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Palmer's offense was wide open in Jacksonville. We no doubt run with Capers style ball.disaacks3 said:Most interesting thing so far is that Palmer lays the Offense at the doorstep of Capers...he's (Palmer) only doing the offense that Capers asks for.
disaacks3 said:Most interesting thing so far is that Palmer lays the Offense at the doorstep of Capers...he's (Palmer) only doing the offense that Capers asks for.
Davis37 said:wow, they had Billy Miller on the radio to talk about basketball...
D-ReK said:Kind of a waste of interview time if you ask me...
1st question: Do you want the ball more?
*Cut to basketball talk*
Oh well, I liked the Palmer interview...He seemed to place the blame of poor execution, much like Capers usually does...
Davis37 said:Thx for the link Vinny. Seems like Palmer was very defensive about the "conservative offense" remark.
ArlingtonTexan said:Sounds like Miller contributed as much to the radio show as he did for the offense in the 2004 season.
Texans Pride said:Chuckle Chuckle, that was pretty good Arlington![]()
ArlingtonTexan said:Sounds like Miller contributed as much to the radio show as he did for the offense in the 2004 season.
dalemurphy said:Capers is absolutely not a conservative coach !! He simply believes in running the ball effectively and often. His gameday philosophy is not different than Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, John Fox, and others. Using the running game as a primary threat in an offense doesn't have to be vanilla (Carolina in '03, Pittsburgh '04, lots of Denver teams, any Dan Henning coordinated teams) and it can be very effective (the list is too long)...
Capers likes to take risks. He tries fake field goals at peculiar times. He often goes for it on 4th down (Jacksonville '03). He loves to blitz and gamble on defense. I think the Jimmy Johnson comparison is very accurate. Jimmy constantly reigned in Norv Turner's offensive playcalling- demanding that Emmitt pound the ball. However, at the same time, he invented the 3rd quarter surprise onside kick and loved to take calculated risks like that.
Please everyone who is calling Capers conservative stop it! He believes in running the ball (thank god!) and it is up to Palmer to utilize his offensive talents within Capers philosophy to create a successful offense. If he's not up to that challenge, then he should step aside.
Davis37 said:woah buddy, calm down. I didnt say Capers is conservative... I was just quoting the radio. All I said is that Palmer sound defensive about the questions of the offense.
dalemurphy said:I didn't address my remarks to you.
I DO think he's conservative, but that's not always a bad thing. Given your logic, should Capers step aside if he's not up to the challenge of producing a successful team within the Casserly draft philosophy?dalemurphy said:Please everyone who is calling Capers conservative stop it! He believes in running the ball (thank god!) and it is up to Palmer to utilize his offensive talents within Capers philosophy to create a successful offense. If he's not up to that challenge, then he should step aside.
dalemurphy said:Capers is absolutely not a conservative coach !! He simply believes in running the ball effectively and often. His gameday philosophy is not different than Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, John Fox, and others. Using the running game as a primary threat in an offense doesn't have to be vanilla (Carolina in '03, Pittsburgh '04, lots of Denver teams, any Dan Henning coordinated teams) and it can be very effective (the list is too long)...
Capers likes to take risks. He tries fake field goals at peculiar times. He often goes for it on 4th down (Jacksonville '03). He loves to blitz and gamble on defense. I think the Jimmy Johnson comparison is very accurate. Jimmy constantly reigned in Norv Turner's offensive playcalling- demanding that Emmitt pound the ball. However, at the same time, he invented the 3rd quarter surprise onside kick and loved to take calculated risks like that.
Please everyone who is calling Capers conservative stop it! He believes in running the ball (thank god!) and it is up to Palmer to utilize his offensive talents within Capers philosophy to create a successful offense. If he's not up to that challenge, then he should step aside.
One thing to keep in mind with Ibar is that he a Fresno State fan who followed Carr here. He is not a Texan who is glad we drafted Carr, Ibar is a Carr fan who hates that his guy is with an expansion team (only conclusion I can come to as to his chronic, redundant team bashing). Ibar wants immediate results or he will just troll us hard until we produce them. I've seen him post since 2002 when he predicted we would win the Super Bowl in 2002 - our first season & has been bashing the team in his same polite manner ever since we didn't manage to pull this off. That's just how Ibar is going to be I think. I don't see it ending any time soon.atxcoolguy said:So what's your point Ibar?
No, he never said that. You are putting words in his mouth.Ibar_Harry said:Now, we have Palmer saying its Capers problem, because he's doing what Capers wants.
What interview are you referring to? And can you find the quote that is "more than just sour grapes"?Ibar_Harry said:If you want further insight go read the article from Seattle on Sharper. There is a tone in that article that is more than just sour grapes...
Ibar_Harry said:I will state again, given Capers propensities why pick David Carr and Andre Johnson. They are not the offensive style of players he wants to utilize.
Lucky said:What interview are you referring to? And can you find the quote that is "more than just sour grapes"?
Carr is a QB & Johnson is a WR. What "style" do you think they reflect? Every team needs QBs & WRs. Unless you think that Capers wants to run the wishbone. Who are some of these Capers-type players you think would be more in line with Dom's "propensities"?
Ibar_Harry said:There is something wrong and if you can't smell it then so be it. I will state again, given Capers propensities why pick David Carr and Andre Johnson. They are not the offensive style of players he wants to utilize. Its interesting because others are beginning to see that Capers is really a liability for Casserly in that they are not on the same page. Casserly believes in procurring the best athlete available at the time of the draft, but Capers I really don't believe understands how to use that talent unless it's earmarked for the defense.
bigTEXan8 said:Just like Ibar, I am a Carr fan who followed him from Fresno State to Houston. However, I agree with Ibar in the sense, I never expected to win the SB in his rookie year. But I did expect him to blow up. The problem is that I don't believe the offense properly utilizes Carr's abilities. For crying out loud, throw 4 WR out there and let Carr pick the D apart. It's fine running the ball constantly doesn't seem to be getting us 25 points a game, giving us a chance to win.
bigTEXan8 said:For crying out loud, throw 4 WR out there and let Carr pick the D apart.
Yeah, I am. Unless he has me on the "ignore list". There's a lot of that going 'round.infantrycak said:You're not really expecting a response are you?
ArlingtonTexan said:Sounds like Miller contributed as much to the radio show as he did for the offense in the 2004 season.
SheTexan said:Difficult to contribute much when you don't get much playing time!! JMO!!
ArlingtonTexan said:Missed the 2nd of the smart mouth comment(Dukes not knowing how to use Miller no better than Palmer) , but the more a more serious answer is that tough to get playing time when you are one worst blocking TEs in the league and at least 50% of your job is to block. Miller has worked hard and is okay a pass catcher, but his total package is mediocre at best. He is getting about the right amount of time.
throwANDREtheBALL said:The majority of the stuff I read here is WAY on one side....or WAY on the other side.
Either your like IBAR and think the TEXANS are imploding or your like VINNY and you think with time the TEXANS will win it all and everything in the organization if absolutely fine.
throwANDREtheBALL said:But, OK, am I the only one that is still wondering what's going on with the Offensive line ? They (Front Office) stated it was top priority this offseason and they still have done squat.
dalemurphy said:throwANDREtheBALL said:OH YEAH, and there's still two months of off-season to go.
Don't remind me. can't the season just start already.
dalemurphy said:1. changed the protection schemes
2. pursued Pace
3. signed Riley
4. tried other combinations (flopping Pitts, Wand)
5. pursuing Shelton
6. drafted Hodgdon
OH YEAH, and there's still two months of off-season to go.
Porky said:Not to point out the obvious, but other than potentially #1, none of that is going to do diddly squat to help the line this year.
Ibar_Harry said:What happened on the Radio is very interesting, because if you remember it was said that Capers had to go tell Palmer to change what was happening with the blocking because David was getting killed. It sounded like Carr talked to Casserly and Casserly talked to Capers. Also, McNair had his two cents worth in there. Now, we have Palmer saying its Capers problem, because he's doing what Capers wants.
There is something wrong and if you can't smell it then so be it. I will state again, given Capers propensities why pick David Carr and Andre Johnson. They are not the offensive style of players he wants to utilize. Its interesting because others are beginning to see that Capers is really a liability for Casserly in that they are not on the same page. Casserly believes in procurring the best athlete available at the time of the draft, but Capers I really don't believe understands how to use that talent unless it's earmarked for the defense. I wouldn't be surprised if Palmer is gone before the start of the season. Why, because comments like he made on the radio will not sit well with Capers. If you want further insight go read the article from Seattle on Sharper. There is a tone in that article that is more than just sour grapes. I've said for a long time that I don't believe Capers has the respect of his players, and the more I read, hear and see, I think that is true. Obviously many of you feel differently and that is your right just it is my right to say this is the way I feel. Again, I hope I'm absolutely wrong, but there are a lot of little things popping up which make you wonder what is really happening on the inside.