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Cedric Benson: What Is He Thinking?

z0rpAn said:
And I remember a LOT of us texans fans wanting to get him :dontknowa :thud:
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You make it sound like we would have had the same outcome with him. Yeah, alot of us did want him, and for good reason.
 
Chicago Sun Times


Bears, not Benson, lose in blinking contest

August 25, 2005

BY JAY MARIOTTI SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
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Is it possible Cedric Benson, who is smarter and more thoughtful than folks in Chicago know, simply doesn't want to play for the Bears? That he has had a whiff of the Halas Hall experience and prefers to sit out the season and cast his future lot elsewhere? If I were a premier, young running back and knew the tortured track record of Rashaan Salaam and Curtis Enis, then grasped the enormous pressure to fill cleat marks in the city of Walter Payton and Gale Sayers, I might blow off $17 million in guaranteed money, too.
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I wouldnt touch that brat with a ten foot pole. I was one of the people who wanted us to trade up to get him. He showed that he couldnt handle adversity in any way. The Bears should trade his rights for a decent back and QB and get on with their lives.
 
BigBull17 said:
Well lets be nice and throw in Hollings and make it Banks. Its a good deal for them :drool:
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They'd never do it but I swear, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Hell I'd throw in Fred Weary too.
 
Just give them our #1 for next years draft. We will be bottom half in the draft. So, lets give them it for Benson. ;)

20$ says they will work out a deal soon.
 
DC_ROCK said:
Just give them our #1 for next years draft. We will be bottom half in the draft. So, lets give them it for Benson. ;)

20$ says they will work out a deal soon.
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No, no no. We need our number one pick next year to draft a LT. We already have Dom Davis and Morency here, what will we do with benson? As interestign as it might sound, a three back system just does not work.
 
awtysst said:
No, no no. We need our number one pick next year to draft a LT. We already have Dom Davis and Morency here, what will we do with benson? As interestign as it might sound, a three back system just does not work.
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Well we could put one at QB like atlanta does...
 
DC_ROCK said:
Just give them our #1 for next years draft. We will be bottom half in the draft. So, lets give them it for Benson. ;)

20$ says they will work out a deal soon.
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Ragone and a 3rd would probably get it done...
 
awtysst said:
No, no no. We need our number one pick next year to draft a LT. We already have Dom Davis and Morency here, what will we do with benson? As interestign as it might sound, a three back system just does not work.
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You you really think a franchise LT is going to drop to the 20's?

Winston, Ferguson, and .... ahhhh.... whats his name from Auburn, will go top 10-12. IMO
 
DC_ROCK said:
You you really think a franchise LT is going to drop to the 20's?

Winston, Ferguson, and .... ahhhh.... whats his name from Auburn, will go top 10-12. IMO
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Yes but combine our 2006 1st (20ish) with your 2007 1st and that gets you into the mix for one of those LT's. We have to get one while the gettin' is good.
 
The Bears lost the ability to trade Benson's rights after August 12th. If they had traded Benson's rights to say the Texans, the Texans would have to sign Benson to whatever was left in their rookie salary pool. In other words, stop daydreaming.
 
Rumor is going around that he's going to sit out 2005 and reenter the draft for 2006.

If that's the case..then benson is on his way to hittin the pipe with Sticky Icky Ricky and Randy Moss.
 
you know i heard from the justice/mcclain show that it's not 17 million garentee it's more like 4 million...the bears are apparently really offering him a contract that's lower than cadillac who was picked after him...so don't judge too hard if you don't have all the facts...benson will be one heck of a RB once he is signed
 
Does anybody remember or even care that Ladanian Tomlinson held out as long (if not longer) as Benson?
 
LT Hold out:
Tomlinson missed the first 30 days of the Chargers' training camp, including two preseason games.

Benson has missed all of training camp.....
 
Chicago's Training Camp started July 25th. That was 33 days ago.

Tomlinson - 30 days
Benson - 33 days (so far)

I see a really big difference there.
 
Huge said:
Chicago's Training Camp started July 25th. That was 33 days ago.

Tomlinson - 30 days
Benson - 33 days (so far)

I see a really big difference there.
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From the Article you quoted...
Tomlinson, the fifth overall pick in the 2001 NFL Draft, is the second-to-last NFL first-rounder to come to terms. Only Missouri defensive end Justin Smith, the No. 4 pick by Cincinnati, remains unsigned.

Obviously, that had some bearing on the salary "slot". Benson, by waiting to be the last signed, has had his "slot" defined FOR him. Not an apples-to-apples comparison there.
 
I realize you quoted me but was that intended for me? I didn't quote an article.

But I agree what you mean by having your slot defined for you. It should be as easy as taking the average of the 3rd and 5th picks' contract and signing as the 4th pick.

But who's to say the Bears are offering this? All we know (and really don't have evidence of it) is that they're offering $17 million guaranteed. We don't know if that comes with a 5 or 6 year contract (although I read somewhere they've given up on it being a 6 year deal) that might average out to be a lot less than what the 5th pick is getting over the course of his 5 year contract.
 
Huge said:
I realize you quoted me but was that intended for me? I didn't quote an article.

But I agree what you mean by having your slot defined for you. It should be as easy as taking the average of the 3rd and 5th picks' contract and signing as the 4th pick.

But who's to say the Bears are offering this? All we know (and really don't have evidence of it) is that they're offering $17 million guaranteed. We don't know if that comes with a 5 or 6 year contract (although I read somewhere they've given up on it being a 6 year deal) that might average out to be a lot less than what the 5th pick is getting over the course of his 5 year contract.
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Sorry, that was LCROD's link, not yours. The point is still the same though. LT's situation wasn't as "locked in" as Benson's is.

I do agree that we don't really know what the offer from the Bears truly is, but he's being allotted (somehow) $17 mil, which would fall within his "slot".

IMHO Benson is getting BAD advice from his agent IF he's being told to let the Bears organization "blink" first.
 
Benson should just sign already. So the media can go back to talking about Grossman.

It's not like I try to hate on UT and their players, but when you got Benson holding out when all the other top rookies are signed and Ricky Williams playing again so he can pay off the money he owes the Dolphins, what is there to do?

And it's not just because I'm going to Texas Tech in a couple of years.
 
If you ask me Cedric needs to play football and stop watching Terrell Owens and some other ball players that want to feed thier family lobster tails instead of happy meals. PLAY FOOTBALL CEDRIC
 
disaacks3 said:
The point is still the same though. LT's situation wasn't as "locked in" as Benson's is.

I do agree that we don't really know what the offer from the Bears truly is, but he's being allotted (somehow) $17 mil, which would fall within his "slot".

IMHO Benson is getting BAD advice from his agent IF he's being told to let the Bears organization "blink" first.
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If he's being allotted $17 million over 6 years (just an example), then that doesn't fall within his slot if the other players' guaranteed salaries covered 5 years.

Guaranteed money (other than the signing bonus) in salaries is a relatively new thing that started around the time Vick signed his first deal. But that doesn't make it the meat of the contract.

I think a big problem is that Braylon Edwards' contract calls for him to make more money than Alex Smith within the first few years. Cedric is wanting something a lot closer to what Edwards has while the Bears are offering somethign that's a lot closer to Cadillac Williams' contract and they can't/won't agree to anything in the middle.

I totally agree Cedric is being greedy based on what I've read/heard. But because we haven't read/heard all the details, I have no problems assuming the Bears organization is being greedy as well.

BattleRedRaider said:
Benson should just sign already. So the media can go back to talking about Grossman.

It's not like I try to hate on UT and their players, but when you got Benson holding out when all the other top rookies are signed and Ricky Williams playing again so he can pay off the money he owes the Dolphins, what is there to do?

And it's not just because I'm going to Texas Tech in a couple of years.
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If you're looking for something to do, you can discuss Vincent Meeks violating his probation.

MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS said:
If you ask me Cedric needs to play football and stop watching Terrell Owens and some other ball players that want to feed thier family lobster tails instead of happy meals. PLAY FOOTBALL CEDRIC
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I simply disagree. If he's not being offered a fair contract (by fair, I mean compared to the other players selected before/after him), he should hold out.

And if you ask any player in the league, they'll tell you the same thing. Because they understand that their market is effected by how other contracts are dealt with. If Cedric agrees to be low-balled, then the market just got lowered for when it comes time for other players to negotiate.
 
Cedric is wanting the money he is deserved at his slot, he wants to play.. he showed up at Bears training camp facility for about 30min a few days ago.
 
According to Fox Chicago, Benson ends his 36 day holdout and signs with the Bears. I will give more details as I hear them.
 
Yeah it definately is about time he signed. I hope Chicago didn't offer him more after they stated they laid down the maximum offer.
 
If they were low balling him to begin with, I hope they offered him a lot more than what they said was their final offer.
 
I think Cedric was the next to last player to sign. I think Richie Incognito is still unsigned.
 
Huge said:
I think Cedric was the next to last player to sign. I think Richie Incognito is still unsigned.
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We are talking about first rounders here. Cedric was the last player to sign a contract from the first 32 players.
 
DC_ROCK said:
We are talking about first rounders here. Cedric was the last player to sign a contract from the first 32 players.
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Where was that (talking about first rounders) specified?

I'm aware he was the last first rounder to sign. I was pointing out that he was also the next to last draft selection (regardless of which round) to sign.
 
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