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Texans_Chick said:
That's why I took pains to say that as a group, I do not like when Cowboy fans are in Reliant Stadium

Even in this thread, a Cowboy fan says that he just wants to go to games to talk a little smack. Problem with that is when drunk people are in proximity, that smack talk sometimes turns into physical stuff, or the time a drunk Cowboy fan started F-bombing me and I was wondering if he was going to hit me until another fan intervened physically.

There is an etiquette to being a fan in an opponents' stadium. You are a guest. Don't act like a donkey. It doesn't involve junk talking, verbally or physically assaulting home fans. Cowboy fans as a group do not get that.
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I really understand where you're coming from because I felt the same way when Texans fans came to Texas Stadium. Of course, not all, but there was a certain level of rudeness, obnoxiousness, and the boos were so loud the first pre-season game in Dallas when Jerry Jones appeared on the jumbotron, that the fans around me were were in a look of total confusion and disbelief.

I don't think it's difficult to sometimes overlook some of our own behavior and focus the spotlight on our rivals. But, truth be told, given the number of Cowboys fans that come to Cowboys games at Reliant, if Bob McNair would have been shown on the jumbo screen and the fans in force had given a resounding boo throughout the stadium, that game probably wouldn't have been delayed, and personally as a Cowboys fan I would be ashamed.

I think that it's unfortunate on both ends that a game brings out such poor sportsmanship and behavior that has been demonstrated on both ends. I do look forward to the upcoming one or two games that will be played here this year, and am fortunate that the Texans fans and I in my section have becoming pretty good football buddies, so I won't have to worry about ice or beer being poured on me when I show up in my Cowboys gear. We have really had some good times at the Cowboys/Texans games. I guess I'm blessed to have been assigned the seats that I have.
 
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StarStruck said:
I really understand where you're coming from because I felt the same way when Texans fans came to Texas Stadium. Of course, not all, but there was a certain level of rudeness, obnoxiousness, and the boos were so loud the first pre-season game in Dallas when Jerry Jones appeared on the jumbotron, that the fans around me were were in a look of total confusion and disbelief.

I don't think it's difficult to sometimes overlook some of our own behavior and focus the spotlight on our rivals. But, truth be told, given the number of Cowboys fans that come to Cowboys games at Reliant, if Bob McNair would have been shown on the jumbo screen and the fans in force had given a resounding boo throughout the stadium, that game probably wouldn't have been delayed, and personally as a Cowboys fan I would be ashamed.

I think that it's unfortunate on both ends that a game brings out such poor sportsmanship and behavior that has been demonstrated on both ends. I do look forward to the upcoming one or two games that will be played here this year, and am fortunate that the Texans fans and I in my section have becoming pretty good football buddies, so I won't have to worry about ice or beer being poured on me when I show up in my Cowboys gear. We have really had some good times at the Cowboys/Texans games. I guess I'm blessed to have been assigned the seats that I have.
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Good Post! I think that there is, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, a big brother/little brother relationship. Because the cities are so close, fans tend to think not as much about being a guest in someone else's house.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Yup!!! I agree. In fact I like their fans. I've been a member of thecaptainsdeck.com message board for a few years.... Good folks!
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They have great fans there. I did a guest podcast for them one year. Good people, but I don't like any of the moves they've done post-Gruden. I feel bad for their fans.
 
StarStruck said:
I really understand where you're coming from because I felt the same way when Texans fans came to Texas Stadium. Of course, not all, but there was a certain level of rudeness, obnoxiousness, and the boos were so loud the first pre-season game in Dallas when Jerry Jones appeared on the jumbotron, that the fans around me were were in a look of total confusion and disbelief.

I don't think it's difficult to sometimes overlook some of our own behavior and focus the spotlight on our rivals. But, truth be told, given the number of Cowboys fans that come to Cowboys games at Reliant, if Bob McNair would have been shown on the jumbo screen and the fans in force had given a resounding boo throughout the stadium, that game probably wouldn't have been delayed, and personally as a Cowboys fan I would be ashamed.

I think that it's unfortunate on both ends that a game brings out such poor sportsmanship and behavior that has been demonstrated on both ends. I do look forward to the upcoming one or two games that will be played here this year, and am fortunate that the Texans fans and I in my section have becoming pretty good football buddies, so I won't have to worry about ice or beer being poured on me when I show up in my Cowboys gear. We have really had some good times at the Cowboys/Texans games. I guess I'm blessed to have been assigned the seats that I have.
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I guess it is the Numbers of Cowboy Fans + The Obnoxiousness Level of Them as a Group = Really Unpleasant Game Day Experience.

Some visiting fans as a group are cool. And some are mouthy. I have never been verbally or physically assaulted at a game other than when the Texans faced the Cowboys. The first time at a preseason game, I got f-bombed and the guy got in my face screaming things. The second time, also at a preseason game, a guy grabbed me and shook me and I should have put the yellow shirts on him.

I do not look forward to when the Texans play the Cowboys at Reliant one bit. I know it is not your fault, or the fault of Cowboy fans who have manners and/or don't get stinking, nasty drunk.

But I'm not looking forward to two of those games this season. I don't like confrontation, and I don't like poor manners. I just want to go to my home stadium and enjoy watching a football game.
 
Texans_Chick said:
I do not look forward to when the Texans play the Cowboys at Reliant one bit. I know it is not your fault, or the fault of Cowboy fans who have manners and/or don't get stinking, nasty drunk.

But I'm not looking forward to two of those games this season. I don't like confrontation, and I don't like poor manners. I just want to go to my home stadium and enjoy watching a football game.
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LOL, I guess we have more similarities on this issue than differences since I stopped short of saying I dread the Texans visit next year and wonder if we need to hide the china.:ahhaha:
 
Texans_Chick said:
They have great fans there. I did a guest podcast for them one year. Good people, but I don't like any of the moves they've done post-Gruden. I feel bad for their fans.
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Agreed. They're not all that happy either. That said, they've been pretty supportive of what we've gone through.

AND, I remember the podcast you did. Several of their members turned me on to your interview. I think it was podcast on "What the Buc".....
 
Texans_Chick said:
I guess it is the Numbers of Cowboy Fans + The Obnoxiousness Level of Them as a Group = Really Unpleasant Game Day Experience.

Some visiting fans as a group are cool. And some are mouthy. I have never been verbally or physically assaulted at a game other than when the Texans faced the Cowboys. The first time at a preseason game, I got f-bombed and the guy got in my face screaming things. The second time, also at a preseason game, a guy grabbed me and shook me and I should have put the yellow shirts on him.

I do not look forward to when the Texans play the Cowboys at Reliant one bit. I know it is not your fault, or the fault of Cowboy fans who have manners and/or don't get stinking, nasty drunk.

But I'm not looking forward to two of those games this season. I don't like confrontation, and I don't like poor manners. I just want to go to my home stadium and enjoy watching a football game.
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Sorry for your experience. That sucks.

I have seen some crazy stuff from NFC East opponents too. Heck my brother works for the Boys and their group was at the Eagles game last year and had to be escorted out near the end. Guards told them not to stare at people. Serioulsy.

When I went to the Minny/Cowboy playoff game this past year in Minny, their fans were very cool. The guy next to me with his son actually talked alot but most of the ribbing was in good fun. He grabbed me near the end and shook me but he was playing around. Though I really don't like being touched. An angry person doing it might have been a different story for me.

Though I'm not sure what you meant earlier with the statement "as a group", again, I'm sorry you have dealt with the bad fans. I'm assuming you mean you just have a bad feeling when that certain fanbase shows up. Unfortunately, as I said earlier, I think we are in a time when "talking smack" is what many fans chose to do. I've heard some here say they have tried to pick fights with Cowboy fans at Texas Stadium, etc. That sucks if that is a person's intention.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Though I'm not sure what you meant earlier with the statement "as a group", again, I'm sorry you have dealt with the bad fans. I'm assuming you mean you just have a bad feeling when that certain fanbase shows up.
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I think she meant a higher percentage of Cowboys fans act out toward Texans fans than other teams' fans. That isn't a reflection on any individual but as a group. Very well may be the opposite could be said as well. Not surprising. The most natural hostilities are the AFC South with the Titans heading the list as the former Houston team, then Dallas as an in-state rival and then maybe the old Oiler rivals.

If I am not dressed up I have Texans logo stuff on of some type probably 60% of the time and I haven't encountered anything other than good natured ribbing from Cowboy fans. But a couple bad encounters can certainly shape a person's opinion.
 
infantrycak said:
I think she meant a higher percentage of Cowboys fans act out toward Texans fans than other teams' fans. That isn't a reflection on any individual but as a group. Very well may be the opposite could be said as well. Not surprising. The most natural hostilities are the AFC South with the Titans heading the list as the former Houston team, then Dallas as an in-state rival and then maybe the old Oiler rivals.

If I am not dressed up I have Texans logo stuff on of some type probably 60% of the time and I haven't encountered anything other than good natured ribbing from Cowboy fans. But a couple bad encounters can certainly shape a person's opinion.
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Without a doubt. I think that is why I have been trying to explain my experiences and side to the story. I don't want maybe 10 drunks with bad intentions or whatever people have experienced to represent a fanbase when I've seen the good to it.
 
Hello everyone new guy here.. just wanted to put in my two cents into the thread..

I will never forget one time I was in Killeen (FT.Hood) it was on a sunday afternoon after all of the games were over for the day and I and my wife and kid were driving through town on our way home.

TEXANS had just won so im proudly flying my colors on my window flags and of course the stickers on my truck screaming loud and proud..

When up next to me a suburban pulls up with a couple in the front seats two cowgirl jersey wearing fans... and the cowgirls had just lost the afternoon game...

when i look over and she is glaring at me with a face of disgust... I look forward and pay no attention.. I glance again one more time and shes still glaring at me then I have no idea what she is thinking but she flips me the bird!!!!
Im not saying all Cowgirl fans are like this but to me most of them are (from my experiences)... they are rude and arrogant... cocky and full of themselves... If someone is from dallas then I can respect the fact that they are cowgirls fans but someone who is not from that city I have no respect for those are primarily the people who ruin it for that entire fanbase..
 
HoustonFrog said:
Sorry for your experience. That sucks.

I have seen some crazy stuff from NFC East opponents too. Heck my brother works for the Boys and their group was at the Eagles game last year and had to be escorted out near the end. Guards told them not to stare at people. Serioulsy.

When I went to the Minny/Cowboy playoff game this past year in Minny, their fans were very cool. The guy next to me with his son actually talked alot but most of the ribbing was in good fun. He grabbed me near the end and shook me but he was playing around. Though I really don't like being touched. An angry person doing it might have been a different story for me.

Though I'm not sure what you meant earlier with the statement "as a group", again, I'm sorry you have dealt with the bad fans. I'm assuming you mean you just have a bad feeling when that certain fanbase shows up. Unfortunately, as I said earlier, I think we are in a time when "talking smack" is what many fans chose to do. I've heard some here say they have tried to pick fights with Cowboy fans at Texas Stadium, etc. That sucks if that is a person's intention.
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You suck Frog!!!!... J/K my man.

You know how I feel about dullass in general, but you sir are, have been and always will be a class act. Thanks for all your contributions here on TT.
 
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