Just heard him talking. His take is that Reeves means that Cass and Capers are both gone. He thinks that Reeves is already looking at the defensive coordinator for San Diego (Wade Phillips), who is effective at the 3-4, and is the son of Bum Phillips (Oiler coach). He thinks that Reeves was hired because McNair likes Carr, and knwos that Reeves is good at building franchises around star quarterbacks (Elway).
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Clayton on the Texans and Reeves on ESPN
- Thread starter gtexan02
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titan hater
Waterboy
gtexan02 said:
Ive implied it before and now I'll say it...Wade Phillips is going to be the next coach. DR and he have a history....+ WP has interviewed fopr the job before...McNair already knows him....
G
God of Wine
Guest
tulexan said:
Ditto, I hope so. I don't think Wade Phillips is the answer anyway.
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
God of Wine said:
I actually agree with you on this idea.
Hardcore Texan
Magnet Man
gtexan02 said:
Clayton also said that he could see Reeves as the OC if I heard right, that was the part about building franchises around QB's. I don't think that would every happen, but I think that was Clayton's comment.
I could however see Reeves as our GM.
Hardcore Texan
Magnet Man
Yeah, I just watch it again, I had it on TIVO. Clayton said "he (Reeves) could maybe even be talked into taking the job (OC) himself" , building around QB and so on. Still seems very far fetched. Too good to be true in my mind. Especially if Phillips ended up at HC.
G
God of Wine
Guest
tulexan said:
I would love to have Kubiak as our HC. I don't care how he is with the media, let John Mcclain and John Lopez deal with him.
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
Grid said:why dont we just break the bank and get Kubiak as Head Coach and Phillips as DC.. grab us another qualified OC.. like the guy from Kansas City or Philly.. and make Reeves GM.. or someone else qualified.. and get ready for the superbowl trophies to come rollin in
you beat me to the post grid.
tulexan
Hall of Fame
Grid said:why dont we just break the bank and get Kubiak as Head Coach and Phillips as DC
The guy responsible for the offense in KC is Dick Vermeil.
run-david-run
All Pro
Al Saunders, one of the best O-Cordinators in the game might say something about thattulexan said:
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Wade Phillips as Head Coach makes great copy in the media, but I did not sign up for an unfrozen caveman defensive coordinator to come in as Head Coach and say, "Hello. My name is Wade Phillips, you fired my father. Prepare to die."
D Coordinator I can live with for Wade. If the intention is to keep Carr we must hire the best offensive mind out there to lead this ship.
D Coordinator I can live with for Wade. If the intention is to keep Carr we must hire the best offensive mind out there to lead this ship.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Grid said:why dont we just break the bank and get Kubiak as Head Coach and Phillips as DC
Better yet, let's learn from our mistakes and hire the Head Coach and let him put together his staff instead of the GM doing it for him (Palmer).
touttail
Rookie
Grid said:why dont we just break the bank and get Kubiak as Head Coach and Phillips as DC
I don't think Wade will move laterally. I feel he want the HC job somewhere!
Bobby 119C:brickwall
GP
Go Texans!
"I really think that Kubiak is the man for the job. Apparently the only knock on him the first time was that he wasn't good with the media. I don't care if our coach is Mr. Smooth with the media I want the guy who is gonna get the job done." -- tulexan
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I 100% agree with you. If that's his only knock, then I say bump him to the top of the list.
The coachspeak with Capers, even when we were winning, was awful. Just reeks.
Give me a guy who tells the media where to put it...especially when it's the Chronic getting it shoved down their throat. Dom is TOO nice of a guy, and that's what you get with Mooch, as well. Leads to undisciplined players who know everything's going to be fine if they screw up and don't "execute."
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I 100% agree with you. If that's his only knock, then I say bump him to the top of the list.
The coachspeak with Capers, even when we were winning, was awful. Just reeks.
Give me a guy who tells the media where to put it...especially when it's the Chronic getting it shoved down their throat. Dom is TOO nice of a guy, and that's what you get with Mooch, as well. Leads to undisciplined players who know everything's going to be fine if they screw up and don't "execute."
Texas_Thrill
Veteran
I dont want freaking Phillips. Why are we getting RECYCLED head coaches? I mean this is just ridiculous. :brickwall
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Texas_Thrill said:
Yeah, nobody that has every been a HC before should be considered.
Signed--Bill Belicheck.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
I don't have a clue and hate to speculate too much (just reading all the unfounded speculation around here is giving me a headache). I do think that if we pull in someone like Wade (our defense is just horrible - even worse than our bad offense) we will bring in a higher profile offensive mind and give him quite a bit of control. Wade has proven he can coach a 3-4 or a 4-3.bigTEXan8 said:
Vinny said:
I agree, the management structure speculation is out of control.
However, back to football talk. If we do revamp the defensive side of the ball is appears to me that it willl be expensive in terms of draft picks and free agent signings. Many posters here post opinions of the draft that focus solely on offense.
I think we have to fix one or the other this year. We could try to be a high scoring team or a defensive team that can hold opponents to low point totals. It is my opinion that having one strong unit will help us more than raising the level of each by a small amount. It will give our team a personality if nothing else.
So, should we devote our precious off-season resources:
a) evenly split between offense and defense
b) heavily weighted to defense
c) heavily weighted to offense
cadahnic
Rookie
Runner I feel it has to be a combination of both more weighted toward offense on the first day and defense the next. Now this depends on what is acquired in the trade down for Reggie Bush of course. I would pernally like to see us take the best OL prospect, a corner/saftey tweener, an interior lineman, and perhaps a pass rushing DE or LB to help with the run and pass rush. Mind you system will play a large part in both as will FA.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Vinny said:
I do like his defensive mind and flexibility to work with both schemes.
Ibar_Harry
All Pro
Runner said:
Runner, I agree with you, but I have been saying this for a long time. Injuries in year 2 are a big part of what we are seeing. I think there is another option to some of this and that is the coaching. For example, if we hire an outstanding O-line coach may be we can repair some of the damage and be more than adequate. If we hire an Offenisve coach who knows QB's then may be we solve problems there. If we hire an excellent receivers coach, just may be we solve our problems there. What I'm saying is this team might well be a whole lot better if a lot of money - where there is no limit - is spent on coaching. I would agree that defense right now looks like it is in total disarray. They simply threw away the talent we had. Although I have felt some of our younger personnel have promise and simply weren't coached well at all. I think everywhere you look, its coaching and not necessarily the players that's the problem. Bring in the best coaches you can find in each position and then let them do their magic. They will decide what you need to do with the draft and FA. Again, this team is now once again some years away from being competitive if we have to rely on the draft and FA. If its a coaching problem only then may be we can be turned around in a year or less.
Bayern
Waterboy
Runner said:
You know maybe its just me but I feel like none of us can truly evaluate talent on this team when every man on that roster has received the terrible coaching given to them. Hence the Steve Foley case.
I don't want any more "major fixes" until we see what we've REALLY got with effective coaching. That being said, its hard to not think best player available in this years draft, because I really don't know how good our current guys could be. JMO.
What scares me about Reeves becoming OC is the Falcon fans talking about how he is incredibly predictable (run run pass) and has a tendency to blame "excecution" for a lack of offensive production.
boy.. that sounds familiar :brickwall
least we wouldnt have to worry about any drastic changes identity.. and im betting Reeves would be a bit more capable when it comes to protecting the QB
boy.. that sounds familiar :brickwall
least we wouldnt have to worry about any drastic changes identity.. and im betting Reeves would be a bit more capable when it comes to protecting the QB
Bob McNair did a great job of bringing pro football back to Houston but he should have choose a winner to coach the team. Who gives a @#$%%# about Kubiak personna with the media. Kubiak coached Elway to two Super bowl wins. Capers QB Collins quit on him didn`t anybody remember that.gpshafer_1976 said:
bleh.. 4 years ago when we got Capers we were happy to have a coach who had built an expansion team before. We all agreed (for the most part) that Capers was a good choice because of his past experience.. and he WAS a defensive genius and HAD taken an expansion team to the playoffs in just a few seasons.
He didnt work out.. but lets try not to act like we all saw it coming and have been saying it for years.
He didnt work out.. but lets try not to act like we all saw it coming and have been saying it for years.
Ibar_Harry
All Pro
Bayern said:
Its amazing they can't see the tree for the forest. The fix here needs to be incremental. You start with the coaches and see what you have. I personally have felt that its only a coaching problem with possibly some scouting problems. With scouting its still more likely a coaching problem evaluating what the scouts have provided. Its amazing how complicated and convoluted this has become. Its simple, fire the coaches, bring in interims, and start evaluating what you have and what you need and don't look back. When you have money limits on players, it becomes a coaching issue. The best coaches will always have the overall best records because they will simply get the most out of what everyone else has.
Remember the Colts before this Year. Get Bush and dominate offenseively now. The defense has too many needs to be addressed and draftees might not be instant producers -ALA Babin-. We have potent weapons on the offense not being utilized and u don`t want a RB that has the potential to score every time he touches the pigskin from all points of the field. You got to be Kidding. Go for the Jugular Bob!!!!!!!cadahnic said:
Ibar_Harry
All Pro
abbest said:
If you want to do that you better find the best O-line coach you can and get the line functioning. He is a great talent, but you have to have some holes for him to get into the secondary. I still don't think Bush is on OJ, a Peyton, a Sayers or an LT. He's good, but he has a ways to go to be at their level.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
tulexan said:
At this point I just want to see this thing go in A direction. I feel like I've been watching the Texans stand still for four years and while I know that isn't completely true this long, sorry, losing season has undermined a lot of my faith that the team was getting anything done.
Offensive direction, defensive direction. I don't care.
Im with ya there Herv.
When i saw in an interview that Carr didnt know what the identity of the team was (defensive..offensive..rushing..passing..balanced).. I realized that we werent going anywhere.
We need to establish an identity for this team. We need to decide WHAT we are..and then work towards defining that. I dont care if we go defense..or offense..rushing or passing.. just as long as we have a goal and start making ourselves stronger.
When i saw in an interview that Carr didnt know what the identity of the team was (defensive..offensive..rushing..passing..balanced).. I realized that we werent going anywhere.
We need to establish an identity for this team. We need to decide WHAT we are..and then work towards defining that. I dont care if we go defense..or offense..rushing or passing.. just as long as we have a goal and start making ourselves stronger.
