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Casserly on 610am this morning

Vinny

Vinny

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He is on after the commercial break if you want to dial in and see what he has to say. TJ was just on and he sounds like he has a great attitude.
 
Ok, the first segment is over. Here is a rough recap of what Casserly was saying for you guys...

Signed a few undrafted players and won’t announce them until they get the contracts finalized….probably Thursday.

Casserly surprised Browner wasn’t drafted.

Shazor wasn’t considered by us. Not fast enough.

Travis Johnson – highest rated interior lineman, had an opportunity to trade back further but didn’t want to lose him. Turns out there was another team on the phone with him so he would have been gone if we traded back again.

Vernand Morency – best player on their board at his pick. We were looking for RB depth.

Jerome Mathis – one of the fastest ever times at the combine. Ran a 4.26 on one watch. 5 TD’s on KO returns this last season. Has never been to spring practice due to him always being on the track team. Will improve with good coaching.

Drew Hodgdon – Played USC's Patterson and Cody and held his own when they broke film down on him.

C.C. Brown – fast guy who they thought was the best player at this pick

Kenneth Pettway – a project, good athlete.

Don’t forget about the Phillip Buchanon deal. Travis Johnson, Morency, Mathis and Buchannon will impact the team this year.
 
I'll take notes on the next segment as well. Looks like we have singed a few guys but CC wouldn't disclose who.
 
refered to cc brown as a strong safety rather than a free safety...
 
DC_ROCK said:
I wonder what DD thinks about the VM pick. I hope he doesnt start crying about it.
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I hope not. I think he still has a lot to prove and knows it.

I'm a little put off that some players are offended that we are getting younger and adding depth at their position. That is what the NFL is all about. Its a necessity and every team wants to have good depth.
 
Asked Casserly straight-up about Glenn and his future. Casserly said that is between Capers and Glenn and would not comment on it otherwise.

He said that the cap is something that you just have to consider in the Free Agency era. Each case is individual so you have to take them case by case.

On defense…We started 3 rookies last year and do not anticipate starting any rookies for the first time this season. Marcus Coleman should be better at FS due to experience now so the 3 rookies plus Coleman gives us 4 improved starters from last year’s defense who should play better this season. If we didn’t sign Morlon Greenwood Jamie Sharper would still be here.

Why draft Morencey instead of Justin Tuck….Didn’t think he could play linebacker. Doesn’t fit our defense. Capers said that Morency should have went in the 2nd round. They did the same thing in Washington when they drafted Stepen Davis. They thought he should have been drafted earlier. People questioned the Davis pick when they took him then because their returning starter had a good year like Dom had. Just have to upgrade the team where you can. Need picks in these rounds have hurt their drafts earlier.
 
Vinny said:
Need picks in these rounds have hurt their drafts earlier.
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Did Casserly admit this? If so, then bravo. I like his candor. I also like that we aren't making those mistakes any longer.

I actually like this draft the best so far. I know I'm probably in the minority.


Drew Hodgdon – Played USC's Patterson and Cody and held his own when they broke film down on him.
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This sounds great. McKinney is my new Matt Stevens...although that is a little too harsh. :whistle:
 
Vinny said:
Asked Casserly straight-up about Glenn and his future. Casserly said that is between Capers and Glenn and would not comment on it otherwise.


Uh OH, We sit in A Glenns amen corner, Do I have to make a new sign?
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I think you have to draft for need at times when you have a blank team (expansion). Sometimes is force a need or play guys like Jimmy Herndon.
 
Didn't Cameron Spikes and Steve Foley go to San Diego and play well last year?

Edit: mentioning Jimmy Herndon made me think of Spikes.
 
It's a good thing that we are now at the point where we can draft for talent rather than need.
 
On Character: Team did extensive background checks. Dealing with young men in high profile situations on their campus…. They feel all their picks had questions and they feel good about the players after they checked them out. We want good people and you win with good reliable people. Not fair to question a player about being falsely accused of things. All the players selected are all good guys and we are comfortable with them.

On Derrick Johnson…. couple of things. They thought KC would take Derrick Johnson when they traded back based on their information so they figured he would be gone at 16. They just signed Greenwood so they wanted the extra pick wile picking up the player that they liked in TJ. Travis Johnson had a 25 on his Wonder-lick
 
What about the possibility of trading down in the first round again?

Casserly said there was an opportunity to do so:
However, between where they were at 16 and where they would have moved down to: (a team in between those picks was interested in taking TJ, and the Texans decided not to make the deal)

worth pointing out at least
 
Detroit taking Mike Williams…. He talked to Matt Millen, Detroit is going to put Williams in the slot and will create mismatches.

Everyone liked Matt Jones….may take some time to develop but Casserly said that he will likely develop fast.

On Colts…Bill Polian building defense thru the draft.

On the Meatballs….Pacman jones best corner in the draft and is an impact player. Roos is a terrific prospect at LT. Brandon Jones may have as much raw talent as any WR in the draft. Roby has good speed and good yac. Thinks all the Titan WR picks can play in the NFL.
 
I was mad that Bo Scaife went to the Titans. He had injury problems at UT, but was a good TE when healthy.
 
nflnutswife said:
Vinny said:
Asked Casserly straight-up about Glenn and his future. Casserly said that is between Capers and Glenn and would not comment on it otherwise.

Uh OH, We sit in A Glenns amen corner, Do I have to make a new sign?
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Well, I listened to the interview. In response to Lance's question, "Will Aaron Glenn be a Texan this season?" Casserly replied so many words that it was a discussion between Capers and Glenn and would not comment further, and would not be making any announcement about it now or later.

Now, I won't pretend that I can read between the lines any better than the next guy, but yeah, I'd say you need to get a new sign.
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Vinny said:
... TJ was just on and he sounds like he has a great attitude.
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Very good interview! The guy does impress. Sounds very smart .. and I think he was a great pick.


Marcus said:
Now, I won't pretend that I can read between the lines any better than the next guy, but yeah, I'd say you need to get a new sign.
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lol :)
 
WildBlackBear32 said:
50... :thumbdown
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25 out of 50 on a timed test, that is probaly cultrualy biased, ala the SAT, isn't bad. Willing to bet it's higher then the average of a D-line prospect. Better then Frank Gore's 6.
 
In regards to the Wonderlic test:


In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15
 
TexansFanatic said:
In regards to the Wonderlic test:


In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15
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thanks for flame retardant as the haters were about to use this against TJ. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about a 25 yr old back, maybe that is why Morency was a value pick in the 3rd.
 
I don't understand why Aaron Glenn seeking a trade would be between Coach Capers and Aaron Glenn, with GM Charley Casserly on the sidelines. I though the GM was in charge of personnel issues such as the draft, contract negotiations, trades and managing the salary cap. Of course you want your GM to communicate and work together with the coach. However, this particular scenario sounds a little strange to me.
 
MojoMan said:
I don't understand why Aaron Glenn seeking a trade would be between Coach Capers and Aaron Glenn, with GM Charley Casserly on the sidelines. I though the GM was in charge of personnel issues such as the draft, contract negotiations, trades and managing the salary cap. Of course you want your GM to communicate and work together with the coach. However, this particular scenario sounds a little strange to me.
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Capers has a HUGE hand who he wants on the team and is more invloved with those types of transactions.
 
I don't understand why Aaron Glenn seeking a trade would be between Coach Capers and Aaron Glenn, with GM Charley Casserly on the sidelines. I though the GM was in charge of personnel issues such as the draft, contract negotiations, trades and managing the salary cap. Of course you want your GM to communicate and work together with the coach. However, this particular scenario sounds a little strange to me.
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This was a complete dodge of the question by Casserly. The GM CLEARLY has a handle on all personnel issues.
 
Texanfan,

To the point where the GM is washing his hands in relation to this rather high profile move? If that is right, then Coach Capers is taking on more of a GM role than I had thought possible. This is all very interesting.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
25 out of 50 on a timed test, that is probaly cultrualy biased, ala the SAT, isn't bad. Willing to bet it's higher then the average of a D-line prospect. Better then Frank Gore's 6.
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Yeah, can't imagine how people from different cultures can all come up with the answers to questions like these:

1. Assume the first 2 statements are true. Is the final one:
1 true, 2 false, 3 not certain?
The boy plays baseball. All baseball players wear hats.
The boy wears a hat.

2. Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will 4 pads cost?
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MojoMan said:
I don't understand why Aaron Glenn seeking a trade would be between Coach Capers and Aaron Glenn, with GM Charley Casserly on the sidelines. I though the GM was in charge of personnel issues such as the draft, contract negotiations, trades and managing the salary cap. Of course you want your GM to communicate and work together with the coach. However, this particular scenario sounds a little strange to me.
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This trade for draft picks involving PB and the decision to notify AG he's
free to shop himself to other teams are part and parcel of one process
which is the brain child of Cass. And to be sure, Capers was hired by Cass
and he can be fired by him so he reports to him, just as Cass & Bob McNair
have that same relationship. Capers is merely doing Cass's dirty work for
him.
 
infantrycak said:
Yeah, can't imagine how people from different cultures can all come up with the answers to questions like these:
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I'm willing to bet thats from the ESPN article that had the sample questions. Why don't you post a link or the rest of the questions, instead of the easiest two. WOuld you please?
 
Hoth-Boy said:
I'm willing to bet thats from the ESPN article that had the sample questions. Why don't you post a link or the rest of the questions, instead of the easiest two. WOuld you please?
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Those weren't even the easiest questions. The one with "which does not belong?" with 4 4-sided and one 6 sided shape and "the ninth month of the year is"...real toughies.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
I'm willing to bet thats from the ESPN article that had the sample questions. Why don't you post a link or the rest of the questions, instead of the easiest two. WOuld you please?
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So level of difficulty makes a test biased? Ummm, right.

Try Googling Wonderlic or Wonderlic sample questions. No reason for me to do your work for you. Of course, you could have done that prior to throwing the accusation out. How about this instead, find a single example of a wonderlic question you can even claim is racially biased?
 
TexansFanatic said:
In regards to the Wonderlic test:


In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15
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You left off DL
 
TexansFanatic said:
This was a complete dodge of the question by Casserly. The GM CLEARLY has a handle on all personnel issues.
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Capers decides who will play and what role a player has in a given scheme. Casserly stays out of it. Casserly comes in to play of course...but I assume that Capers starts the decision making part by his player evaluations.
 
infantrycak said:
So level of difficulty makes a test biased? Ummm, right.

Try Googling Wonderlic or Wonderlic sample questions. No reason for me to do your work for you. Of course, you could have done that prior to throwing the accusation out. How about this instead, find a single example of a wonderlic question you can even claim is racially biased?
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I never said that the test was racially biased, but I admit I may not have been as clear as I wished. I think teh Wonderlic, like nearly all standardized test, are biased to some extent on economic and/or the school system these kids attened. It doesn't amtter where many of these kids went to college, as the Wonderlic isn't testing them on their knowledge of their degres or degrees as the case may be.

As for the attempt to find a question that's biased isn't really possible. Nobody who writes a test is going to be so bold/ignorant to include a question that could easliy be fond to be biased. The company's lawyers wouldn't allow it. Insteasd I'll qoute some experts on the matter (link http://www.fairtest.org/examarts/spring95/wonderli.htm)
In fact, the Wonderlic has been widely challenged for both racial bias and lack of job-relatedness. Richard Seymour, an attorney with the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law who specializes in testing litigation, has written that the Wonderlic is a "recidivist" exam, "often litigated and condemned. The NFL has not revealed whether it has ever done a validity study of the Wonderlic's accuracy, fairness and relevance. Nonetheless, pro football is one of the increasing number of employers where "if you can't pass, you don't play" refers to a simple-minded test, not real performance".
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http://www.fairtest.org/examarts/summer95/merit.htm

But this is my opinion, I don't care what any of our players scored on the Wonderlic (and the SAT, just about any IQ test or stadard tesat is general despite what I may think about it) I'm really just sick of people bashing a player before he has even stepped on to the feild. Basically what I'm sayign is that we have differing points of view, and I should hav eknown better to bring it up. It's a) a hot topic issue b)not on that is condusive to the internet and c) both of use could spend days even weeks arguing the point, which would get out of hand, be entiry to time consuming and distract us from the Texans and the more importnat parts of our own personal lifes (besides I'm moving in a week and will soon be lucky to get own for the week after that)
 
Hoth-Boy said:
As for the attempt to find a question that's biased isn't really possible. Nobody who writes a test is going to be so bold/ignorant to include a question that could easliy be fond to be biased. The company's lawyers wouldn't allow it. Insteasd I'll qoute some experts on the matter
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So in other words these people have a belief based on nothing they can point to other than a result they don't like. And the "expert" doesn't even know how to use recidivist correctly.

In any event, the Wonderlic is like any other evaluation tool--a piece of the picture, just like 40 times, short shuttle, etc.--not the be all and end all to the decision.
 
infantrycak said:
In any event, the Wonderlic is like any other evaluation tool--a piece of the picture, just like 40 times, short shuttle, etc.--not the be all and end all to the decision.
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True statement since Elway, Marino, and Aikman didn't score high on the test and we all know what kind of careers they had. The test in my opinion is simply what it is......a test.
 
WildBlackBear32 said:
Those weren't even the easiest questions. The one with "which does not belong?" with 4 4-sided and one 6 sided shape and "the ninth month of the year is"...real toughies.
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good thing you didnt have to take the test huh? You would have made Frank Gore look good by scoring a 2...
 
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