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Casserly on ESPN Draft Special

Anyone notice Casserly is interviewed the most? Just in this past week, he was on some newspaper, PFT.com, ESPN, TSN, Playboy TV...
 
mexican_texan said:
Anyone notice Casserly is interviewed the most? Just in this past week, he was on some newspaper, PFT.com, ESPN, TSN, Playboy TV...
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well we're the ones with the #1 pick
 
They all mentioned that Reggie Bush might very well be the best player to come out in 15 years. They discredited any concern about durability, and can he handle 25 carries a game. Stating that he WONT have to carry the ball that many times a game because he will be able to do in 10-15 carries what others are doing with 25. Said Tiki Barber with blazing speed. Gave me goose bumps just listening to them talk about what might be in our FUTURE!!!
 
Tailgate said:
They all mentioned that Reggie Bush might very well be the best player to come out in 15 years. They discredited any concern about durability, and can he handle 25 carries a game. Stating that he WONT have to carry the ball that many times a game because he will be able to do in 10-15 carries what others are doing with 25. Said Tiki Barber with blazing speed. Gave me goose bumps just listening to them talk about what might be in our FUTURE!!!
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yeah they didn't really say he COULD handle the 25 carries, they just said he won't have to.
 
First off, I think Kiper's hair is more slicked back and greasy than ever.

They started off with some highlights of Reggie Bush and the usual talk of his positives on the field...

Then, they bring Casserly on....

"Explosion, big play ability, catch the ball, multiple positions are his strenghts, etc"
Weaknesses - Not necessarily a weakness but he played only X amount of plays at USC. Not a workhouse type of guy. On the other hand, can score on one touch. Want him on your side, not on the other.

Played a bite from Reggie Bush - talked about his visit with the Texans (nothing new)

"We have not made our final decision yet. Brought in Mario Williams, he's qualified for 1st pick in the draft. Lots of options, drafting, trading, etc."
"What would it take to trade - Don't want to move very far, have outlined what it is going to take to move down...

Asked about D'Brick - Said it's a possibilty. May address offensive line in later rounds.

Charlie was his usual chummy self. Nothing new.
 
Not a lot of new stuff, other than it sounded like we gave up on D'Brick. He seemed like he was leaning away from Young, Mario seemed more likely if not Bush. Said something about maybe a lineman later in the draft.
 
ESPN brought Rick Spielman on to talk about that interview - Said texans are unlikely to trade down. Bush looks like their guy. More teams need QB over RB.

Mortensen - brings up local pressure on Houston regarding VY. Bush could stymie that pressure.
 
kastofsna said:
yeah they didn't really say he COULD handle the 25 carries, they just said he won't have to.
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Correct. Nor did they say he couldn't. Just canceled out the durabilty concern early with the comments.... Meaning if he COULD it would be a bonus.
 
Texans86 said:
Not a lot of new stuff, other than it sounded like we gave up on D'Brick. He seemed like he was leaning away from Young, Mario seemed more likely if not Bush. Said something about maybe a lineman later in the draft.
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The Mario comment seemed more like a trade down thing. I'm sure CC said something like that.
 
Tailgate said:
They all mentioned that Reggie Bush might very well be the best player to come out in 15 years. They discredited any concern about durability, and can he handle 25 carries a game. Stating that he WONT have to carry the ball that many times a game because he will be able to do in 10-15 carries what others are doing with 25. Said Tiki Barber with blazing speed. Gave me goose bumps just listening to them talk about what might be in our FUTURE!!!
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First off, it won't be 25 carries a game, it'll be 25 touches a game, and I can only assume that will include some punts and KRs to reach that #. But I don't get this, 'oh, he can get done in 15 carries what most backs get done with 25.' I don't think anybody is buying that. Tell me how great his vision is, his hands, cutting ability, but don't try to tell he's so great that he won't even have to play that much to be productive. And even if it were true, nobody wants a guy that's good for the first 12 touches, but not the last 12. I seriously hope they are underestimating his ability, because if that's the best they can come up with, it is not #1 worthy...
 
they're not saying the first 15 will be good and the rest won't, they just mean they won't have to run him 25 times a game to be effective.
 
TreWardTxn said:
First off, it won't be 25 carries a game, it'll be 25 touches a game, and I can only assume that will include some punts and KRs to reach that #. But I don't get this, 'oh, he can get done in 15 carries what most backs get done with 25.' I don't think anybody is buying that. Tell me how great his vision is, his hands, cutting ability, but don't try to tell he's so great that he won't even have to play that much to be productive. And even if it were true, nobody wants a guy that's good for the first 12 touches, but not the last 12. I seriously hope they are underestimating his ability, because if that's the best they can come up with, it is not #1 worthy...
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I think you got confused. They were alluding to the fact that even splitting carries he would produce the same #s as a full time back.
 
merril hoge just said kellen clemens is a better QB prospect than matt leinart and vince young. actually, i don't disagree THAT much. certainly not better than leinart, but the potential is there. if he didn't get hurt this past season, he's a first rounder easily.
 
Casserly also stated that although they haven't decided on the #1 pick, that they do not want to have to play against Reggie Bush. HINT HINT
 
MasterC25 said:
Casserly also stated that although they haven't decided on the #1 pick, that they do not want to have to play against Reggie Bush. HINT HINT
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yawn....wake me up on the 29th when the smokescreens are down.
 
Talking about Durability, I think work ethic also has a lot to do with it. My assumption could be totally unfounded, but it seems like people that are very much known for their work ethic (Jerry Rice, Rip Hamilton) rarely get injured, and it's been said that Bush has a fantastic work ethic. For example, Bush would never miss a game because of a pulled hammy (Jerome Mathis) or a pulled calf (AJ). He's too in shape for that crap. I don't think his weight (or the lack of) has anything to do with his duability.

I do worry about his up-right running style though. He's not a guy who runs with his shoulder-pads low. That is the only real legitimate, negative trait about Reggie Bush. All other negative traits are more based off of assumption than anything. People "assume" that he can't carry a full workload cause he didn't do it at USC. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he do that against Fresno St when the team actually needed him to carry a full work load? Oh sorry, he didn't get too many carries cause he took it 50 yards everytime he touched the ball. :drool:
 
phan1 said:
Talking about Durability, I think work ethic also has a lot to do with it. My assumption could be totally unfounded, but it seems like people that are very much known for their work ethic (Jerry Rice, Rip Hamilton) rarely get injured, and it's been said that Bush has a fantastic work ethic. For example, Bush would never miss a game because of a pulled hammy (Jerome Mathis) or a pulled calf (AJ). He's too in shape for that crap. I don't think his weight (or the lack of) has anything to do with his duability.

I do worry about his up-right running style though. He's not a guy who runs with his shoulder-pads low. That is the only real legitimate, negative trait about Reggie Bush. All other negative traits are more based off of assumption than anything. People "assume" that he can't carry a full workload cause he didn't do it at USC. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he do that against Fresno St when the team actually needed him to carry a full work load? Oh sorry, he didn't get too many carries cause he took it 50 yards everytime he touched the ball. :drool:
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Where the heck did you get that information from?
 
swtbound07 said:
Where the heck did you get that information from?
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Ummm... I got that from watching the Texans last season. ;) I could be wrong about AJ's pulled calf, but there was something wrong with his calf, and he likely pulled it. It definitely wasn't due to contact with another player. The point is that I don't see Reggie missing games due to self-injury. It would only come from full contact with another player.
 
Everyone considered Earl Campbell a prime example of a RB who was run into the ground. During his heyday - his first four seasons when he gained 2/3 of his career rushing yards - he averaged 22.6 carries per game.
 
phan1 said:
Ummm... I got that from watching the Texans season. :-P I could be wrong about AJ's pulled calf, but there was something wrong with his calf, and he likely pulled it. It definitely wasn't due to contact with another player.
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No more talking about physically fit athletes never pulling muscles. It is quite possible to be completely in shape but during the course of practice or play get pulls.

Your are trying to jinx Mr. Bush by suggesting that because he is in shape, he won't get hurt. IIRC, AJ was talking before last season being in the best shape of his life. Given that AJ had a 41 inch vertical jump at his combine, that is saying something. The man is a physical beast.

Technically, AJ's injury was in the back of the knee where it connects to the calf.

AND, from what I understand, one of the biggest risk factors for getting pulled hamstrings is being really fast. Seriously. That's what doc's say, but football teams gotta draft fast people.

BTW, if you have a pulled hamstring or the injury that AJ had, you will have to miss games if you are at a position requiring speed. As it is physically impossible to run. It is not a question of being a wuss.
 
The Dude Abides said:
ESPN brought Rick Spielman on to talk about that interview - Said texans are unlikely to trade down. Bush looks like their guy. More teams need QB over RB.

Mortensen - brings up local pressure on Houston regarding VY. Bush could stymie that pressure.
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remember, spielman is an idiot. for the dolphins he drafted CB jamar fletcher (despite having sam madison and patrick surtain on the roster) over QB drew brees, leaving the job soley to jay fiedler. this was just a few months after marino retired. makes sense. i won't even get into the a.j. feeley and lamar gordon trades. good lord.
 
I still stand by the opinion that athletes that are as fit as they should be don't pull hammies. I think I'm wrong about AJ's injury though, as people did say it was a strange injury.
 
phan1 said:
I still stand by the opinion that athletes that are as fit as they should be don't pull hammies. I think I'm wrong about AJ's injury though, as people did say it was a strange injury.
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The track record of track athletes (clearly extremely fit people) pulling hammies is very significant. As Texans Chick says, it goes with speed (there are stretching issues involved to help prevent--something which Mathis for instance has supposedly not been good about) not being out of shape. IMO there is something to the first part of what you are saying--that dedicated hard working athletes tend to be injured less or to work thru injuries better, but IMO that doesn't mean you can turn around and conclude all injuries or certain types are a result of poor work ethic.
 
Getting back to the original topic, one thing I took out of it is that Ferguson will not be chosen #1. If we get him, it will be through a trade down. I still think it's Trade Down or Bush. Williams is being taken seriously, but I don't really see the Texans using the #1 on anyone but Bush, whether they should or not.
 
"Apparently, one of the biggest risk factors for pulling hammies is being a fast runner. And that some people are more inclined to get hamstring pulls than others."
The above is from a link by Texans Cick.
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Don't mean to try to split hairs here, but the precise reason for "sprinters" having a relatively large % of pulls is that they are running at top speed when
they compete, vs a middle distance (1500 meters - metric mile for example), or a more extreme example would be a marathon competitor. In other words, among track guys its unusual for Marathon guys to pull a groin muscle but not
at all unusual for 100 meter guys to suffer a pulled groin.
 
phan1 said:
I still stand by the opinion that athletes that are as fit as they should be don't pull hammies. I think I'm wrong about AJ's injury though, as people did say it was a strange injury.
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I would say not preparing yourself properly (i.e. eating properly and stretching before playing) is more of a factor in people pulling muscles than them not being fit.
 
mexican_texan said:
Anyone notice Casserly is interviewed the most? Just in this past week, he was on some newspaper, PFT.com, ESPN, TSN, Playboy TV...
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Yeah he's trin' to get someone to bite on the second coming of {pick your icon}. And not having too much luck. Everyone keeps spitting that lure back out. Keep chunking CC, someone's bound to bite.
 
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