Hardcore Texan
Magnet Man
He needs to stay, he's under contract, I can't see why the Texans would trade him away. So the browns can want in one hand, sh*! in the other and see which one fills up the fastest.
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Cleveland Browns Rumors: Talks for Houston Texans RB Ben Tate Surface
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Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Thorn...?
...is that you?
I must have taken the red pill instead of the blue one.......
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
I think this trade goes through. Hillis signed with KC today.
Also, Tate was drafted to be the #1 at a time when nobody knew that Foster would emerge as a freaking H.O.F. potential runningback. We now have two #1 worthy backs, a #3 who's good enough to be a #2, and some newly created needs to be filled in the draft. This trade is happening.
Also, Tate was drafted to be the #1 at a time when nobody knew that Foster would emerge as a freaking H.O.F. potential runningback. We now have two #1 worthy backs, a #3 who's good enough to be a #2, and some newly created needs to be filled in the draft. This trade is happening.
drs23
Veteran
Little late here and OT as well but what's the fan base's consensus on Colt. Do you guys think he's the man to get the job done or are you guys looking to upgrade like all the talking heads keep harping on?
PM me if you wish as to not derail the tread.
GP
Go Texans!
And the congregation all said.....
AMEN!
Who the hell thinks they can get our Round 2 guy for a Round 2 pick?
What muff huggin' Johnny Jumpin' razz matazz muther (censored) has the nerve to say "Uh, hello there! We are affiliated with the, uh, football organization up there in Ohio, and uh we were kindly offering you a uh 2nd round pick for Mr. Tate. What ya' say?"
I say, "You're on crack."
I don't even think we should take their second 1st round pick. The truth of this deal: We drafted him, if you think he's your RB1, make me an offer that represents that line of thought. Or you can use your own draft picks and try your luck at that.
It's time teams quit treating us like we're into the business of handing them golden geese. Go away or give us proper compensation.
You sir are insane!!!
Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
Tate for #22 is a great deal for Texans. We won't be able to keep him and Foster anyway if he keeps showing the tools he has.
I'm good either way though. It's pretty much win-win.
I'm good either way though. It's pretty much win-win.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
The red one gets you fired up...
................. The Blue one keeps you, well..... Fired up for a long time!!!
SAMURAITEXAN
All Pro
If Browns really want Tate, they better cough up an offer that our FO can't refuse. Tate is a stater material RB and already proved that last season and he is young. The Browns can draft RB in the first rd but there's always a chance to be bust. In Tate, they know what they can expect from him(1,000+ yrds Starting material RB). If they think we trade Tate with their 2nd rd? Crazy.
Like I say, they better cough up if they want Tate.
Go Texans!!!
Like I say, they better cough up if they want Tate.
Go Texans!!!
I love Tate, but no one is going to give us a 1st round pick for him.
Maybe a 2nd, 3rd, & next year's 2nd.
Maybe we can do Tate & KDub for that first & a 4th
Maybe a 2nd, 3rd, & next year's 2nd.
Maybe we can do Tate & KDub for that first & a 4th
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
That ain't right!! I'm only a few years behind........ Check that, SEVERAL years behind!!
K
kingh99
Guest
It would be great
if Texans parlayed Tate
Into a first round pick
Retarded, crippled, handicapped, disabled, differently abled Haiku
That ain't right!! I'm only a few years behind........ Check that, SEVERAL years behind!!
Start pop'n them pills pawpaw
SteveSlaton20
Rookie
If I were the Browns, I'd be more worried about my QB situation.
BTW:
NFL Passes Dropped
Rank Team Passes Dropped
1 Cleveland Browns 43
2 Detroit Lions 37
3 Atlanta Falcons 36
4 St. Louis Rams 34
5 Philadelphia Eagles 33
6 Green Bay Packers 32
7 Baltimore Ravens 31
8 New York Giants 30
If I were the Browns, I'd focus on the WRs/TEs/RBs, and maybe the oline.
Not to mention next year class is deep and I wouldn't be surprised if Barkley become as good or better than Andrew Luck. They need to focus on other positions before they ruin another QB.
badboy
Hall of Fame
65 nails it again. #22 & 26 allows us to fill two needs or trade up for one super good guy.
From Walters:
Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
Height: 5-10. Weight: 222.
40 Time: 4.44.
Bench: 28.
Vertical: 36. Broad: 10-2.
Hand: 9 3/4.
Projected Round (2012): 4-6.
3/12/12: Turbin is a sleeper prospect who has some speed and is extremely strong. He showed that off with good speed and strength at the Combine. In 2011, Turbin averaged 6.1 yards per carry with 1,517 yards rushing and 19 touchdowns. He caught 17 passes for 171 yards and four scores as well. In 2009, Turbin broke out with 1,296 yards and 13 touchdowns. He missed the 2010 season because of an injury. Turbin is put together well and is an elusive runner.
GP
Go Texans!
We'd find a way to take 22 and 26 and move DOWN for 2 2nd rounders and an extra 3rd. Some stooped **** like that, I'm sure.
I don't want Gary getting an extra 1st rounder and wonder how to use it. I mean, that's like having the ball at the opponent's 5-yard-line and we've got three downs to score a TD--Gary finds ways to eff it up. Oh the things he can do with three downs and only 5 yards to go!
And if we use both the 22 and 26 to move UP...we'd probably draft the next Travis Johnson or Amobi Okoye. That idea has bad mojo written all over it.
badboy
Hall of Fame
lol nah this draft too good in first 15 to not hit if a trade up and we should get quality @ #22 and either OLB Perry or my choice Vinny Curry @ #26.
#22 WR Kendall Wright
#26 OLB Vinny Curry
#58 NT Ta'Amu
#90 WR Marvin McNutt
4th C/OG Phillip Blake
5th RT Josh Ogelsby
6th LG Lonnie Edwards
7th FB Chad Diehl
GP
Go Texans!
Damn, you've done a good job recently of fooling me that you had confidence in the FO unit this post.
LOL. Gary scares the hell out of me. You give him TOO much rope, and he hangs himself. Give him just the right length and he finds a guy named Arian Foster. It's the craziest damn thing I've ever seen.
They'd find a way to eff up a situation of having two first rounders. Bill Belichick knows how to pull it off, I don't think Gary could. Not yet.
I don't want Derrick Ward being RB1 if/when Foster gets banged up and can't play a Sunday or two. Give me Tate and let the dude eat up yards with authority.
GP
Go Texans!
I'd be sort of OK if he played it cool and drafted at 22 and 26. Then we'd feast in Round 2 like we always do, and have THREE stout prospects. Not to mention a guy or two in the remaining rounds that might be gems.
They'd have to give us 22, though. And I don't think they would. I think they believe they NEED that 22nd pick at all costs. That's where I think Gary might get stoopid on us...taking less than he should or taking a FUTURE 1st rounder when we need one n-o-w.
I would consider taking a swap of 22 for 26 and their 2nd round pick very seriously. There's a chance we could get Decastro with 22 or if not we could get Zeitler with their second.
All of this is based on us loosing Breisel or Myers.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Within two days, we went from having the luxury of selecting best player available to having several needs to fill. We need draft picks.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
The sad thing is that the Browns have a huge need at RT, and had we held on to Winston, we probably could have sent him and Tate to Cleveland for #22 and a late round pick. If Winston Justice is tradeable, even for a pick swap, Eric Winston certainly would be worth a 3rd or 4th.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
The reason they lead in passes dropped was because Colt McCoy was woefully underthrowing and missing WRs.
TimeKiller
Guest
Well that would be rather foolish. Giving a backup up for anyone you wanted in the draft besides 2 Qb's?
SCOTTexans
Rookie
Im on the make the trade if it is only for their #22 pick... having the 2 first round picks can fill the center job with Konz, if meyers isn't resigned (which looks like he is not) and also pick up the first round reciever.
I believe we can get Ward back and I think he is capable of the back-up position it foster gets hurt, but a tough call
Also if we dont get some O-line to replace the lost our running game will shut down this yr and its looking like the draft is the only option.
I believe we can get Ward back and I think he is capable of the back-up position it foster gets hurt, but a tough call
Also if we dont get some O-line to replace the lost our running game will shut down this yr and its looking like the draft is the only option.
Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
610 through this out this morning....
"Would you trade Tate plus the #26 pick for Cleveland's #4?"
Justin Blackmon anyone?
"Would you trade Tate plus the #26 pick for Cleveland's #4?"
Justin Blackmon anyone?
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Not unless we resign D. Ward I wouldn't. That would leave us NOTHING at RB if something happens to Foster. At some point in time Tate is going to leave anyway, but I would prefer it not until we get someone else in that proves to be a good backup to Foster.
HTown2ATX
TexansMetalhead
In a heartbeat I would for the #4, but I think they were saying Cleveland has another 1st round pick in the 20's which is probably the one we would get.
Still I would take that pick in the 20's, package it with our 1st round pick and if needed you then have bargaining power to move up if needed to get someone.
I don't see CLE giving us the #4.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Not trading Eric is puzzling unless they want to re-sign him very cheaply. If traded, he is definitely on another team and cannot be re-signed. I have not heard of him even scheduling a visit. Seems like asking him to take a cut and re-structure would be way to go unless Smith thinks he could get much lower deal when Eric discovered he was cut.
If NFL thinks Winston is an above average RT seems as if he would have been snapped up by now.
SCOTTexans
Rookie
I would not make this trade. If we get our o-line in order and a back-up to foster, perferably Ward back, then i might consider it...
majestrate
Rookie
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kans...91/eric-winston-kevin-boss-chiefs-free-agency
He has a visit to the Chiefs today (and I thought Seattle was talking to him too, but I'd have to search more):
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kans...ed-to-kansas-city-to-visit-chiefs-on-thursday
Blake
MMQB
I would do it in a heartbeat. WR is our biggest need and Blackmon is the best WR prospect this year. Hell, I wanted him last year too.
I am ok with filling 2 needs at the bottom of round 1 as well. I just dont like the idea of starting over at center this year.
Señor Stan
El Guapo
This quote in a Cleveland Browns thread has my inner 8th grader giggling.
Not to worry. With two first round picks we give one to Wade and the other to Gary. One of 'em is bound to be good. One is our Mario replacement and the other our Myers/Brisiel replacement. I smell win-win.
And if it were me, I'd squeeze the Brownies for a 6th too ...just cause with Hillis gone I know they be desperate.
I'm thinking thunderkyss and Bill can both kiss my ass.
The pill referance was the the move Matrix by the way. I'm surprised no one caught that.
I caught it. I'm pretty sure they did too.
But, with the high-quality, quick-trigger smart-a$$age among the members, you know it's not HARD for things to quickly go "south" around here.
Yeah... I did that on purpose too.
aussie_texan
Veteran
John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Close
Ben Tate has 2 years left on his contract. He did an outstanding job. Coaches love him. He should be even better next season. Going nowhere.
John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Close
Forget anything you read or hear about the Texans considering trading RB Ben Tate to Browns. Not going to happen.
well thats closed then
Ben Tate has 2 years left on his contract. He did an outstanding job. Coaches love him. He should be even better next season. Going nowhere.
John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Close
Forget anything you read or hear about the Texans considering trading RB Ben Tate to Browns. Not going to happen.
well thats closed then
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Señor Stan;1917535 said:
Speaking of which, I think it's getting close to visiting my "other office". *Grabs newspaper*
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Winston already visited Miami and has visits scheduled with St Louis, KC, Baltimore and Detroit. He is a hot commodity and the best OT remaining in free agency. I really can't imagine he would have no trade value even at 4.5 million a year non-guaranteed. The Browns just released OG Eric Steinbach who took 6 million off their cap. They already had some room before that, and could have easily fit Winston into their lineup. Pair him and Ben Tate together and you should be able to snag their 2nd and 3rd round picks easily or #22 and a late 4th.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
fify
John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Close
Ben Tate has 2 years left on his contract. He did an outstanding job. Coaches love him. He should be even better next season. Going nowhere.
John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Close
Forget anything you read or hear about the Texans considering trading RB Ben Tate to Browns. Not going to happen.
well thats closed then
Seeing as it is McClain, this pretty much assures us that the FO is open to trading Tate for the right price.
drunkcookie
2 drunk 2 cook
Can't wait to see FakeJohnMcClain's tweet on this:
"i wouldn't trade Beans N Taters to Cleveland for a 6er of O'Douls and a bucket of lemon squares! Wait, ya i would."
Next tweet:
"Beans and Taters will play with a team next year! You heard it here first!"
"i wouldn't trade Beans N Taters to Cleveland for a 6er of O'Douls and a bucket of lemon squares! Wait, ya i would."
Next tweet:
"Beans and Taters will play with a team next year! You heard it here first!"