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Cold Pizza just reported a source says CARR WILL BE TRADED

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Second Honeymoon said:
who knows? this is cloak and dagger NFL stuff.

oh well, lets hear what McClain has to say about all this.
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Ah yes a McClainonite. That explains it. This guy so far off the pulse of what the Texans are actually doing, he makes Pasquarelli look like a CIA Agent.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
If we actually trade up to No. 6 to get Brady Quinn, then I will find a new team before the first round of draft day is complete.

Seriously, I will do it.

To trade away one QB who looks good but hasn't won any big games on a big time "level" for the same sort of QB is the epitome of foolishness.

I am not a Notre Dame hater. But Quinn has proved ZILCH in my opinion. Vince Young dismantled USC with his own talents, in the clutch, in the biggest game of the year...maybe the biggest game from 2000 to present day, actually. And we passed on him.

So we go and get Brady Quinn?

Heck, we passed on Reggie Bush and yet there's a guy in Adrian Peterson who might be AS good or even BETTER...and we could trade up for AP, but noooooooooo....we'll trade up for another QB that looks good but hasn't won the big games on a big level?

Sorry, but there's no convincing me that Brady has trounced his opponents in big time situations. It's actually been the opposite: I've seen that team REGRESS from its previous year's successes.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

And yet we're supposedly setting up David Carr II?

Nice.

If this is true, and it happens, you've seen the last of me. Period.

I could rave about this for hours.
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Man...when Vince Young tackled LenDale White on that 4th and 2 after White had been having his way all night was awesome. Vince won that mofo all by himself. Imagine if Vince had a top ten defense at his side how badly the University of Texas Vince Youngs would have destroyed USC.

Brady Quinn couldn't even beat them with his number one ranked defense.
 
HuttoKarl said:
Man...when Vince Young tackled LenDale White on that 4th and 2 after White had been having his way all night was awesome. Vince won that mofo all by himself. Imagine if Vince had a top ten defense at his side how badly the University of Texas Vince Youngs would have destroyed USC.
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Not to take this thread off topic, but I wonder if Leinart, Bush, and White were saying the same thing of their 46th ranked defense?
 
jerek said:
Not to take this thread off topic, but I wonder if Leinart, Bush, and White were saying the same thing of their 46th ranked defense?
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Just goes to show you...Matt Leinart = David Carr. Can't win the big game. he also threw some picks in that game IIRC.
 
thunderkyss said:
& that's what this is all about. Hulk75, QB75, David Carr... never gave a sh1t about the Texans. It's all about the pocket book.

they won't care what happens here when he is gone. They won't care if we're winning, and they'll hope that we are losing.
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Whether you like him or not Carr's always given 100%.
 
HuttoKarl said:
Just goes to show you...Matt Leinart = David Carr. Can't win the big game. he also threw some picks in that game IIRC.
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I am not one for calling people ignorant........but......I would like to point out that Leinart has won 2 national championships, and the Heisman.

Thats all, thank you, and good night.
 
Tkyss, answer this honestly, would you?

You got fans who walk up to you and tell you that you suck, you got fans who poor beer on your wife at a game, your boo'd in your own home stadium, your hometown media blasts you at every chance they get.

If I were him I would have told this town where to go and kiss my big ol pearly white butt.

The way Carr has conducted himself has been amazing.
 
IMO It's more so that David never lived up to the "number one overall" pick status. If we had got this production from Carr and had picked him up in say the 3-5th round of the draft, fans most likely would not scrutinize him the way he is. However at the price we paid for him (salary and that pick) fans are looking for more. Its what we could have had, Peppers?, and what he
"should" have been. My two cents.....
 
TEXANRED said:
Tkyss, answer this honestly, would you?

You got fans who walk up to you and tell you that you suck, you got fans who poor beer on your wife at a game, your boo'd in your own home stadium, your hometown media blasts you at every chance they get.

If I were him I would have told this town where to go and kiss my big ol pearly white butt.

The way Carr has conducted himself has been amazing.
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yes, but at what point do you have to actually admit that you do in fact suck?
 
holy crap...32 pages in 7 hours..needless to say i didnt go through it all- did i miss anything new??
 
Anyone have the number to 610? I am going to call them and ask them to talk about football rather than the concerts McClain is going to with his wife.
 
Texans Pride said:
Anyone have the number to 610? I am going to call them and ask them to talk about football rather than the concerts McClain is going to with his wife.
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713-572-4610--this is the call in number. the above one is the office number i believe.

they're talking about Neil Sedaka, or McClain's favorite lounge acts in Las Vegas right now.
 
dirty steve said:
713-572-4610--this is the call in number. the above one is the office number i believe.

their talking about Neil Sedaka, or McClain's favorite lounge acts in Las Vegas.
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... when Rich Lord isn't whining about the Texans and David Carr, that is...
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
If we actually trade up to No. 6 to get Brady Quinn, then I will find a new team before the first round of draft day is complete.

Seriously, I will do it.

To trade away one QB who looks good but hasn't won any big games on a big time "level" for the same sort of QB is the epitome of foolishness.

I am not a Notre Dame hater. But Quinn has proved ZILCH in my opinion. Vince Young dismantled USC with his own talents, in the clutch, in the biggest game of the year...maybe the biggest game from 2000 to present day, actually. And we passed on him.

So we go and get Brady Quinn?

Heck, we passed on Reggie Bush and yet there's a guy in Adrian Peterson who might be AS good or even BETTER...and we could trade up for AP, but noooooooooo....we'll trade up for another QB that looks good but hasn't won the big games on a big level?

Sorry, but there's no convincing me that Brady has trounced his opponents in big time situations. It's actually been the opposite: I've seen that team REGRESS from its previous year's successes.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

And yet we're supposedly setting up David Carr II?

Nice.

If this is true, and it happens, you've seen the last of me. Period.

I could rave about this for hours.
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:BananaWav

Quinn is ten times the QB lil Davy is. You'll come craawling back once you see the Mighty Quinn get better and better over a couple years time.

Personally, I would be the opposite. I would be stoked that we are finally getting a decent QB.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
If we actually trade up to No. 6 to get Brady Quinn, then I will find a new team before the first round of draft day is complete.

Seriously, I will do it.

To trade away one QB who looks good but hasn't won any big games on a big time "level" for the same sort of QB is the epitome of foolishness.

I am not a Notre Dame hater. But Quinn has proved ZILCH in my opinion. Vince Young dismantled USC with his own talents, in the clutch, in the biggest game of the year...maybe the biggest game from 2000 to present day, actually. And we passed on him.

So we go and get Brady Quinn?

Heck, we passed on Reggie Bush and yet there's a guy in Adrian Peterson who might be AS good or even BETTER...and we could trade up for AP, but noooooooooo....we'll trade up for another QB that looks good but hasn't won the big games on a big level?

Sorry, but there's no convincing me that Brady has trounced his opponents in big time situations. It's actually been the opposite: I've seen that team REGRESS from its previous year's successes.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

And yet we're supposedly setting up David Carr II?

Nice.

If this is true, and it happens, you've seen the last of me. Period.

I could rave about this for hours.
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... dismantled.... please...
 
dirty steve said:
713-572-4610--this is the call in number. the above one is the office number i believe.

they're talking about Neil Sedaka, or McClain's favorite lounge acts in Las Vegas right now.
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Vegas is the greatest city in the world.

I miss Vegas, if you ever go be sure to visit ESPN Zone in NYNY. Beers are big and cold, the cheese fries are awsome and there is a tv at each table and you get to control what you watch.

Its like a little slice of Heaven.
 
Porky said:
:BananaWav

Quinn is ten times the QB lil Davy is. You'll come craawling back once you see the Mighty Quinn get better and better over a couple years time.

Personally, I would be the opposite. I would be stoked that we are finally getting a decent QB.
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whatever...the first time Quinn messed up you would be ALL OVER HIM, and probably bring up the 2006 draft debate again and how we wouldnt be in this situation if we had taken some other QB last April. it's your modus operandi.
 
TEXANRED said:
I am not one for calling people ignorant........but......I would like to point out that Leinart has won 2 national championships, and the Heisman.

Thats all, thank you, and good night.
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Uh... he only played the #2 team in the country twice, and won once. The second time UT won.



TwinSisters said:
They also stuffed Peterson that night of the 2nd BCS Bowl.
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In the second BCS Championship game, Peterson wasn't playing. USC were the favorites over the University of Texas.
 
Porky said:
:BananaWav

Quinn is ten times the QB lil Davy is. You'll come craawling back once you see the Mighty Quinn get better and better over a couple years time.

Personally, I would be the opposite. I would be stoked that we are finally getting a decent QB.
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I didn't know Denzel Washington played QB for ND.:joker:
 
Porky said:
:BananaWav

Quinn is ten times the QB lil Davy is. You'll come craawling back once you see the Mighty Quinn get better and better over a couple years time.

Personally, I would be the opposite. I would be stoked that we are finally getting a decent QB.
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wow porkster.. guess it is settled. all of the texans (to the fans that is)problems are Carr ... we draft Quinn (who is 10 times better).. super bowl here we come...

:yahoo:
 
dirty steve said:
713-572-4610--this is the call in number. the above one is the office number i believe.

they're talking about Neil Sedaka, or McClain's favorite lounge acts in Las Vegas right now.
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They hung up on me when I told them I wasn't interested in hearing John's concert stories and gambling advice. lol
 
thunderkyss said:
Uh... he only played the #2 team in the country twice, and won once. The second time UT won.





In the second BCS Championship game, Peterson wasn't playing. USC were the favorites over the University of Texas.
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And he still has more rings and more Heismans than BQ.

Soon to be known as BBQ'D
 
Dime said:
Thank you.... thank you very much...

Oh, and if you want to attack my typo.. that is fine. If you cant get past it, I am sorry and let me know so I will go back correct it, so you can move on with your life.
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Is that like when someone stops to think and forgets to start again???
:sarcasm:
 
TEXANRED said:
Vegas is the greatest city in the world.

I miss Vegas, if you ever go be sure to visit ESPN Zone in NYNY. Beers are big and cold, the cheese fries are awsome and there is a tv at each table and you get to control what you watch.

Its like a little slice of Heaven.
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I'll vouche for the one in DC. Yes the cheese fries rock and and tvs all over the place.
 
PapaL said:
I'll vouche for the one in DC. Yes the cheese fries rock and and tvs all over the place.
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went to the ESPNZone in Denver when we went and saw the Texans play the Broncos at Invesco. The environment wasnt as loud as I thought it would be and the food wasnt that bad for a theme restaurant.
 
PapaL said:
I'll vouche for the one in DC. Yes the cheese fries rock and and tvs all over the place.
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I wish we had one here. It would be the place where everyone knows my name.

Dangit, now I want to go to Vegas.

Pay the light bill........go to Vegas.........Pay the light bill........go to Vegas......this is gonna be close.
 
CVTexan said:
IMO It's more so that David never lived up to the "number one overall" pick status. If we had got this production from Carr and had picked him up in say the 3-5th round of the draft, fans most likely would not scrutinize him the way he is. However at the price we paid for him (salary and that pick) fans are looking for more. Its what we could have had, Peppers?, and what he
"should" have been. My two cents.....
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Umm....QB is THE most scrutinized position in pro sports, regardless of draft status. ANY starting QB will be blasted for not having enough wins, regardless of fault and given entirely too much credit for wins, regardless of merit.
 
I'm googling my *** off on this and can't find anything new. The suspense is just KILLING me!!!!

:wild:
 
all i have heard is a gentleman agreement that Washington and Houston will trade picks if Brady Quinn is at 6th... nothing on Carr so far
 
t_flare said:
all i have heard is a gentleman agreement that Washington and Houston will trade picks if Brady Quinn is at 6th... nothing on Carr so far
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which means absolutely nothing in this day in age...dan synder isn't exactly the guy i would call a gentleman...nor would i take him at his word...that's like taking jerry jones at his word...ya don't do it...plus with no mention of carr this means double nothing...this is another one of those blah blah rumors that had carr mentioned in it so espn could get a spike in the ratings
 
hollywood_texan said:
IMO, if you don't think a QB prospect is All Pro quality, you shouldn't take that prospect in the 1st round when there are glaring holes all over the team.

Quinn is a good prospect but the first round pick this year really needs to be an impact player that starts from day one.

IMO, there are guys like Quinn in the draft every year. If Quinn hadn't played at Notre Dame, the hype probably wouldn't be there.

If the Texans were solid in the defensive secondary and offensive line, I would say go for it on Quinn.
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My thoughts exactly! Is there ANY chance that this is a smokescreen?? I REALLY hope this is.
 
Nothings happening tonight guys. If this does go down, it will more than likely be a draft day trade.
 
TEXANRED said:
Tkyss, answer this honestly, would you?

You got fans who walk up to you and tell you that you suck, you got fans who poor beer on your wife at a game, your boo'd in your own home stadium, your hometown media blasts you at every chance they get.

If I were him I would have told this town where to go and kiss my big ol pearly white butt.

The way Carr has conducted himself has been amazing.
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So what was the question??

sure, If I were David, I wouldn't want to play for Houston either... But the chances of getting paid $13million and starting regardless of how bad I play may convince me to stay, and get a box for my wife to watch the games from.

I don't condone any of those things from Houston "fans". I've never booed David, & I've confronted several "fans" who did in section 608.

I don't blame David for anything. It's not his fault he was drafted by this team. It's not his fault that Dom Capers was his head coach. It's not his fault, that the Texans went offense with the first 4 picks of the 2002 draft, 7 out of 10 picks of the 2003 draft(2 QBS), 1 of 9 picks in 2004, 3 of 6 picks in the 2005 draft, and 5 out of 7 picks in 2006. It's not his fault that most of those picks didn't work out for what ever reason.

It's not his fault, that our coaches thought he could grow behind our offensive line, while Jonathan Wells, Domanick Davis, Stacey Mack, and a slew of other running backs could not.

It's not his fault, those same coaches left him out there to get beat up time & time again(I never would have allowed him to set the all time sack record his rookie year).

But I don't care whose fault it is. I'm tired of trying to develop David Carr. I'm ready to move on. I'm ready to concentrate on making this team better, and winning football games, and not trying to make David feel comfortable.
 
IDK if anyone's posted this, (thread way too long), but from what I understand, if Quinn is there at 6 we trade up with Wash. Minnesota is actually a potential team for Landry. Is it just possible that this a smokescreen to snag Landry at 6 instead of Quinn?
 
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