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Casserly Gone Today?

TommyS

Waterboy
from Profootballtalk.com

CASSERLY OUT IN HOUSTON

A league source tells us that the Texans and G.M. Charley Casserly officially have parted ways after a six-year relationship, which preceded by more than two full years the team's official arrival to the NFL.

For now, we don't know whether the move is being characterized as a resignation or a termination. Our guess is that it will be described to the media as voluntary.

Several weeks back, we reported that Casserly would be fired after the draft. Our report prompted a strong denial from the team and from owner Bob McNair. Our prediction at the time was that all parties were hoping to preserve the appearance that Casserly's ultimate departure was not in any way forced.

His name has been mentioned as a potential replacement for Art Shell in the league office, but we've heard that the rumors of Casserly's candidacy for that specific position trace not to the Park Avenue, but to Casserly himself.

And based on things we're hearing it now appears that the Texans will make a run at Broncos assistant G.M. Rick Smith before moving on to other candidates. Some league insiders believe that the Broncos would never give Smith permission to leave, and other league insiders believe that the Texans don't (or at least shouldn't) want Smith given his close relationship with new head coach Gary Kubiak.


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POSTED 1:35 p.m. EDT, May 9, 2006

TEXANS TO TRY TRIANGLE OF AUTHORITY?

As Houston Texans owner Bob McNair and G.M. Charley Casserly prepare for a meeting that most likely will result in Casserly's depature from the organization, we're hearing that the plan post-Charley in Houson will be to utilize a "Triangle of Authority" similar to the arrangement that the Vikings utilized prior to the termination of director of player personnel Fran Foley.

Per a league source, Casserly's replacement will share control with coach Gary Kubiak and V.P. of football administration Dan Ferens.

We'd previously heard that the initial candidates to replace Casserly were former Falcons personnel guy Ron Hill, Eagles director of player personnel Jason Licht, and Bucs director of player personnel Ruston Webster. We're now hearing that Seahawks director of pro personnel Will Lewis, Broncos assistant G.M. Rick Smith, and Packers director of pro personnel Reggie McKenzie are also in the mix.

But because the reconstituted G.M. gig in Houston (which might not even carry that same title) won't include final say on the roster, the draft, and who the head coach is (or isn't), front-office employees who are still under contract with other teams can leave only with permission.

Hill currently is unattached, and Webster's and McKenzie's contracts expired after the April draft. We don't know the specific status of the other potential candidates, although we assume that Smith is still under contract in Denver since he only recently was promoted to assistant G.M.
 
From what we've heard Casserly doesn't do anything anyway. Kubiak picks the players and Ferens negotiates the deals.

So long Cass, we'll miss your double speak and smarmy attitude. Keep an eye out for us if you wrangle that NFL position.
 
Wow. I like the pick for Williams and I like Kubiak's involvement in it. Seeing as how I am hearing mixed information on who's decision it was, I sure hope this draft wasn't Casserly's way of giving a good-bye screw to Houston.
 
Good bye and good riddance. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. :BananaWav :shoot:
 
No really, don't go....please run this team into the ground some more, pretty please. Ferens does the negotiations, Kubiak gets the players and Casserly does.....does......does.....oh, he speaks to the media sorta like a puppet and is looks very confident in doing it. :hunter: >>>CHARLIE CASSERLIE!
 
Oh I hate him, to tell you the truth he's the real reason why we haven't had a winning season.

Well good luck in your life man, hopefully I'll see you cleaning up my school hallways.
 
Man, with Capers gone, Pendry gone, and now CC, who are we gonna rag on now? Oh well, bon voage Cassyboy.
 
El Tejano said:
Wow. I like the pick for Williams and I like Kubiak's involvement in it. Seeing as how I am hearing mixed information on who's decision it was, I sure hope this draft wasn't Casserly's way of giving a good-bye screw to Houston.
.................the real reason CC stayed for the draft is to take the heat off McNair and Kubiak for passing on bush for Williams. That is the reason Reeves was brought in.................he helped Kubiak on the draft not CC and McNair asked CC to stick around and be the fall guy for picking Mario............he knew he was leaving and that is why he had his famous press conference telling the world he was passing on Bush................he even said if someone is to blame on passing Bush they should blame him................He was setting himself up to be the fall guy for passing Bush and VY...............the problem is McNair and Kubiak are getting a pass in Houston and nationally.............but this act puts the heat squarely on mario Williams now..............not CC because he bailed..................Dan Reeves and Kubiak overthunk this one...........................Mario is going up a steep hill nationwide not only in houston................the pressure will be enormous for him to match Julius Peppers skills and numbers.......................this draft decision will be talked about for yrs......................we'll see who was right.
 
Well heyall. Just about every angle has been covered in these two pages already. Guess all I can add is..

Buh-bye Charley. :BananaWav
 
Bongo59 said:
.................the real reason CC stayed for the draft is to take the heat off McNair and Kubiak for passing on bush for Williams. That is the reason Reeves was brought in.................he helped Kubiak on the draft not CC and McNair asked CC to stick around and be the fall guy for picking Mario............he knew he was leaving and that is why he had his famous press conference telling the world he was passing on Bush................he even said if someone is to blame on passing Bush they should blame him................He was setting himself up to be the fall guy for passing Bush and VY...............the problem is McNair and Kubiak are getting a pass in Houston and nationally.............but this act puts the heat squarely on mario Williams now..............not CC because he bailed..................Dan Reeves and Kubiak overthunk this one...........................Mario is going up a steep hill nationwide not only in houston................the pressure will be enormous for him to match Julius Peppers skills and numbers.......................this draft decision will be talked about for yrs......................we'll see who was right.

I'm glad I'm wearing boots, because its getting real deep in here.

CC staying had nothing to do with the the draft pick, the decision to take Mario wasn't even made until days leading up to the draft.
 
hhuuummmm!!!! Let me see here. He screws up the first pick in the draft and now he is out the door...LOL. Looks to me like he wanted to stick it to the Texans before leaving.
 
........................The fall guy angle is superficial and very transparent to those who follow the team closely but it will work nationally where people are not plugged in what's happening here.

The truth is that CCs fate was already sealed on Jan 2 when they had no idea who they would be selecting #1 in the draft. It was CCs scouts and CC who built the draft board, not Reeves. It was Reeves, and not CC who asked the football related questions during the interviews of the head coaches. It was Kubiak who had his fingerprints all over this draft. It will be Kubiak, Ferens and a new VP of Player Personnel who will run the place from here on out.

This has been in the works for 4 months and McN's only deal with CC after he hung him out to dry in January was to let him walk on his own to save face and 'pursue other interests' if he would stay on long enough to get through the draft, i.e., to build Gary's draft board. Otherwise, any GM worth his salt would have quit after the Reeves hiring.
 
AtheGreat said:
Man, with Capers gone, Pendry gone, and now CC, who are we gonna rag on now? Oh well, bon voage Cassyboy.

You know what, that is fine by me. I think a FULL fresh start was needed for the franchise and if we can find a person who can start dealing with Kubiak starting this season..seeing the holes, etc as the games progress, then we will be better off. I won't complain at all about him again....maybe
 
I just heard yesterday that he is staying, ESPN said it right at the end of the show yesterday.
Confused??????
 
Hulk75 said:
I just heard yesterday that he is staying, ESPN said it right at the end of the show yesterday.
Confused??????
Yep I'm confused, some sources say he's leaving some say he's staying to poison our team for one more year. Well if he stays he only has 1 year in the contract so after that we might have another GM that might help our team's reputation and strength.
 
Hulk75 said:
I just heard yesterday that he is staying, ESPN said it right at the end of the show yesterday.
Confused??????

ESPN is wrong if you believe the NFL Network. They are reporting CC is outta here. :yahoo: :shots:
 
He did a better job than most of us give him credit for. Diss him, but give him credit, as he had a hand in picking our favorite players. I wish nothing but the best for Casserly.
 
mexican_texan said:
He did a better job than most of us give him credit for. Diss him, but give him credit, as he had a hand in picking our favorite players. I wish nothing but the best for Casserly.
agreed.
 
FILO_girl said:
Well heyall. Just about every angle has been covered in these two pages already. Guess all I can add is..

Buh-bye Charley. :BananaWav

Like the Crue song says ... "Don't go away mad, just go away".
 
mexican_texan said:
He did a better job than most of us give him credit for. Diss him, but give him credit, as he had a hand in picking our favorite players. I wish nothing but the best for Casserly.
Ya, I give him "credit" for Boselli, Hollings, Buchanon, etc....the list is just too long.
 
SESupergenius said:
Ya, I give him "credit" for Boselli, Hollings, Buchanon, etc....the list is just too long.
D-Rob, AJ, DD, Pitts, Hogdon, Brown, Peek, Orr, Earl, and Mathis can be added to that list.
 
mexican_texan said:
D-Rob, AJ, DD, Pitts, Hogdon, Brown, Peek, Orr, Earl, and Mathis can be added to that list.
You're kidding right? This is funny.

2-14.
 
Texans | Casserly expected to resign Wednesday
Tue, 9 May 2006 23:22:22 -0700

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans general manager Charley Casserly is expected to resign when he meets with team owner Bob McNair Wednesday, May 10. Casserly is a candidate to fill the vacancy of vice president of football operations, which was left open when Art Shell was hired as the Oakland Raiders head coach. If Casserly leaves, the leading candidates to replace him are Denver Broncos assistant general manager Rick Smith, Green Bay Packers director of pro personnel Reggie McKenzie and former personnel director Ron Hill, who worked for the Denver Broncos, Jacksonville Jaguars and Atlanta Falcons.
 
What a P.O.S. I'm so glad that guy is gone. I hope he is forced out of the NFL and up to the Canadian League. He has no business around a NFL team.
 
mexican_texan said:
He did a better job than most of us give him credit for. Diss him, but give him credit, as he had a hand in picking our favorite players. I wish nothing but the best for Casserly.

Thank you, wholeheartedly agree!
 
mexican_texan said:
Many more factors went into that.

Yes, but as GM he had insight into who McNair should hire as head coach. Casserly was part of building the worst expansion team of all time. He has done a poor job for the texans as GM and should be gone.
 
Unfortunatey for Cass his legacy will endure with Carr at the helm. Cass sealed his fate by drafting mediocrity with the first pick in 2002. Like most figure heads they get to move on while the shareholders get stuck with the mistake.
 
I am surprised to hear all this hatred for the man who helped bring Super Mario to the Texans. The way the boards have been lately, I thought we were all in agreement that this was the best decision/draft and the sports writers are just idiots for thinking otherwise.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Unfortunatey for Cass his legacy will endure with Carr at the helm. Cass sealed his fate by drafting mediocrity with the first pick in 2002. Like most figure heads they get to move on while the shareholders get stuck with the mistake.

I'd go so far as to say he sealed his fate by hiring somebody less than mediocre even before drafting Carr. I'll never understand the rationale for hiring Capers. At that point, he had one winning season in the 4 he had been a HC.
 
I dont know what to think here. The GM kinda shares the same fate as the head coach. I think CC got lumped in with Capers bad drafts, and now with Kubiaks good draft. IMO

I really dont know what all he does as a GM. But I do think hes been bad at negotiating players contracts. I mean hell, we are still paying Walker millions. Weaver was a lot more than I expected. And overall, I see high prices. I know that you have to pay good players to come here, but c'mon. Gary Walker does not deserve that kind of money. I think Capers just freaked out about losing a 3-4 lineman.
 
oso said:
I am surprised to hear all this hatred for the man who helped bring Super Mario to the Texans. The way the boards have been lately, I thought we were all in agreement that this was the best decision/draft and the sports writers are just idiots for thinking otherwise.

Speak for yourself. Reggie Bush was the right choice imo. I think they will live to regret it. But, it's done. Water under the bridge. Resignation and acceptance doesn't equate to agreement.
 
Porky said:
Speak for yourself. Reggie Bush was the right choice imo. I think they will live to regret it. But, it's done. Water under the bridge. Resignation and acceptance doesn't equate to agreement.
I think he was too as he was the only player I wanted if we weren't going to draft Young...and that was obvious it wouldn't happen early on. Bush would have turned our offense into a great explosive offense. We will have to see what Williams does and see how he impacts the defense. I don't even think he was a finalist for any of the prestigious line awards last year, so his workout was more impressive than his production. That said, there is nothing we can do about it except get behind our guys and judge them on what we see on the field.

I have mixed feelings on Casserly, but I don't like his decision making style. If you keep giving the decisions to the people under you and they pass the decisions to guys like Vic Fangio....ugh. I have a headache just thinking about his management style.
 
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