CJ Stroud year 2

[badboy]

Slowik said the Lakers’ championship didn’t count during covid and Stroud got upset.

Stroud said I will be the talk of the NFL as setting records beyond other QBs!

Slowik said put your $ where your mouth is.

Stroud said draft me, pay me and I will.

Texans did.
Stroud did.

 

[Dejaview]

Smarts and Stroud used in the same sentence? Lmao

Bump

 

[Dejaview]

Lol,

Dumb qbs don't win championships.

Bump

 

[Dejaview]

This totally depends on how you feel about Stroud. I dont like the person or the player and think he's dumb as a box of rocks, so the quicker he plays the quicker you can move on from him. Picking Stroud makes me look at the Texans org like a future trainwreck after yr 3, rather than truly building for the future. Cal's an idiot if winning championships meant anything to him. It doesn't, he's chasing the money, nothing more or less.

Bump x 100

 

[steelbtexan]

It could have been that you posted "I don't like the person or the player" in regards to Stroud 20 times.

No, I am not exaggerating.

Still doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed. I root for my hometown team. For my favorite team to be successful Stroud needs to be successful.

Still don't like the person and his choice of agent.

 

[Dejaview]

The S-2 says that even if you're right, he's not great under pressure, thinking on his feet, it shows up in his tape. Not so much in the guys I listed tape.

Bump

 

[steelbtexan]

I said it before...Lance isnt the greatest source nor is he liked or respected by many media outlets that cover the Texans...there are several that have came flat out and have had a laugh at his expense of being "a reporter and Texans insider".
Idk him as a person and obviously not a colleague of his....so I dont know if he comes off as arrogant, argumentative, abrasive, rash, or what the deal is...but people dont like him and he's been WAY OFF on some of his "insider stories".

Not really

He got the 2022 draft correct for the Texans. I'm fairly certain LZ wasn't making things up.

 

[Dejaview]

B

True, expectations should be that Stroud is as good or better than Purdy. After all, Slowik had a big hand in helping develop Purdy. Since Stroud supposedly is more talented than Purdy, expecting less is lowered expectations. Unfortunately if Stroud fails, it will be all Slowik's fault. Even though Slowik has proven he can develop QB's like Purdy. No excuses

Bump

 

[Dejaview]

Nope, I would hope that he wouldn't have drafted Stroud.

Bump

 

[badboy]

Not at all,

I expect Ryans, Caserio to put weapons around Stroud next off-season that will be comparable to the 49ers and what they have around Purdy. They're already off to a good start with Collins and Dell. Add Nabers and Sanders who are comparable to Aiyuk and Kittle and you're off and running. Of course there's not another McCaffrey out there, but guys like Shipley and McClellan can run good pass routes and are good in pass pro as well as catching the ball. Plus you won't have to use a high draft pick to get them.

The future is bright. Ryans and Slowik know what they're doing and Caserio is on the same page with them. This is what I've been hoping for since the teams inception. Everybody on the same page.

Are things changing down on kirby?

 

[JB]

Bump x 100

You know going back to May to bump a comment is very petty and vindicative. Have you never changed your mind after circumstances have changed?

 

[Dejaview]

Lmao

Failure isn't an option. You've met me before, I will let you draw your own conclusions. Business owners are generally calculated risk takers

Bump

 

[Texansballer74]

You know going back to May to bump a comment is very petty and vindicative. Have you never changed your mind after circumstances have changed?

I guess he wants a true apology from him for calling the young man stupid/dumb. Especially when it wasn’t warranted.

 

[JB]

I guess he wants a true apology from him for calling the young man stupid/dumb. Especially when it wasn’t warranted.

That in itself is very petty and childish being as in he never called him stupid/dumb

 

[Dejaview]

Good luck with that, tell me how many guys with Strouds background have reached the heights you're referring too?

I guess he could always become the first, but I don't like betting on outliers. Best we can hope for is Moon without the choking in playoff games and the wife beating. SMH

Bump

 

[JB]

Bump

You're ruining a perfectly good thread

 

[steelbtexan]

Are things changing down on kirby?

Hopefully the McNair's have stopped meddling

 

[Dejaview]

He should've already signed his contract and been spending time with his family. I guess you cant see the hypocrisy of claiming family and Christ is everything to him and then spending time with a bunch of Hollywood elites/rappers. I think we've seen this movie before down on Kirby.

bump

 

[Dejaview]

All the bumping appears incredibly childish. He's already admitted he was wrong. What more do you want, self-flagellation?

No

 

[Dejaview]

You know going back to May to bump a comment is very petty and vindicative. Have you never changed your mind after circumstances have changed?

These “circumstances” derailed this thread for months.

 

[badboy]

These “circumstances” derailed this thread for months.

One must be cautious not to become what one ridicules.

 

[JB]

No

Then what is your purpose? Everyone already knows how he is.

 

[thunderkyss]

And of course your hearing it from a guy hearing it from a guy who wasn’t there. Good news all the way around.

It matches what one of our members heard from a friend of a friend.

 

[Dejaview]

One must be cautious not to become what one ridicules.

Explain what this means?

 

[Dejaview]

Then what is your purpose? Everyone already knows how he is.

Oooohhhhhh now I get it. Some can derail a thread if they are part of the clique. Others get your derision.

 

[thunderkyss]

He's been able to find the receiver downfield such that he doesn't have to resort to the dump off.

One of the ESPN shows, Orlovsky was talking to another "analyst" & he said Cj's favorite receiver is the open receiver.

I'm sure he's got tendencies, but it's going to be hard figuring them out.

 

[JB]

Oooohhhhhh now I get it. Some can derail a thread if they are part of the clique. Others get your derision.

 

[badboy]

Explain what this means?

You're acting just like the poster you are bumping.

 

[Texansballer74]

That in itself is very petty and childish being as in he never called him stupid/dumb

Yes he did. Dude came on here right after the draft blasting away.

 

[badboy]

Oooohhhhhh now I get it. Some can derail a thread if they are part of the clique. Others get your derision.

No one derailing a thread should be allowed to do so. You or the other guy.

 

[badboy]

One of the ESPN shows, Orlovsky was talking to another "analyst" & he said Cj's favorite receiver is the open receiver.

I'm sure he's got tendencies, but it's going to be hard figuring them out.

Had not heard that comment by CJ but I rather like it.

 

[JB]

Yes he did. Dude came on here right after the draft blasting away.

I was referring to Dejaview, not Stroud

 

[thunderkyss]

These “circumstances” derailed this thread for months.

We kinda hoped it would stop when the Texans started winning, but you won't let it go. We've got something good to talk about & he's been talking up the good, but you want to talk about this ish....

 

[Texansballer74]

I was referring to Dejaview, not Stroud

I was referring to SBT.

 

[JB]

I was referring to SBT.

I know. But SBT never called Dejaview stupid/dumb is what I was saying

 

[76Texan]

One of the ESPN shows, Orlovsky was talking to another "analyst" & he said Cj's favorite receiver is the open receiver.

I'm sure he's got tendencies, but it's going to be hard figuring them out.

That's right.
His tendency is to find the open receiver.
How are you going to game plan for that?

In college, I had seen a couple of teams (playing against Mahomes) rush 3 and kept 8 to defend.
It worked to a certain extent.
But it's hard to do that often in the NFL.
Teams will run right down your throat.

 

[Texansballer74]

I know. But SBT never called Dejaview stupid/dumb is what I was saying

Gotcha

 

[thunderkyss]

That's right.
His tendency is to find the open receiver.
How are you going to game plan for that?

In college, I had seen a couple of teams (playing against Mahomes) rush 3 and kept 8 to defend.
It worked to a certain extent.
But it's hard to do that often in the NFL.
Teams will run right down your throat.

Which is why they need to get the run/screen game going... & it looks like they are heading in the right direction.

 

[Texansballer74]

Which is why they need to get the run/screen game going... & it looks like they are heading in the right direction.

They had the screen plays running to perfection last week. We haven’t seen this team execute a successful screen play in a long time.

 

[Texazan]

That in itself is very petty and childish being as in he never called him stupid/dumb

yea he did,

post 3105, “I dont like the person or the player and think he's dumb as a box of rocks“

Its pretty clear he gave Stroud zero chance, called him dumb and didn’t like him as a person.

Having said that, to your point it doesn’t warrant jacking a thread…..plus I’m too lazy….

 

[sprtsfanatic]

They had the screen plays running to perfection last week. We haven’t seen this team execute a successful screen play in a long time.

Schaub/Foster days?? Thats the last time I remember a screen working like its supposed to...its been a MINUTE for sure!

 

[sprtsfanatic]

 

[JB]

yea he did,

post 3105, “I dont like the person or the player and think he's dumb as a box of rocks“

Its pretty clear he gave Stroud zero chance, called him dumb and didn’t like him as a person.

Having said that, to your point it doesn’t warrant jacking a thread…..plus I’m too lazy….

You're reading out of context... keep going

 

[TexansBull]

Oooohhhhhh now I get it. Some can derail a thread if they are part of the clique. Others get your derision.

I guess he wants a true apology from him for calling the young man stupid/dumb. Especially when it wasn’t warranted.

I don’t understand letting someone on the internet affect you such a way you hold onto these feelings.

 

[macho grande]

I don’t understand letting someone on the internet affect you such a way you hold onto these feelings.

I get it. SBT vitriol was sooo over the top for such an extended period of time. It would seem that the retraction should have the same energy, not a simple "oopsie, let's move on".
But what do I know, I'm just a waterboy eating my popcorn

 

[corry]

Just watching Justin Fields last night. Almost every drop back, I was thinking to myself... Throw the ball already. Justin hesitates and is allergic to anticipation throws. Has to see it to throw it. You combine that with the slow separation of hands to release of the ball and I have a really hard time seeing him be successful long term.

CJ has spoiled us, and its made me reflect on Deshaun.

For all the spectacular Deshaun plays. He hurt the Texans just as much as he made us drop our jaws in disbelief.

He had 62,44,49 sacks in his 3 full seasons as a Texans player. His stats were there, but think of all the stalled drives due to taking sacks. Thats 52 a season on average(on pace for 68 sacks this year).

Patrick Mahomes- 25 sacks a year
Josh Allen- 23 sacks a year
Tom Brady- 29 sacks a year
Aaron Rodgers- 33 a year(did not win much in his career despite being superbly talented)
Peyton Manning- 20 sacks a year

If you are going to constantly be taking negative plays, you have to be a special thrower of the ball in order to make up for getting behind the chains(Looking at you Aaron Rodgers).

CJ's last two games, show that he can be a 20-30 sack guy a year, but he also possesses the ability to be productive on got to have it passing situations(he is the best in the NFL this year).

What we are seeing is special.

 

[mws]

Something I noticed in my attitude last game which shows how far I've come is I didn't assume a drive was over when the Texans got a penalty. I'm not saying I like penalties but I do feel this offense has a better chance of overcoming one than I have felt for a long time.

 

[Porky]

I’m kind of enjoying the take your medicine bumps deja is posting. Steel went to the DJT school of wild claims and no contrition. Make bizarre wild claims. Then never admit your wrong. Just adjust the blame point, then move the goal posts.

So now it’s wait for three years. When that’s not an issue, it will be he hasn’t yet won a SB. Once he wins a SB, it will be ya but if he was really good, he’d win multiple. It will never end. Give up folks. Steel is a good guy, and an OG of this board, but he is who he is and leopards don’t change their spots.

I’m at least happy that we have a rainbow of viewpoints and personalities here. It keeps it fun and engaging. Do we all agree that if we all agreed, it would be as boring and dull as watching grass grow? Can I get an amen on that? This isn’t rocket science. While I enjoyed the burn this morning and steel probably deserved the burn, I am ready to turn the page.

 

[thunderkyss]

I get it. SBT vitriol was sooo over the top for such an extended period of time. It would seem that the retraction should have the same energy, not a simple "oopsie, let's move on".
But what do I know, I'm just a waterboy eating my popcorn

I'm with you. But people are people.

But you know what you're dealing with... he's told us who he is. Keep that in mind when interacting with him.

 

[Thorn]

meh....everybody makes predictions, and most predictions are wrong. Some folks don't like admitting they're wrong, and adjust "facts" accordingly. The only thing that really matters is whether or not the Texans finally get their sh!t together, not who predicted what. I don't care who you are, if you predict enough stuff, some of it will happen, most won't.

I predicted Richardson would be the best of the rookie QBs this year, so far that's wrong. I predicted Texans with 5-7 wins this season, that's looking (so far) to be wrong as well. Here's another prediction, I'm going to IHOP this morning. That one won't be wrong.