RocKetHtown
Noob
Just wait till monday the fallout is coming Longhorns are not happy..I cant wait to here sr610...Hope they call all day...They need to cut them aggie's to make this work 
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dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
RocKetHtown said:They need a TE so what do they do let Bo go to Tenn ...humm maybe The Texans dont like Longhorns..O well Im starting to not like The Houston Texans
Thank you. You've pretty much summed up the way all the complaining, ignorant fans on this board think and have responded when they didn't get their way in the first round yesterday.
Do all of us a favor, and don't waste a seat at Reliant with you presence. I'd rather have either a knowledgable fan there or a loyal one- obviously you are neither.
RocKetHtown
Noob
Well that is your JOB then :woot
RocKetHtown
Noob
ignorant fans? Hum not sure but I think he hurt my feelingsdalemurphy said:
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
RocKetHtown said:They need a TE so what do they do let Bo go to Tenn ...humm maybe The Texans dont like Longhorns..O well Im starting to not like The Houston Texans
You wanted Bo Scaife, do you watch any football besides UT?
Scaife has a) injury concers b)size concers and finally c) issues if he will be able to block at the next level.
You are the HOUSTON TEXANS of the NFL, not UT-Houston campus. UT players are overrated, don't believe me look at how many players from OU have been selected this weekend versuses the three from UT. Should enlighten a few.
Texas_Thrill
Veteran
Truth be told all this fussing over DJ not being a 3-4 LB well ummmm HELLO what do you call TJ....he played in the 4-3. I'm tired of hearing about schemes. FOOTBALL PLAYERS PLAY. That's all it should be. If you can't play and u need a scheme to help u out go in the 6th round.
I think casserly BLEW it big time. A 3rd rounder NEXT year???? I mean how cheap. I think he thought thomas davis was going to fall to us at 16. He can say what he wants but TJ was not his pick....talking about for depth. I must have missed something but last I checked we are not so well off we can draft for DEPTH.
I think casserly BLEW it big time. A 3rd rounder NEXT year???? I mean how cheap. I think he thought thomas davis was going to fall to us at 16. He can say what he wants but TJ was not his pick....talking about for depth. I must have missed something but last I checked we are not so well off we can draft for DEPTH.
Texas_Thrill
Veteran
I wonder the same thing. I mean i dont see why not hang on to sharper one more year if you don't have anyone to bring in place of him. INstead of drafting a ILB in the 3rd we wasted it on Morrency????
This is what I love about this message board around draft time. All these internet GMs thinking they know more how to run a football team than the real GM.
"If you don't draft the guy I'm in love with, then you suck"!
It's comical, to say the least.
"If you don't draft the guy I'm in love with, then you suck"!
It's comical, to say the least.
BattleRedGuy
Noob
RocKetHtown said:Just wait till monday the fallout is coming Longhorns are not happy..I cant wait to here sr610...Hope they call all day...They need to cut them aggie's to make this work
The only people listening to 610 anymore are Longhorns and Rocketfans anyway. Outside of the time with John McClain tomorrow, they are going to talk about the Rockets. Big deal.
Why should the team focus on drafting Longhorns. When was the last time a Texas-ex walked off the field with a Super Bowl ring?
RocKetHtown
Noob
You Know more then we do then?
WildBlackBear32
Rookie
Marcus said:This is what I love about this message board around draft time. All these internet GMs thinking they know more how to run a football team than the real GM.
"If you don't draft the guy I'm in love with, then you suck"!
It's comical, to say the least.
No, No, thats not it. There's a difference between being mad about the team not taking a player and taking a player we absolutely dont need and makes no sense. I'm not gonna rip the TJ pick anymore, however the Morency pick was ****ing terrible.
punisher89
Practice Squad
undefineddalemurphy said:
The texans lost a good linebacker....They need another one...They pass up one of the number one linebackers in the country..what are they thinking..Derrick Johnson hes the the next Laurence Taylor..how could you give up a star in the making for a cornerback who has maybe 3 good years left in his football career
punisher89
Practice Squad
BattleRedGuy said:
rings dont mean a thing...tracy mcgrady is one of the best players..he doesnt have a ring yet..peyton manning doesnt have a ring..randy moss doesnt have one..tim brown doesnt..want to name some more just say...PLEASE and i will get back to you
punisher89
Practice Squad
bigtex77 said:
the texans arent fit for a 3-4... a linebacker is a linebacker.. they are play makers..put DJ on the field and watch him work
RocKetHtown
Noob
sorry admin But i have to say this 3-4 D sucks and 4-3 rules..Its ok only 1 more year we will have to put up with this 3-4 d junk 
punisher89
Practice Squad
dalemurphy said:
so..true texans fans..everybody complains.do you not do it..do u not get on the site and complain about how texans loose games they should win..do you not complain about what players they pick..ask yourself if you are true..i didnt think so..we just say what we think is what they should do..we speak the truth.. DJ is a player and he is darn good..im sorry you dont like oklahoma but name a better linebacker than him.
punisher89
Practice Squad
if the texans would have ran the 4-3 D with the talent they had last year they would have went to the playoffs...you say DJ isnt ready for it..What College player is...DJ is the best of the best...They gave David Carr a chance..he isnt half bad.. give DJ a chance
1st. People are saying DJ isnt suited for 3-4 defense... If he was OLB in 3-4 yes, but ILB no... In 3-4 defense the 3 DL are supposed to tie up the line, and the MAC LB (Greenwood) is supposed to take on the lead blocker. Johnson would be the clean up LB. Greenwood would take on the blocks to let DJ run free and make the tackle... So, DJ's inability to take on blocks would be minimized in a 3-4 defense.
2nd. Im not high on the TJ pick, but im willing to live with it. He has character issues, but we do need depth and youth on the DL.
3rd. I dont really understand taking RB in 3rd round. I dont really know much about this guy but I dont think we need another back at least not for a 3rd round pick. Im gonna find out more about him after I post this.
4th. Even though I didnt really like the 1st 2 picks all that much, I think CC redemed himself with Mathis in the 4th. This guy is gonna be a gamebreaker once he improves his hands. I cant wait to see this guy sitting across the field from AJ. He will stretch the defense for AJ with that 4.28 40 speed! For those of you that dont know, Randy Moss ran a 4.25.
I cant wait for some1 to tell me that I dont know anything about football. That will make me laugh... Im very smart when it comes to football, and Im actually working to become a football coach (Def. Cord.). What is it with CC coming through in the 4th round? (DD, Earl Glen, Mathis) I think we should start trading all of our 2nd and 3rd round picks for 4th round picks!
Hopefully TJ and PB play up to their potential and dont get in trouble! This year we better get some pressure on the qb or our season is a bust already! GO TEXANS!!!
2nd. Im not high on the TJ pick, but im willing to live with it. He has character issues, but we do need depth and youth on the DL.
3rd. I dont really understand taking RB in 3rd round. I dont really know much about this guy but I dont think we need another back at least not for a 3rd round pick. Im gonna find out more about him after I post this.
4th. Even though I didnt really like the 1st 2 picks all that much, I think CC redemed himself with Mathis in the 4th. This guy is gonna be a gamebreaker once he improves his hands. I cant wait to see this guy sitting across the field from AJ. He will stretch the defense for AJ with that 4.28 40 speed!
For those of you that dont know, Randy Moss ran a 4.25.I cant wait for some1 to tell me that I dont know anything about football. That will make me laugh... Im very smart when it comes to football, and Im actually working to become a football coach (Def. Cord.). What is it with CC coming through in the 4th round? (DD, Earl Glen, Mathis) I think we should start trading all of our 2nd and 3rd round picks for 4th round picks!
Hopefully TJ and PB play up to their potential and dont get in trouble! This year we better get some pressure on the qb or our season is a bust already! GO TEXANS!!!punisher89
Practice Squad
bigtex77 said:
new england has alot more athletes and players than do alot of teams cough texans cough lets see how the teams that are switching to a 3-4 perform this year buddy boy
RocKetHtown
Noob
well tbo I am not a fan of the cowboys but they have won a hell of a lot of super bowls runing a 4-3..More then New England..But New England has the players to use it the Texans do not..and TJ played in a 4-3 at fsu so maybe they should have picked a player that played in a 3-4 not a 4-3bigtex77 said:
RocKetHtown
Noob
Jimmy Johnson could do wonders with this team..He would not be runing a 3-4
ojthecat
Waterboy
RocKetHtown said:well tbo I am not a fan of the cowboys but they have won a hell of a lot of super bowls runing a 4-3..More then New England..But New England has the players to use it the Texans do not..and TJ played in a 4-3 at fsu so maybe they should have picked a player that played in a 3-4 not a 4-3
For your information the Cowboys are going to a 3-4 this year. Also the Texans have always said that we are on a 5 year plan-- not a 3 year plan or a 4 year plan but a 5 year plan. Last I checked this will be year 4 and yes it gets tougher each year we are getting better. I say CC rocks and we will make the playoffs this year. Ask yourself one question are we better now than we were at the end of last year. I say yes much better.
RocKetHtown said:well tbo I am not a fan of the cowboys but they have won a hell of a lot of super bowls runing a 4-3..More then New England..But New England has the players to use it the Texans do not..and TJ played in a 4-3 at fsu so maybe they should have picked a player that played in a 3-4 not a 4-3
The Cowboys won their titles about a decade ago. Defenses and offenses have become a lot more complex by then and the 4-3 is becoming unpopular. Speed is the greatest necessity in the league now. Just look at the draft, speed was the most cuvoted(sp?) aspect. The Pats have showed that by having a lot of team speed especially at lb and an oversized, hole pluggin, run stuffing d-line you can win a lot of games.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
punisher89 said:
well, according to Carolina, Thomas Davis (who has never played LB), is a better LB than Derrick Johnson... They were in a Superbowl two years ago, by the way.
I have no problem with complaining or even with criticism. I was excited when DJ was there at 13 as well. My response was to that joker who said that since the Texans don't like the Longhorns, he may not like the Texans.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Davis37 said:Yeah Carolina was in the superbowl 2 years ago, but where were they last year? Hummmm...
they were ravaged by injuries and free agency and yet they still were the second best team in the NFC by December.
ComstockLode
Waterboy
I would still like a couple things explained to me by the knowledgable fans here 
1. How will our defense stop the run with Greenwood, Wong, Peek, and Babin? Not a single run stuffer in that group.
2. How will we get pressure on the QB without anything new added this year? Peek made plays when he was on the field, but that speaks for something, that he wasnt on the field all the time. Coupled with the fact that he isnt great in pass coverage, and he wasnt starting, so offenses didnt work too much on stopping his pass rush.
3. How will our corners do, when they have to defend Wide recievers for five seconds at a time. What about our safety situation?
4. Our offensive line still sucks, and we did nothing to make it better.
So maybe yall can explain to me why Casserly thinks we should be adding depth, instead of adding players who we can get on the field ASAP?
1. How will our defense stop the run with Greenwood, Wong, Peek, and Babin? Not a single run stuffer in that group.
2. How will we get pressure on the QB without anything new added this year? Peek made plays when he was on the field, but that speaks for something, that he wasnt on the field all the time. Coupled with the fact that he isnt great in pass coverage, and he wasnt starting, so offenses didnt work too much on stopping his pass rush.
3. How will our corners do, when they have to defend Wide recievers for five seconds at a time. What about our safety situation?
4. Our offensive line still sucks, and we did nothing to make it better.
So maybe yall can explain to me why Casserly thinks we should be adding depth, instead of adding players who we can get on the field ASAP?
ComstockLode
Waterboy
ComstockLode said:I would still like a couple things explained to me by the knowledgable fans here
1. How will our defense stop the run with Greenwood, Wong, Peek, and Babin? Not a single run stuffer in that group.
2. How will we get pressure on the QB without anything new added this year? Peek made plays when he was on the field, but that speaks for something, that he wasnt on the field all the time. Coupled with the fact that he isnt great in pass coverage, and he wasnt starting, so offenses didnt work too much on stopping his pass rush.
3. How will our corners do, when they have to defend Wide recievers for five seconds at a time. What about our safety situation?
4. Our offensive line still sucks, and we did nothing to make it better.
So maybe yall can explain to me why Casserly thinks we should be adding depth, instead of adding players who we can get on the field ASAP?
Our starting defense for next year: and someone explain to me how this is better than last years:
Walker Payne Robaire
Babin Wong Greenwood Peek
Dunta Coleman ?? Buchanan
Looks like one of the top 5 worst defenses in the league to me, and thats being positive...
ojthecat
Waterboy
ComstockLode said:I would still like a couple things explained to me by the knowledgable fans here
1. How will our defense stop the run with Greenwood, Wong, Peek, and Babin? Not a single run stuffer in that group.
2. How will we get pressure on the QB without anything new added this year? Peek made plays when he was on the field, but that speaks for something, that he wasnt on the field all the time. Coupled with the fact that he isnt great in pass coverage, and he wasnt starting, so offenses didnt work too much on stopping his pass rush.
3. How will our corners do, when they have to defend Wide recievers for five seconds at a time. What about our safety situation?
4. Our offensive line still sucks, and we did nothing to make it better.
So maybe yall can explain to me why Casserly thinks we should be adding depth, instead of adding players who we can get on the field ASAP?
Let me try
1. I would disagree. Babin did a very good job last year remember his first game against LT? Wong will be fine inside. And Peek all he did was make plays.
2. Pass rush will come from Peek, Babin and the corners.
3. Our corners did a fine job last year. They should only be better this year and no the QB will not have 5 seconds to throw the ball.
4. Our OL will be together for another year. That will make them better. Wand will be much improved. Our running game should be improved and our passing game should be improved with the addition of Mathis.
5. We are going to better this year. Our Defensive speed has been upgraded and we will be making the playoffs.
ComstockLode
Waterboy
Marcus said:
DJ would not have fixed our problems..... Our problems come from no size in our MLB core, and losing both of our starters from last year. Losing out on a two year removed pro bowl corner for a head case who has been injured a ton the past 3 seasons.
We had a horrible pass rush last season, how will it get better? Babin is going to be a double digit sack threat in his second year? That would be awesome, but not very probable.
Please provide some counterarguments as someone else has done.
ComstockLode
Waterboy
ojthecat said:
1. I agree Babin should become a better pass rush threat. As far as Peek becoming one is yet to be seen. Teams will be able to gameplan for him now that he is starting. But he could have a good pass rush season as well. Peek however, will struggle in pass coverage and rush defense.
2. Our corners shouldnt be considered reasons why our pass rush defense wont suck. You could be right about Peek and Babin, I just dont see either one of them getting more than 6-7 sacks a piece.
3. OUr corners did an amazing job last year considering how sorry our pass rush was. Is Buchanon able to stay healthy? Is he going to be a detriment to the team? Is he as good as Glenn?
4. I think our offense will be better as well, but dont expect Mathis to make an immediate impact. It will take him awhile and will be a development pick.
5. Team speed increased? Maybe.... who is going to stop teams from running it up the middle? And with two OLBs who will struggle in pass coverage?
ojthecat
Waterboy
ComstockLode said:
The fact that Peek wasn't starting has nothing to do with other teams not scouting him. This is the NFL these teams gameplan everything. When peek was on the field last year everybody in the stadium knew his only job was to rush the passer.
What is this about PB staying healthy? His health is not an issue and you know it.
Mathis will help open up the inside for AJ that is what he will bring. He is FAST.
Our OLB's will not be in much pass coverage Capers has always liked to use them to rush the passer. He now has 2 that can do this. You will see a marked improvment over last year. Shaper was too slow to cover TE. That will not be an issue with Greenwood.
I am very confused....I am willing to give people another chance but why didn't we pick any offensive linemen????? I am very very very very CONFUSED HERE....?????? i HAVE faith in casserly but why no offensive line help.....I am not quick to judge on travis yet....we will wait and see....
texanshot
texanshot