powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but I was listening to jim rome earlier today and he mentioned charley casserly as one of tomorrow's guests. i don't know which hour he'll be talking, though.
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Charlie Casserly was on Jim Rome today ... Mario or Reggie? NO VINCE!
- Thread starter powerfuldragon
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Tale Gator
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That was just an AMAZING interview with Charley Casserly, what a great GREAT guy. Just an UNBELIEVABLE interview there with Charley...................WOW
Lets read some emails:
'Rome EPIC freaking interview with Casserly, I was absolutely glued to my radio my coworkers thought I was crazy sitting there with a perma-grin chiseled in my grill'
-War-
Cowgirls
'Romey ASTOUNDING interview with Charley Casserly -- I had to pull my car over to the side of the road when I spit chocolate milk through my freaking nose'
-War-
Katrina evacuees trying to steal my tailgate BBQ
'OARRT'
'OARRT'
Rome............OUT
Lets read some emails:
'Rome EPIC freaking interview with Casserly, I was absolutely glued to my radio my coworkers thought I was crazy sitting there with a perma-grin chiseled in my grill'
-War-
Cowgirls
'Romey ASTOUNDING interview with Charley Casserly -- I had to pull my car over to the side of the road when I spit chocolate milk through my freaking nose'
-War-
Katrina evacuees trying to steal my tailgate BBQ
'OARRT'
'OARRT'
Rome............OUT
dirty steve
Veteran
jayseed2002 said:
what if cass makes the call to take VY, is it the bad one then? get over it man.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Tale Gator said:
LMAO!!!
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Sportsfan said:
Honestly, I love Rome. The whole clone thing and conversations on other topics are funny and they are copied by the morning guys here. Rome, his interviews and national subjects, especially since he loves Houston, are better than any of our sports guys here who basically read the Chronicle and act like they know sports. Palillo is the only guy who knows his stuff. Zerlein is 2nd. Besides that it is a toss up of biggest dipwad. The e-mails, as written above are more an inside joke than serious. Some people just take it too seriously. It is meant to be overdone.
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
Rome is one of the few people on this planet that can make me laugh on a consistent basis. By consistent, i mean at least once a week.
Frank_The_Tank
Waterboy
I agree the whole clone thing is so stupid, and it waste so much time. Idiots call and read out this 4 page essay that they have been practicing over and over for about 4 hours. Just to hear Jim say either you suck, or rack'em. What a bunch of idiots. I do like the way Jim is consistant about his position on with different issues. He speaks his mind and then backs it every show. He did a interview with Morgan Ensberg last year that was awsome. The fast that he is on 610 and not 790 is more than enough of a reason for me to listen. ESPN sucks around the board, Radio, T.V., and The Magazine. Thank got for the NFL Network.
Big B Texan Fan
Veteran
Pheonomanal........Rack 'emTale Gator said:
Tale Gator
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I can enjoy Rome, but that's only if I hear his show in limited doses (i.e.) 3 or 4 times a month.
Probably won't catch the show today so ya'll give some updates if there is anything interesting.
Probably won't catch the show today so ya'll give some updates if there is anything interesting.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
I'm listening stream link at work and he is about to come on. Will update
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Where's Charley? Could he be on the phone with a more important caller? 
chuckm
Veteran
on now
says they have not decided yet ...... lot of internal debate about whom to pick.... the pick is one of two players, Bush & MWilliams ..... they have no offers for the pick .... why isn't Young under consideration? They already have Carr and Kubiak likes him and wanted the option exercised .....
says they have not decided yet ...... lot of internal debate about whom to pick.... the pick is one of two players, Bush & MWilliams ..... they have no offers for the pick .... why isn't Young under consideration? They already have Carr and Kubiak likes him and wanted the option exercised .....
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
No decsicion yet...what a shocker.
Internally there has been alot of debate, narrowed down to Bush and Willimas. Thinks both are rare talents.
No offers for the pick.
VY was ruled out due to Carr being chosen by Kubiak; the option was Kubiak's call. The team felt better to have Carr and somebody else (rb or de) then Carr and VY.
Internally there has been alot of debate, narrowed down to Bush and Willimas. Thinks both are rare talents.
No offers for the pick.
VY was ruled out due to Carr being chosen by Kubiak; the option was Kubiak's call. The team felt better to have Carr and somebody else (rb or de) then Carr and VY.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Says they haven't made a choice but it is 2 guys..Bush and Mario. That is it. No trade offers at all. There is debating about it but not a given. Just said they are leaning one way.
VY was not a possibility because before the carr option they asked Kubes to look it the position and Kubes wanted Carr. Then they decided if they wanted to pick a future QB and they said no.
Active negotiations with both players
VY was not a possibility because before the carr option they asked Kubes to look it the position and Kubes wanted Carr. Then they decided if they wanted to pick a future QB and they said no.
Active negotiations with both players
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Trap_Star said:No mention of D'Brick???????
Nope.
:brickwall
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Two players, that is it. I will say that he said something like, "how we use Bushes talents is up to the coaches." Sounds like a leaning to me. He said it isn't just that one pick but that they need to decide who to take and then who falls for the 2nd and 3rd rounders.
No reason to question Bushes character.
No reason to question Bushes character.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Battle Red Bull said:
How?He can only ask so many questions. He has asked him 10 different ways how they might be leaning and has addressed teh character issues.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Somebody on the staff has known Reggie since teh 7th grade.
House issue has no bearing on the pick.
House issue has no bearing on the pick.
Tale Gator
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Wow, I haven't heard him be so blunt before -- Mario or Reggie.
I really feel like he's leaning toward Mario, but that's just a hunch.
I really feel like he's leaning toward Mario, but that's just a hunch.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Alot of smoke being blown around. It's down to Reggie or Mario.
Does anybody think this will end the run of teh VY supporters?
Does anybody think this will end the run of teh VY supporters?
hadaad
Rookie
Given how much lying flies around in the pre-draft scramble, I have no doubt that that just cemented in people's minds that they're going Vince Young. I think it means they're going to trade down.
Whether it's to trade down to take Williams or trade down to take Ferguson, I don't know, but that's what I think.
I just don't think that Reggie Bush is the best option for us.
But that's just me.
Whether it's to trade down to take Williams or trade down to take Ferguson, I don't know, but that's what I think.
I just don't think that Reggie Bush is the best option for us.
But that's just me.
Here's the deal - either the Texans are throwing a lot of crap out there in an attempt to get Bush off of a tough, rigid stance he's taking about his compensation or
THEY ARE THINKING WAY TOO MUCH - Its not even close, pay Reggie
the money and sign him
Also, thanks Charlie for saying officially Vince is not in the mix.
THEY ARE THINKING WAY TOO MUCH - Its not even close, pay Reggie
the money and sign him
Also, thanks Charlie for saying officially Vince is not in the mix.
Tulip
Veteran
hadaad said:
OK, these team play games with each other, but I just don't think Casserly would flat out lie. If he says Vince isn't in the equation at all, I believe him. I find it hard to believe that others would take from that interview that the Texans are taking Vince.
Also, I don't think the Texans have anyone to trade with.
Tulip
Veteran
Trap_Star said:I like to go into the draft with a player in mind. Last year it was DJ, and the year before it was DeAngelo Hall....
So you like being disappointed? Then, if I were you, I'd choose Mario Williams. I think the Texans are more likely to draft Reggie Bush.
Of course, this year you won't be able to pick anyone who could drafted to higher-slotted team.
CoastalTexan
Waterboy
The only 1st round picks I've guessed are Carr and AJ. So I'm always suprised at what they pull out of their sleeve.
... and it sounded like to me, reading between the lines, that Mario Williams just might end up being the #1 pick. He was remaining non-committal, but one thing he did say was this: "When making a pick like this, you have to look at how your team would be WITHOUT that player as well as how it would be with that player and what else is available in the draft." Without Bush, the Texans would still have Davis and Morency as well as Wells, if they sign him. If they don't sign Wells, then they could easily draft another backup RB in the latter rounds as they have done previously with Morency and Davis. Without Mario, the Texans would still have a mess in the defensive line without a pass rush.
So it seems to me that, reading between the lines, Mario is a definite possibility. I have to wonder if the Texans couldn't still get him if they traded down, but who knows what other teams are thinking right now. In addition, Casserly described Bush as a player who would get "limited touches" in the NFL as he rarely ran more than 20 times a game at USC. Of course, he did say that Bush was multi-dimensional, but he continued to use the phrase "limited touches" when he talked aobut Bush. That being the case, if Casserly sees it that way, I find it hard to believe that the Texans would actually spend a #1 overall pick and $24 million on a guy who would receive "limited touches" as opposed to Mario Williams who would be an every-down player on defense. Casserly also indicated/implied that Williams would be easier to sign than Bush. Seeing that Bush is looking for $24 million guaranteed as the first pick, wouldn't that be a shot to his craw if the Texans signed Williams for a lot less. Then there's no way that Bush would get that kind of money since he would be getting less than Mario would get.
As far as Vince goes, might as well forget it. He said the team decided that it would be better off to have David Carr and another player than just another player. He also said that because the team made that decision, it hasn't really been focusing on QBs in the draft -- which would effectively rule out both Leinart and Young. He also said that VY would be like Steve McNair where he wouldn't really get going until his third year.
One final statement that was of interest. Rome asked Casserly if they are trying to win now or are looking "at the big picture." Casserly said, "The big picture" and publicly admitted the team probably wouldn't be going too far this year and is looking to add players in the coming years via the draft to be more competitive.
Quite frankly, Casserly knows what he's talking about. Losing him either to the NFL offices or canning him would be the second biggest mistake the Texans could make.
So it seems to me that, reading between the lines, Mario is a definite possibility. I have to wonder if the Texans couldn't still get him if they traded down, but who knows what other teams are thinking right now. In addition, Casserly described Bush as a player who would get "limited touches" in the NFL as he rarely ran more than 20 times a game at USC. Of course, he did say that Bush was multi-dimensional, but he continued to use the phrase "limited touches" when he talked aobut Bush. That being the case, if Casserly sees it that way, I find it hard to believe that the Texans would actually spend a #1 overall pick and $24 million on a guy who would receive "limited touches" as opposed to Mario Williams who would be an every-down player on defense. Casserly also indicated/implied that Williams would be easier to sign than Bush. Seeing that Bush is looking for $24 million guaranteed as the first pick, wouldn't that be a shot to his craw if the Texans signed Williams for a lot less. Then there's no way that Bush would get that kind of money since he would be getting less than Mario would get.
As far as Vince goes, might as well forget it. He said the team decided that it would be better off to have David Carr and another player than just another player. He also said that because the team made that decision, it hasn't really been focusing on QBs in the draft -- which would effectively rule out both Leinart and Young. He also said that VY would be like Steve McNair where he wouldn't really get going until his third year.
One final statement that was of interest. Rome asked Casserly if they are trying to win now or are looking "at the big picture." Casserly said, "The big picture" and publicly admitted the team probably wouldn't be going too far this year and is looking to add players in the coming years via the draft to be more competitive.
Quite frankly, Casserly knows what he's talking about. Losing him either to the NFL offices or canning him would be the second biggest mistake the Texans could make.
Ibar_Harry
All Pro
What is being said should not be too much of a surprise. Given the Carr contract you would think that would eliminate Linehart and VY names frorm out draft list for the 1st spot. It seemed that Kubiak liked Carr from the get go, but that has just been confirmed.
Why did they bring VY in for a 2nd look? I think there were two reasons. One, was they needed to do that for fan reasons. I think that is a given. However, the 2nd reason was Kubiak wanted to call the shots in the 2nd viewing and see how he reacted in an add-lib format. It wasn't scripted like the pro-day. The comments were that VY had a terrific workout, but I'm suspicious that Kubiak had picked up on a fault and wanted to verify it. Nobody is going to come out and say that, but you remember Kubiak has been saying he keeps watching film and going back and verifying. Also, remember he has been running Carr through similar sequences, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't put Carr through the same sequence so Kubiak had something to compare to when he he put VY through it.
I think Kubiak believes there are a number of similarties between Carr and Elway. Elway was not immediately successful, but the skills were there and they came out in time. Elway was much more mobile than Carr, but Carr is not immobile. It took a long time for Elway to adjust his touch. He had the same problem as Carr in the beginning. The one think Carr has in common with Elway is a gun of an arm. DO NOT under estimate the importance of that in today's schemes.
All of this boils down to, Yes Williams and Bush are the obvious two top choices. Which of those two really boils down to the long run vs the short run. Williams is the long haul least risky pick. Bush is the short run risky pick. I keep saying money may well be the determining factor between these two guys.
Why did they bring VY in for a 2nd look? I think there were two reasons. One, was they needed to do that for fan reasons. I think that is a given. However, the 2nd reason was Kubiak wanted to call the shots in the 2nd viewing and see how he reacted in an add-lib format. It wasn't scripted like the pro-day. The comments were that VY had a terrific workout, but I'm suspicious that Kubiak had picked up on a fault and wanted to verify it. Nobody is going to come out and say that, but you remember Kubiak has been saying he keeps watching film and going back and verifying. Also, remember he has been running Carr through similar sequences, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't put Carr through the same sequence so Kubiak had something to compare to when he he put VY through it.
I think Kubiak believes there are a number of similarties between Carr and Elway. Elway was not immediately successful, but the skills were there and they came out in time. Elway was much more mobile than Carr, but Carr is not immobile. It took a long time for Elway to adjust his touch. He had the same problem as Carr in the beginning. The one think Carr has in common with Elway is a gun of an arm. DO NOT under estimate the importance of that in today's schemes.
All of this boils down to, Yes Williams and Bush are the obvious two top choices. Which of those two really boils down to the long run vs the short run. Williams is the long haul least risky pick. Bush is the short run risky pick. I keep saying money may well be the determining factor between these two guys.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Ibar_Harry said:
I agree with the gist of your post but in no way do I think that Kubiak looks at Carr like an Elway. Elway always was a leader and a good QB, he just had no talent and still took teams to SBs. Elways arm and Carr' arm aren't close in my book either. If anything I think Kubiak looks at Carr like a Plummer. A guy he can teach to use his teammates and manage a game without messing it up.
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
It's true. The boy can gun it.Hawg said: