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Coaching Change ?

Coaching Change ?

  • Now

    Votes: 87 54.0%

  • Wait till 2006

    Votes: 69 42.9%

  • No change necessary

    Votes: 5 3.1%
  • Total voters
    161
  • Poll closed .
SPRBWL

SPRBWL

Practice Squad
Do we change our coaches now and plan for the future or do wait till next year and risk someone getting hurt BAD?
 
well i would say make a change but who i guess we just ride out the storm knowing there's better things to come. im sure mister mcnair hates losing and im sure he will apply enough pressure to have something done at the end of the season if not a whole new front office as well.
 
Coaching change now but not Capers. Palmer needs to go and then maybe Capers and Fanigo will realize it is time to wake up and start being more aggressive.
 
The score does not show it - enough, anyway - but this was a horrible loss. Play calling was what it has been, bad. Looking back on pre-season I believe there were some questionable cuts - Sloan Thomas, Reggie Swinton, Corey Sears - these guys either have or were probably going to make an impact on this team.

Bottomline McNair, we want this team to win.
 
bckey said:
Promote Hoke.
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He seems to be the most animated of the coaching staff. Too animated. Hoke has my vote.

See the kind of coach Jeff Fisher turned out to be when he was promoted.
 
i honestly think the team was playing not loose by anymore than what the score was i think thats why they punted both times on fourth down i guess they tought 22-7 was respectable. :rolleyes:
 
Changing coaches in the middle of the season wouldnt do any good, because the Texans would have to learn a whole new offense, so I can wait till the end of the season.
 
HoustonFan said:
Where is the fire, intensity and heart to win on this team?
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What fire? Are you kidding? Did you see the look on Capers face throughout the whole game? He looked dumber than a bag of hammers :embarrass
 
interesting that no one has voted for no change. Are only the irate folks voting? Have you old board vets voted on this?

I voted to wait till 2006. Let things implode and at the end of the season we can take our pick of the litter of the available coaches.

Im not so sure I WANT hoke to be our OC. Is he going to try and run the same offense we have been running? I think a complete change is necessary. We have a ton of talent and no one using it.. i want someone who will come in and mold the offense into something that puts our strengths to use.
 
I said "Change Now" but I didn't put much thought into it. It was a knee-jerk vote. The more I think about it though what does it matter? Someone has to step in on an interim basis but nobody says you have to hire them at the end of the year. You can still pick your guy out of the available coaches plus you get to see what your team does when shaken up like this.

The one thing that the Texans have had from day one is an almost eerie sense of complacency. Now I'm not talking about bringing on a full blown Bud Adams like upheaval but if these guys see Capers carrying his stuff out of his office in a cardboard box then maybe they'll understand that there aren't anymore free passes.

If they can't handle that pressure then they don't belong here in the first place.
 
Herv.....we think alike. If we lose the first 3-4 games and they are as ugly as this one was, I am in full favor of change now. I think a shake up like that would do wonders.
 
I hate all the wait until the end of the season crud. Nobody's thinking. THe sooner we sweep Capers and his bunch out the sooner we start the rebuilding of the team, no--it's not just rebuiding, it's reinventing, rethinking, reimagining, remaking. It's EVERYTHING about this theam because now, everything is geared to the mediocre. Top to bottom (OK, everybody can think of a couple of exceptions among the players).

DO IT NOW.

We'll have a very rough season but win a few late and next year we'll be ready to go.

I say we beg Jimmy Johnson, and beg, and don't take No for an answer. He's a winner. Not a great man or a great guy or maybe even a great coach, but he wins.

DO IT NOW.
 
I'm with you on that one JJ can motivate players "Fumble and you're out of here" Yep, Jerry Jones would be pacing the sidelines again wondering what was he thinking letting JJ go after 3 Super Bowls. Either him or Gary Kubiak. We need someone with true ties to The Great State Of Texas like someone said earlier. Oops I think it was only 2 Cause Barry What's his name coached one didn't he??? Can someone post the number to call for the Doomed Capers Show. I would appreciate it. I bet he calls in sick(Of His Coaching) tomorrow.
 
How loud do we have to scream and who do we scream to to make these changes happen now? Unfortunatly it seems like at this point all we can do is vent. But no one in the Texans organization is paying attention to its own fans who expect much much more.

It sure is sad, because without the fans...you have nothing.

I wish Mr. Mcnair would listen.

Alot of people here have mentioned the Oilers fiasco. We can prevent this happening again...,but things need to change NOW NOW NOW :dangit:
 
I agree with vman palmer needs to go! This guy has acheived nothing as his tenure as coach or offensive cordinator, the same exact plays are being called, i could game plan a defense to stop the texans offense right now! This can either be the low point of the year and the texans can turn it around, or we might be saying "hey theres always next year" for like the 4th year in a row, they need to do something, they need a better offensive line and they need to get a number 2 wr....... one word to describe the texans right now and it's "u g l y" grrrrrrrrrrrrr so frustrating................

i finally know what it's like to be a cleveland browns fan, thank you texans, thank you....
 
I thought Mcnair was a business man, a winner. What's up??? Does he ever voice an opinion on TV??? He needs to reassure the fans that he'll do whatever it takes to put a winner on the field. And ditch those makeshift coaches. Does he know we lost today??? I swear he's riding his horses somewhere. Did the coaches know that this was a Regular Season Game???
 
One thing is for sure the Texans Yearbook(Highlight Video) will be a short one this season. Like Bottle-O said "Just Truth" Can we have a recount, sorry this isn't Florida.
 
SPRBWL said:
What fire? Are you kidding? Did you see the look on Capers face throughout the whole game? He looked dumber than a bag of hammers :embarrass
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I have to disagree I do believe that a bag of hammers would have gone for it on 4th and inches.

We need a coach that is a MAN.
 
I wouldn't mind changing several spots, HC, OC and OL coach. However, I doubt at this point we could aquire anyone of quality to take the positions. It's easy to say get JJ or Kubiac, but the reality is they most likely wouldn't be interested at this time. At the end of the season you MIGHT be able to induce them as then they would have time to install their system and coaching staffs. Do it now, and they inheret all the currect issues and that is something they are too smart to do. Unless there is a long run (5 games?) of major routes, I doubt we do much till the offseason, then I look for a MAJOR house cleaning with a new head coach bringing in a mostly new staff. CC will stay for a couple of years more IMO.
 
BuffSoldier said:
Changing coaches in the middle of the season wouldnt do any good, because the Texans would have to learn a whole new offense, so I can wait till the end of the season.
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I was thinking the same thing, but if the changed happened now they would have this season to learn it under fire, next offseason to completely get it down and be rolling with it next year. But we would have to sacrifice this year. Kind of early for that.
 
I think Palmer needs to be fired now. One of the position coaches on offense could take over the play calling, thus no need to change the entire offense mid-season.

Unless the team plays with more passion and gets better results, I would fire Capers at the end of the season. I like and respect Capers, and think he has a lot of character, but he may be more suited to be a Defensive Coordinator than a head coach. I'd love for Mr. McNair to bring in someone like Jimmy Johnson or someone in the Bill Parcells mold, a cantankerous SOB that the players fear. A head coach who makes everyone's lives miserable when the team performs poorly.
 
I don't think it's prudent to fire our entire coaching staff now and bring in a new one. Let's let this season ride out, with McNair letting it be known that heads are coming off unless we see some competitiveness in this Texans team. If they still show nothing, no creativeness, no ability to adjust, etc.....then fire them and pick someone else up as soon as the season comes to a close.
 
Don't blame the players. All the blame , as in the past should be shouldered by the coaching staff. It is pretty difficult for any offense in the NFL to be productive when they are limited to about 3 plays that the other teams defense already knows and what sequence those plays are going to be ran. First down hand-off to Davis, second down hand-off to Davis, third down throw the ball to Johnson at line of scrimmage and pray that he breaks one. The defense being offside 4 or was it 5 times reflects directly on lack of discipline, which reflects directly on our defense minded head coach.
Mcnair will see the light before the end of this season......He is a successful businessman and I would think his tolerance for the mistakes is reaching an end.
The problem with the offense is obvious. They drafted the wrong players to try to play smashmouth football. Change the offense or trade the players and start over if this is the type of offense you want to run....run..run..pass on 3rd and 25.
 
One of the threads mentions trying to hire Johnson. I did not follow his career so I dont know the reason we would want him. I know he had some success at Dallas and was fired and I think he was hired by the Dolphins. Did he coach at Miami and if so, was he successful there as well?
If Johnson is an option, why not hire him now as a consultant of some kind to advise our current staff on how to coach?
Lord knows we need to do something! :brickwall

cac: :coffee:
 
I've been a Palmer basher for a few years now and more recently a Capers basher. When is our defense going to start putting pressure on the QB? Isn't that the only reason to have a headcoach like Capers? Hell, the Jaquars defense seemed to improve once Caper's left to be our head guy.

I'm getting really tired of that stupid confused look on the sidelines. He makes Jack Pardee look like Nobel physicist. I say no to Jimmy Johnson, though. He did nothing at Miami worth noting and probably couldn't get it done in the Salary cap era.

I expect the Texans to be 0-2 because they're not built to stop a power running team like the Steelers. After two slaps in the face I hope they wake up and play with some pride.
 
If I could, I would fire all of the coaches, plus CC, the scouts, the Waterboys, the trainers, the Cheerleaders (well OK not the cheerleaders), the parking lot attendents, the guy who serves the players lunch, the janitors, Jerry - the guy who fills the coffee machine, the laundry attendent, the limo driver, and lastly the players themselves. :texflag:
 
I think if we get our arses handed to us at home this week against Pittsburgh, which is likely, we'll see some changes on Monday. If not then it won't happen until Jan. I hope like heck we can turn it around but don't see how with the O line we have. They really need to spread the field and put Carr in the shotgun all day against Pittsburgh.
 
I am just curious to what happend to the three step drops and some of the things that were supposed to be done to help. Count it, there were only 4 offensive plays that were of a 3 step drop. Are we tring to get the first pick of next years draft. I support the team but I do not support the play calling at all.

(1) How do we punt on 4th down and about 3 inches, if we can't get three inches, we definitly don't deserve to win.

(2) Again how do we punt on 4th and 2 with less that 6 min left in the game when your down 2 scores. Sometimes you have to play to win, not just play not to lose.

(3) Choose at least 3 (that I can remember of) running plays when it was 3rd and like 15 or 20 yards to go.

I truely can not comprehend what some of the coaching staff is thinking about? :confused:
 
Its not fair of you to read my mind and post the threads before I do. Either those were some of the most pathetic coaching decisions I've ever seen, or Capers outsmarted us all because he knew they werenot going to make it anyway. But I'm with you, I would have much rather have seen them go down fighting. And that way, the players would have been held accountable.
 
Its kind of funny, but one of the guys I would approach about helping with the O-line is a guy who ran up and down the side line in the 1st season being the offensive cheer leader. He couldn't play, but he really tried to help the team. Seems he had a shoulder injury, but he does know how to play the LT position. He's been in the trenches and he seems to know how to motivate people and he's a good person. This club needs some teachers who know what the hell they are doing and know how to play winning football. He was and will always be a winner. I think he owes us a favor or two anyway. We treated him well and now may be he could help us in an unanticipated way. Of course I'm refering to Boselli. You know what, he might even make a good head coach. Yes, we are that desperate................
 
I don't care anymore, I'm putting Ibar on ignore. It's like listening to my seven year old nephew make suggestions on how to make this team better. Normally my ignore list is off limits for me because I need to see what everyone is posting in order to moderate but for this I've got to make an exception. I just can't stand it anymore.

Boselli as head coach.....inexplicable. It's like he's channeling crazy dead people or something.
 
Hervoyel said:
I don't care anymore, I'm putting Ibar on ignore. It's like listening to my seven year old nephew make suggestions on how to make this team better. Normally my ignore list is off limits for me because I need to see what everyone is posting in order to moderate but for this I've got to make an exception. I just can't stand it anymore.

Boselli as head coach.....inexplicable. It's like he's channeling crazy dead people or something.
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At least he wouldn't stand there with his mouth open and nothing coming out. The point is we need to do something and they have obviously made it impossible to change anything, because of the point in time of the season. Like others I think you need to look else where because this coaching staff is so intertwined. They all think alike. We need change. Mr. B might really make a good O-line coach. Take your glasses off and think a little bit. What's amazing is I have been saying what's going to happen and all of you think I'm crazy. The crazy part is I have pegged the situation better than most of you who are criticizing me. Some of what I say is toungue in cheek, but unfortunately there is also an element of truth in it to. Please Herv, open your eyes, I love the Texans but not the coaches. I've been posting for a long time the players are getting a bad rap when its the coaches who are at fault. I hear players taking the blame, but I never hear it from the coaches.
 
I don't like Bill Parcells, but when his team turns in a bad performance, he shoulders the blame and takes action to correct the problem. I don't hear the texan coaches admiting mistakes were made. Give the players a chance. The cowboys addressed the problems in the off-season and appear to be a better team. We do not appear to have corrected our problems. Where was the 3 step drop and quick release? This was the least prepared texan team i have ever seen and the coaches need to be held accountable.
 
It has become clear that Chris Palmer must go as the Texans OC. This team needs a shock in the offensive category that can only come from a change in coaches. While they are at it, they should replace the O-Line coaches as well. This team has some good players on the offensive line, but I think they lack coaching on how to pick up a freaking blitz or even read one at that. Case in point: the Indianapolis Colts O-Line is probably one of the smallest in the league. Playing against one of the best Defenses in the league last night, they were able to keep Mannings head attached. If David Carr does not have the ability to work with the O-Line to read Defenses, maybe we should find another QB. I really like the kids toughness and his arm strength, but come on.... learn to read a defense please before you get killed out there.
I love that my hometown has another football team, but it is hard being a fan of a team like the one that showed up yesterday.
 
Of course I'm refering to Boselli. You know what, he might even make a good head coach. Yes, we are that desperate................
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Yeah, that's it. Boselli for head coach!! :crazy:
What you think Ses?
 
I think JJ's time in houston is now. This guy doesn't need 4 years to build a winner. The OL we should keep Chester Pitt and Wade and send the rest packing. And as far as the linebackers.. it seems that Caper doesn't know how to evaluate talent..we got red of Jeff Posey the one season sack record holder with the Texans..we let Steve Foley go and now he is a productive LB with San Diago Sharper might've been slower that Greenwood but he was around the ball all the time Forman was a great backup. Antwan Peek is not a starter and Babin is lazy. I never read any where were he is in the wheight room in the off season, all I read about him is his hunting ranch. P.Buc was torched yesterday..It burns my *** to see this Orginzation getting rid of proven players before the new one they brought in can prove that they can take their spot. And for those who are asking for Caserly is head. CC isn't the one who evaluate talent, he just signs the ones the scouts and Capers ask for. I say bring JJ on board.
 
I would love to see JJ in Houston as the head coach. He has a fire for the game, will get in players a** for botching a play, and I think he's a better judge of the team's needs.

This team in my opinion has needed more offensive help than anything. I almost feel like Carr is not very confident in his O-line - I mean after getting sacked so many times I don't think I'd be either. He's got a great arm and can get out of situations we've seen it very few times. I question why Reggie Swinton and Sloan Thomas were cut -they played very well in the of-season, even though we lost 3 times. That made no sense. Surely that would have meant more wide out options aside from AJ. Our Triple Threat of DC, AJ, and DD has not made much noise and I think that is a big shame, Chris Palmer. As far as defense go, I think they can only do so much when offense is not putting up much of a fight to keep possession of the ball. They have given up some yards, though, and they could rush the passer more. Afterall weren't they supposed to be leaner and quicker this season??? Why aren't they able to get to the QB???

Bottomline, WE WANT THIS TEAM TO WIN!!!!!!!!!
 
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