I would not be surprised.
I have thought for a while now that Peyton would not be playing game 1 based on what I heard and read.
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Colts bring Kerry Collins out of retirement
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I would not be surprised.
I have thought for a while now that Peyton would not be playing game 1 based on what I heard and read.
I hope it's not too serious. I'll take the wins while he's out, but hope he's OK.
* <-That's what will be next to the Texans if the Texans win the division the year Peyton doesn't play.
I'll take it, but that is not what I want. I want this team to win the division by beating the best team in the division.
If we don't beat Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta, any team on our schedule with a winning record, then this is an empty victory (if it happens).
I'll take it, but that is not what I want. I want this team to win the division by beating the best team in the division.
If we don't beat Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta, any team on our schedule with a winning record, then this is an empty victory (if it happens).
Jacksonville was closer to winning the division in '10 than we were
If the Texans beat some good teams there won't be any asterisk. If we win a weak division, I'd take it, but there would definitely still be quite a few questions moving forward.
ChampionTexan
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Either Robert Irsay is lending some credence to this, or he's kind of a sick individual. Incidentally, if it's the second thing, I actually find it pretty amusing - of course I'm not a Colts fan.
What is Irsay Talking About?
What is Irsay Talking About?
Over on coltfreaks, they're...freaking out. A lot of them think the guy who's twatter account started the rumor is hacked again because it was hacked last week or so. Another part of the story is about Jim Irsay's twats. Say what you will about Bob McNair, but I'll take him over Irsay any day of the week. What a weird SOB.
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Its a two way race now with us and the jags dont take a blind eye to the jags they always play us tough
Anwayz to fhe guy who said he would like to beat fhe colts yeah we can only play the players fhey put on ths field what can we do
I would think getting to fhe playoffs and beating pittsburg new england or fhe chargers would be just has goox imo
That would be crazy if it was hou vs jags in ths playoffs lol
Anwayz to fhe guy who said he would like to beat fhe colts yeah we can only play the players fhey put on ths field what can we do
I would think getting to fhe playoffs and beating pittsburg new england or fhe chargers would be just has goox imo
That would be crazy if it was hou vs jags in ths playoffs lol
We'll get a W and that's all that matters. We will have plenty of opportunities to make statements this year, namely @New Orleans and vs. Pittsburgh.
CloakNNNdagger
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No matter what, the Colts will have lots to overcome this season.
From the New York Times:
From the New York Times:
CloakNNNdagger
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With the make up of the Colts OL, I see not only Collins getting beaten up, but their RBs are also going to take beatings big time........they will have to make their own yardage........I don't give them a long half-life.
With the make up of the Colts OL, I see not only Collins getting beaten up, but their RBs are also going to take beatings big time........they will have to make their own yardage........I don't give them a long half-life.
I'd be ecstatic if we show some semblance of a run D. We haven't seen any yet.
TheCD
Rookie
If Peyton can't play this season, I think the Brady vs. Manning issue is finally put to rest. For all the talk of how "the Colts would be nothing without Manning", if they have a winning season that is debunked (which most agree won't happen).
The Brady-less Patriots went 11-5 without him. I think if the Colts were able to squeeze out a 10+ win season without Manning, then surely Brady comes out as infinitely better.
The Brady-less Patriots went 11-5 without him. I think if the Colts were able to squeeze out a 10+ win season without Manning, then surely Brady comes out as infinitely better.
CloakNNNdagger
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I believe that with their 2 RBs, we will see more runs to the outside than thru the middle and little screen passes......all to the outside again. Our middle may not be tested all that much.
CloakNNNdagger
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The Colts have relied on choreographed split second timing all these years. With their new rag tag QB and OL, they'll be lucky if they don't come looking like a 1910 silent film.
CloakNNNdagger
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I've been reviewing a number of Collins highlight compilations. It's obvious that he seldom takes a 3 step drop. Most of his drops are 5-7 steps........amazingly, even in the shot gun, he usually takes 4-5 step drops.
GP
Go Texans!
What you want is not lining up with what matters.
What matters is getting into the playoffs. With the Rockets, we always got into the playoffs but lost to some combination of Jazz-Sonics-Suns. This Texans team can't even get to the playoffs.
Getting to the playoffs, by hook or by crook, is the only thing that matters.
After getting our doors blown off by Peyton Manning 16 out of 18 meetings over the past 9 years...you bet your boots I'll take a Manning-less Colts every day of the week. Tired of seeing that guy twice every season. He needs to get a TV analyst job and brag about how the new Colts can't handle us like he could.
With the make up of the Colts OL, I see not only Collins getting beaten up, but their RBs are also going to take beatings big time........they will have to make their own yardage........I don't give them a long half-life.
I sure hope your analysis skills are as good as your diagnostic skills usually are.
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bo orlando
Waterboy
Pretty sure the Colts playbook is already one of the most scaled back in the league (on both sides of the ball). They run the same formations pretty often and rely on Manning to read the defense at the line of scrimmage, essentially leaving much of the playcalling to Manning. In recent years, it's seemed that when they do run a preset play (always on early downs) the results are often embarrassing.
CloakNNNdagger
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This is like having an ultra-expensive game computer with all the bells and whistles that burns up its i7 processor............and replacing it with an i3 processor...................................and the Colts don't even have all the bells and whistles to begin with.
This is where we see what kind of Coach Jim Caldwell is.
I doubt they're going to try to turn Collins into Manning.
ThaShark316
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He's the worst coach in the NFL. EASILY. Kubiak is ****ing Lombardi compared to that *****.
CloakNNNdagger
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Rick Reilly may soon regret that promise about Peyton
By Tom Weir, USA TODAY
Updated 1h 52m ago
Great post and I agree completely.
There are no asterisks in football unless you're comparing records from a 14 game season to a 16 game season.
Wins are wins, and whatever combination gets us into the playoff is the winning one.
While I do not celebrate any player being injured, I would be lying to say that I have not looked forward to the day when Peyton Manning is proven to be human. And while I don't like to see him go out like this, his retirement is not something that I will regret.
The entire Texans existence has suffered from being in Peyton's division. If we were in the NFC west, we'd have multiple playoff appearances. But we aren't, so I'm just looking out for the best interests of our team, and if that includes wanting all of our division opponents to be weaker, then so be it.
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ThaShark316
#28
Somehow, I no longer think the Jags are quite the threat they were a few days ago.
This is like having an ultra-expensive game computer with all the bells and whistles that burns up its i7 processor............and replacing it with an i3 processor...................................and the Colts don't even have all the bells and whistles to begin with.
Calling Collins an i3 processor is an insult....to the processor. Collins is more like a 486 SX.
80tothezone
Veteran
Somehow, I no longer think the Jags are quite the threat they were a few days ago.
Calling Collins an i3 processor is an insult....to the processor. Collins is more like a 486 SX.
Yen but you can't rule collins out he did some good things in Tennessee if I remember correctly... didn't he win like six games when VY went down a couple yrs ago?
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Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
In 2008 Collins went 12-3 as the starter, otherwise he was 3-14 during his years with the Tinnbreds.
Because...?
Posted like someone who wasn't there to witness it. Malone and Stocton kicked the Rocket's azz more than a few times, and in the playoffs, to boot.
CloakNNNdagger
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Colts HC: Are you worried about this game?
Colts DC: I'm scared sh*tl*ss!
Colts HC: That's just great! Why's that?
Colts DC: I don't know how to coach from behind!
Colts HC: You gotta be kidding! Just stop the man with the ball.
Colts DC: Now, why didn't I think of that! You're so smart!
Colts HC: Yea, that's why I'm HC......and you're not!........
Colts DC: I'm scared sh*tl*ss!
Colts HC: That's just great! Why's that?
Colts DC: I don't know how to coach from behind!
Colts HC: You gotta be kidding! Just stop the man with the ball.
Colts DC: Now, why didn't I think of that! You're so smart!
Colts HC: Yea, that's why I'm HC......and you're not!........
GP
Go Texans!
Jazz-Suns-Sonics were the Bermuda Triangle of Misery for me.
We had the talent to beat them every time, but some funky schit would happen. Stockton-Malone would go bonkers in a big game, Sonics 3-pointers and Gary Payton would go off on us, and then there was Kevin Johnson of the Suns. Each team had kryptonite...until along came Sam Cassell.
When you think about it, we had the Big Guy (Hakeem) but little Point Guards (Stockton, Payton, Johnson) ran wild on us and they'd throw their bigger guys at Hakeem and find a way to neutralize him. Once we got our backcourt shaped up with Cassell, Maxwell, Smith, and a 3-point shooting Horry...it was just what we needed to take Hakeem and overcome he Bermuda Triangle of Misery.
Man I'd love to see the '94 Rockets playoff games again. Will never ever forget it. Senior year in high school, I remember I was at my parents' house on the farm...hot summer night, Rockets won the title game...and I ran out into the yard and did a soccer slide and screamed to nothing but the sky. Nobody but my parents and God heard me since nearest neighbor lived 2 miles away. LOL.
Sounds silly that an 18-year-old kid would react that way, but man I took some serious HEAT from my high school classmates for having followed the Rockets all those previous years. It ALMOST overcame Oilers-Bills heat that I took from those same classmates. ALMOST. And of course all those a-holes at school said "Only because Jordan wasn't in the NBA did your precious Rockets win the title." Pffffttt. BFD. A title is a title.
GP
Go Texans!
Thank you for looking up the numbers.
I was fairly sure he started out well, but started tanking in the past 2-to-3 years.
He's old. And slow. And I don't think he makes it out of the first half of our game. If it's not Antonio Smith, it'll be JJ Watt....or Mario...or Barwin, and on and on and on.
This Texans defense went from zero to 90 mph in a lockout year. I seriously think Collins might get sacked 3 or 4 times in the first half AND possibly get steamrolled at some point.
The key, IMO, will be to limit the quick slants and the little Addai safety-valve dump-offs Collins will be throwing with regularity. You guys remember how McNabb nickel and dimed us the first half of the Texans-Redskins game last year??? They chewed us up on 3-step drops and slants and curls and RB screens. In the second half, they abandoned it.
With Danieal Manning and Jonathan Joseph back there...I don't fear Collins beating us deep. I fear the over-aggressive DL and LBs losing the shallow stuff and guys like Addai and Clark beating us with killer YAC.
TheMatrix31
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Don't talk to me about the Suns, GP! You bitches beat us two years in a row, including coming back down 3-1. Argh. Nightmares of that ****. I hate Mario Elie.
GP
Go Texans!
Oh man, when Barkley was with the Suns...it was like watching a full-on street fight between the Suns and Rockets. It was mayhem.
Out of the Jazz, Sonics, and Suns, I can remember DEEPLY hating the Sonics and the Jazz. I didn't have hate for the Suns, it was more of a respect like what we sometimes have for the Colts. The Sonics and the Jazz were like Jaguars and Titans to me. Ugggh.
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
I'll always remember the looks on those c************* (Hornacek, Malone, and Stockton) faces when they finally beat us in the playoffs on a last second shot. That pick-and-roll they used to run is still a felony in 28 countries.
GP
Go Texans!
OMG, I forgot about Hornacek. Could NOT stand that guy.
It's like Pete Carroll and Jerry Seinfeld had a kid together. They had another big guy on their team I couldn't stand, either. Easily my least favorite rival to watch us play.
Karl Malone is Douche City, IMO. Ditto on Hornacek. Stockton was a Robot, no emotion and pain tolerance that dwarfs Chuck Norris. Always respected that guy, and still do.
CloakNNNdagger
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It is probably, indeed, true that Manning HAS been the Colts for the most part. But can you imagine, with all the media and fan commentary to that effect, how demoralizing and, in so many terms, how belittling this has got to be to hear for many of the hard-working players that have contributed over the years to this team's success?
Señor Stan
El Guapo
El Tejano
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Saturday was on NFL Network saying they now have a chip on their shoulder for the exact same reason. We still gotta cover Reggie Wayne man, this aint going to be an easy game.