Carr said. You execute opportunities by having Good players, we have not done enough to make it to the playoffs we have done enough to WIN many more games and keep the blowouts close, not to make the playoffs.
ClintonPortis26
Noob
Your defense is questionable still isnt it? Do you have alot of depth? Without depth you cant do anything in/near playoff time becuase of injuries.
I watched the laughing stock Oilers catapolt from worst to first in 1 season with Earl Campbell. One player, if he is the right one, can make the diffrence. With Kubiaks playbook, HB is his key position. Funny he would say that since that is the key to any championship teams O. Pass oriented O's never win SB's
run-david-run
All Pro
I dont think we will start well enough to truly be in the hunt. This is a completly differant team from last year, the names and numbers are the same, but this is a new team. If we can get some of the easier games in the beginng, while we pick up the new systems, it could be close, but I woulnt get my hopes for the playoffs up just yet, give it some time.
edo783
Hall of Fame
If you expect the playoffs this year, go bet the lottery. The odds are bout the same. So far, only 2/5ths of the O-line has SEEMNGLY improved with Fannagin at center and McKinny at LG. So, given that we should only give up about 45-50 sacks. That should get about 4 wins and the new WR should get about 2 more. Looks like 6 wins. All the new baubles will mean squat if we don't get seriouse and actually fix the O-line.
run-david-run said:
The OL is the same except for one guy. QB is the same. The secondary is basically the same. Most of the defense is the same. The TE, backup QB, a WR, one defensive lineman and a center have changed -- four starters out of 22 have changed. The rest of the team is basically the same except for some subs. So tell me again how this is a "new" team compared to last year.
Jwwillis said:
HB is NOT a key position in the NFL! If that was the case, why would the Colts have cut Edgerrin James loose? It's the line, the line, the line, and that will take the Texans years to put together -- if ever, seeing that the Lions and the Cardinals and Bills have been trying to do the same for years as well.
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
I agree with Bobo on this one (strangely enough). HB isnt exactly the most important position for the NFL at the moment. Im a pseudo Pats fan, and seeing how Dillon operated in the SBs shows that RBs dont always decide a SB Champion team. Im not nearly implying that he didnt do well, just that Brady and a strong defense won it for them. As Madden always said, "Defense wins championships!!"
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
ok well i think it will be a good season but i think this team may start off a lil slow and about mid way through start picking it up, i mean it does take a lil time, we cant expect this team to go out and win every game, but they do need to be competitive every sunday and sneak away with a few we shouldnt of won, and if they do that i will consider this team on the rise, but at this point we have done nothing to prove we are gonna be much better than last season.
aj. said:
Good teams rarely get the 1st pick in the draft. Of course we got the pick from tampa bay who were still trying to establish themselves. I just dont remember the Oilers ever making the playoffs untill Earl came in. All I remember was Pastorini to Burroughs for the bomb...pray. Even the NFL films documentary on the 79 and 80 teams says the Oilers were a bunch of over achievers riding the coat tails of E.C. When Landry, Shula or Knoll were asked of there assessment of a game after defeat.. they would make sure to say.."Yea, Earl Campbell really did a number on us." Earl MADE holes. Earl did a LOT on his own. Bethea even said after they drafted of E.C. he was not anticipating that the Oilers would make any noise. " Just another season of mediocrity." After the merger the Oilers never had any respect from the league or football fans. Empty seats...Once a fan flipped off the ABC camera man during a Monday night football game we were getting blown out in. Dandy Don covered it up with humor saying, " Now there is a fan who still thinks the Oilers are #1"
Sorry, EC turned that franchise around in 1 season.
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
aj. said:
I never said his numbers werent impressive. Im saying that the Pats defense was the main role in that, as it is in all championship games. You could have someone rush for 100's of yards in a Championship game and still lose. Thats not news, its just the way things are.
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
TexansLucky13 said:
i dont agree with that, i mean if a RB rushes for 100s of yards a game than that means they are picking up first downs and getting the ball down the field. Ok look at the rose bowl, bush was pretty much held in check by the texan defense and they lost but not by much, now if he hadnt been held in check i gurantee you things would of been different. A running game is key to play action which pulls DBs of ur Wrs so they can get open, now if u have no running game at all do you think the Dbs are gonna bite on the play action, do u think ur WR will get open as easily. A running game is not just about running the ball.
Texans Horror
All Pro
The players did not need the overhaul - the coaching staff did, and this will be the big factor, not the players. The line has been upgraded by adding Sherman as OC. The offense has been upgraded by having Kubiak as HC. The dreaded 4-3/3-4 defense debacle has hopefully been ironed out. I'm not ready to say we're going to the playoffs, but I am ready to say this is not the same team, even though many of the faces on the field will remain the same, including the O-line and the defense.
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
TexansTrueFan said:
I agree. My only point was that RBs dont have to play a large role for the team to be successful. But it is extremely important to have the option. I agree that its just as important to "appear" to have a rushing attack as it is to actually have one. If the defense sees a lack in that area, they will pull back, and then you have nothing to work with. And that is one of the reasons I dont think the Colts will ever be a SB team. P Man just has too much talent for his own good (and for the good of the salary cap). Reggie can help us in more ways than we know, but I disagree if you say that the O-line will be neglected by Kubiak and will hold us back. Watch the Draft and see.
TexansTrueFan
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TexansLucky13 said:
i dont agree with drafting Bush, i mean D.D has done more than he could behind this make shift line, so i wouldnt be so fast to go out and get a player whom i feel we dont need, when we could get extra picks and feel in more holes/depth quicker. And i think Kubiak will help, i mean i dont know how much of a role he played in helping Denvers OL, but i'm sure he did pick up a few things in his years there. And i like kubiak mainly cause he wants to improve this team in a hurry and honestly the old staff was to friendly they kept guys around out of respect. i mean some times ya may not like to get rid of an old vet but if it will make us a playoff team than it has to be done.
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
TexansTrueFan said:
Dont get me wrong, if we were given a good offer to trade down the pick and get D'Brick and some O'lineman, I would love to see it! And also, I never said DD isnt good for the team. DD is the one who will be converting those 3rd and 3's, and thats just as important as the Reggie Bush who will be breaking a 76 yard TD run. I have always liked Davis.
That's why Tampa had the #1 overall in '78 (because they had the worst record in '77). Before the trade up to #1 to get Earl, the Oilers were sitting at #17 (out of 28 teams).Jwwillis said:
Jwwillis said:
Fully aware of the Oilers history and unless you're a total revisionist, it was Sid Gilman who turned around the franchise and a struggling QB in '74 (sound familiar?). Bum built on Sid's success from '75 - '77. No playoffs but they went 10-4 in '75 and 8-6 in '77. In '77 (the year before Earl arrived) the Oilers were 5th in the NFL in scoring - hardly "worst" in my opinion.
You said they went from worst to first in one season (implying '77 to '78) and that's simply not true. Earl was the "one player away," the catalyst if you will, who turned an already good team into a Super Bowl contender. Leon Gray didn't hurt either. And yes, Bum got more out of his players than most coaches of that era.
The Oilers turnaround in the mid 70's was due to a combination of new system (installed in '74), new/competent coaching (installed in '74 and '75), and a HOF RB (installed in '78) who just happened to be from UT and drove things over the top. Hopefully we can repeat that feat...
Ibar_Harry
All Pro
oso said:
Its the biggest factor that most people are ignoring. They have no idea how bad they were. We have a lot more talent than people think. The talent was just flat run into the gound. We will be magnitudes better this year. Again I remain exceedingly optomistic. I keep saying sit back and enjoy the ride.....
run-david-run
All Pro
How is this a new team? How about going for it on 4th and 1 when your down by 14 with 2 minutes left? How about throwing more then one ball deep per game? How about using that guy that stands to the right of the right tackle every now and then? How about protecting the QB? How about not playing players out of position? Being aggresive? Im not guaranteeing that the NEW Texans are going to be doing these things, but I can guarantee that the OLD Texans wernt. Coaching matters, go ask a Patriots fan.Bobo said:
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Bobo said:
2-14 is realistic? the same defense and Oline as last year?
let's see. We have an entirely new coaching staff who will be implenting different systems. Also, they will evaluate players differently. And, before the draft we've already made numerous uprgades with personnel on both sides of the ball.
A person can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I certainly wouldn't predict that we will make the playoffs. However, I think it is possible at this point. I think it's been a good offseason and I think last year's team did not play up to their potential. I'm excited to see what this coaching staff does with them.
with your attitude, I can't imagine that you have fun being a fan. It is supposed to be fun after all.
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
run-david-run said:
Definitely! Bellichick is the only man crazy enough to do things his own way and never compromise when he knows what he is doing. He really did an awesome job with the roster, building towards a modern dynasty. (which is slowly falling apart... not sure what he thought about when he let Vinatieri go to the horseshoes, not to mention a leader like McGinest and a talented David Givens)
On that note, thats something we have to look out for now. The titans will likely pick up Leinart, which means that they have a consistent QB with options downfield, now including Givens. I honestly think that our division is getting more stacked every year (with the exception of the Colts losing a chunk of their running game EJ).
TexansTrueFan
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TexansLucky13 said:
ok well in the NCAA u can run to the outside and break off 70 plus yard TD runs, But do you think he can do that having to go through them up the middle, i mean reggie bush isnt exactly the strongest power runner in the world. To be honest i think he'd make a heck of a WR but not a RB, and not for the texans. i am loyal to players who have done well for us, and Davis came out of nowhere and took over when stacey mack went down and now look 3,000 yrds later in 3 seasons we are talking about a starting RB replacment. I dont think it will happen. ( all this is my own opinion)
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
TexansTrueFan said:
Dont get me wrong man, I love DD. I've been living and dying with the Texans. I agree that there is no way that Reggie can make a success up the middle. He needs twenty more pounds and bit of time on the benches before that. But I don't see why he couldnt be successful. I mean, we've seen guys like him before. LT can't push it up the middle nearly as well as he could break one on the ends, but dont forget that a HB can run routes just like any WR. If you followed USC, it was clear that he was both a threat on the ground and as a receiver. He displays a lot of intensity on both sides. I dont like the idea of a "replacement" RB anymore than you do. Honestly. But its the way things are. If we cant trade, we have to take him. Sorry man, its just the way it is.
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
CoachJim said:
actually it may be capers himself
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
Yea, the AFC is very strong, and our division has gotten better. Not to mention that our schedule is much harder. I think that the playoffs are a few years away yet. Dont call me unloyal, just realistic.