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Carr's Win

TexansLucky13 said:
Hahaha. You'd be surprised how many people will still find fault in Carr. Weird

David is awesome. I have been saying it and always will.
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I have always bashed Carr the last few years and for good reason.. This year he has shown significant improvement. He is not awesome, but he is doing much better. MUCH more poise, and a good deal of accuracy. There are times he still needs work on things, but I am quite happy how he has progressed this year compared to last.. All I ask for is improvement, and he has shown it.. so I am happy.
 
K.D. said:
Like I've posted before, Carr is in a no-win situation with some fans. Those fans are the one's who have to try to come up with anything to say to try and prove a point and hate to give credit where credit is due. Carr is going to lead this team and I'm his biggest supporter. Great game DC!!
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Out here on the left coast, all I got to see was the T.D.. When Carr threw the ball into the stands, it showed alot of FIRE and pent up frustrations. I hope this is the turning point to our season. I am also a David Carr fan.:yahoo:
 
Texan1 said:
Ok, we could debate whther that was his fault or not (unlike the last few weeks with the dropped snaps)... still think he had his best game of the season.
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What is there to debate? Carr got the ball stripped and fumbled.

That being said, the interception was not his fault as AJ got the ball stripped before he could make a 'football move'.

Carr is having a QB renaissance of sorts this year and its a great thing to behold. However, he is having trouble with fumblelitis this year and hopefully he can correct that soon. Kubes is doing wonders for him and putting him in the right spots as well. Kubes knows Carr's weaknesses and is avoiding them while accenting his developing strengths. If I saw Kubiak at a bar right now, I would buy him a drink and thank him.

Doug From The Woodlands
 
Marcus said:
Well, I'm going to take the high road and say I just disagree with you. The night and day difference between Carr today and Carr a year ago . . . to chock that up to only Kubiak tutoring him is simplistic. You still need to have some confidence that you aren't going to get creamed everytime you drop back and throw the ball.

I don't care if Carr got sacked 10 times today. He still had time to throw on at least 22 of his 29 attempts, and to not give the OL a little credit for that is stupid IMO.
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It's actually a combo of both. The line is playing better, but they still struggle running, so that says that there is more work that needs to be done. Now that DC has more weapons & the improved pass protection & an offensive minded coach, things are starting to open up.
 
Vinny said:
In all fairness he struggled with his deep ball. It doesn't look very good this year....he is throwing the ball up like punts too often. Many of those passes are going to get picked off if he keeps doing that.
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Thankfully Andre has stepped up and grabbed them.How many deep passes has AJ caught from Carr this year?At least 2 or 3.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
What is there to debate? Carr got the ball stripped and fumbled.

That being said, the interception was not his fault as AJ got the ball stripped before he could make a 'football move'.

Carr is having a QB renaissance of sorts this year and its a great thing to behold. However, he is having trouble with fumblelitis this year and hopefully he can correct that soon. Kubes is doing wonders for him and putting him in the right spots as well. Kubes knows Carr's weaknesses and is avoiding them while accenting his developing strengths. If I saw Kubiak at a bar right now, I would buy him a drink and thank him.

Doug From The Woodlands
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What are you talking about? half of his fumbles, Kubes himself exonerated Carr after going back & watching the tape (Center snapping the ball on the wrong count etc., Flanagan stepping on his feet). The other half, happen to every QB in the league ( Jason Taylor hitting his arm, etc.). There is no question he has to get better taking care of the ball but the dude has been solid. I think he is back to his 2004 form.
 
If Carr gets this win, then he gets all of the past losses. The team played better and they played better when they needed to at times. Carr was simply a spoke in the wheel and he performed his job to expectations.

The Texans won.
 
Vinny said:
I've said nice things about his game today...I just didn't say the same thing in every post. He made some great throws but his deep ball looks funky right now for some reason. It seems like he is pushing it.
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It may seem like he's pushing it probably b/c he threw them so rarely with the previous regime.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
If Carr gets this win, then he gets all of the past losses. The team played better and they played better when they needed to at times. Carr was simply a spoke in the wheel and he performed his job to expectations.

The Texans won.
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Are you joking? Half of the people on this board would be more than willing to blame Carr for every single loss in this teams franchise history.
 
Props to Carr. Awesome win with an awesome team!
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I dont mind him throwing the ball up because AJ can go up and get it. AJ ticks me off when he drops the 5 yard slant play.
 
Dunno, but for some reason seeing a frequently-fumbling QB wagging the ball out there before he gets into the end zone made me tense. :whew

I thought the guy had a solid game (no fumbled snaps probably helps the offense more than we know!), but I still get frustrated at some of the weird short passes on third down. Maybe everything else is covered, but yet again this week I saw a failed 3rd-down conversion following a short, well-covered dump pass that was nowhere close to the first down marker. And the molasses-like pre-snap pace when time is short is puzzling, although I'm sure he's being coached to trade playing smarter for playing faster. He definitely makes fewer boneheaded decisions this year.

But let's not dwell on the negatives today. Solid game by Carr, with room for improvement. There is absolutely no denying that the 2006 David Carr is a better QB than the 2005 model. It's nice to see the progress. And this may just mean 2 weeks off from the annoying "start Sage" threads. (Please?)

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Vinny said:
In all fairness he struggled with his deep ball. It doesn't look very good this year....he is throwing the ball up like punts too often. Many of those passes are going to get picked off if he keeps doing that.
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Vinny, not to point a finger just at you, but in years past people would call for David to just "throw it up" for AJ and let his athletic ability take over. Now, he does that, AJ overpowers guys, and now he's "struggling with the deep ball?"

I'm in the field of "I'll take my chances with AJ one on one" on deep balls. We saw why today.
 
mexican_texan said:
There must be 15 cameras on Jason Babin....
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I could see a HD program come out called "the Tasmanian Babin: Anatomy of a Sack." The fifteen HD cameras filming in a 360 degree portrait supposedly can capture Babin getting his spin on while the offensive lineman does a squat thrust and recovers easily. :)
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I could see a HD program come out called "the Tasmanian Babin: Anatomy of a Sack." The fifteen HD cameras filming in a 360 degree portrait supposedly can capture Babin getting his spin on while the offensive lineman does a squat thrust and recovers easily. :)
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Was that like the March of the Penguins? Must've used up a lot of film.
 
swtbound07 said:
speaking as one of the most vocal carr critics, i reiterate what i've always said. I don't give a damn how it happens, i just want to WIN. we WON. what kind of fan can complain today?
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I agree. Carr played a good game today. Defense was better. Overall I saw a big improvement from last weekend. Except our last drive. First downs are more important than going down field.We needed to stay focused on Killing the clock!!!.
Congrats to Mario!!!:killerbs:
 
Kaiser Toro said:
If Carr gets this win, then he gets all of the past losses. The team played better and they played better when they needed to at times. Carr was simply a spoke in the wheel and he performed his job to expectations.

The Texans won.
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AH!:killerbs: The Burning Bush has Spoken!
Preach baby Preach!
 
Congrats Texan Fans. I been telling you for two years that Carr was OK, just needed some help. He was very good today and did you see the smile when he threw the first touchdown? He was having fun, first time he did not have to run for his life all game.
Good to see the progress on the team.
Hope it continues and you get to keep some Jag butt this year.
Enjoy the rest of the season.
 
Hello, its what i have been saying. Give Carr some daylight he'll give you a win. His fumble was a great play by jason taylor and his int was even a better take away (fumble) by dolphins corner. AJ made it up by burning him for a td. Next up........ Them. the source of evil in the State of Texas. The Cow(no i didnt try to kill myself, the crack pipe is not mine, that was not me on the video with the whore etc...)boys. Awwwwww man way to go into a bye week.
 
I thought Carr played very well. He wasn't Peyton Manning or Tom Brady out there, but he definately looked like a good QB. I thought he limited his mistakes and it's nice to not see happy feet for the 3rd game in a row. This was Carr's first full good game under Kubiak. The other three he played well in spurts. Today he had a good game from start to finish. He's just going to get better and better under Kubiak.
 
I'm glad that some of the Carr haters are coming around a bit. He has been pretty efficient this year and the Texans losses are not because of him. Was really glad to see the joy and attitude on the bootleg TD run.
 
Of course I'd like to see fewer fumbles by Carr, but I'm not worried about this 4 year + tendency. These are largely a result of the intense defensive pressure he has been subjected to because of the poor line protection he has had. As our offensive line improves, and he not only is sacked less, but also is pressured less, the fumbles will decline.

I also noticed today that many of the 2 and 3 yard passes were a direct result of the defensive pressure he was under and not having time to find his downfield receivers. Again, as our line improves, you will see Carr hitting more receivers downfield, particularly in the 10 to 15 yard range.

Look at Carr today, then imagine our passing game 2 or 3 years down the road after our lineplay begins to come together.
 
So as of right now, Carr is on pace for 3400+ yards, 28 TDs, 8 INTs. Not a bad season if he can keep it up.
 
BradK10 said:
Vinny, not to point a finger just at you, but in years past people would call for David to just "throw it up" for AJ and let his athletic ability take over. Now, he does that, AJ overpowers guys, and now he's "struggling with the deep ball?"
I'm in the field of "I'll take my chances with AJ one on one" on deep balls. We saw why today.
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isn't weird how this question is posed every week, & yet nobody seems to want to step up & claim that they ever said this? I mean really, EVERY team in the NFL does this whether it is 20 yards out or 60. I'm in the camp with you my friend, Let your Beast WR go up & make a play on the ball!
 
Good game Carr. In the end, a win is a win. I don't care how ugly, close, etc as long as we get the win.

I think the strength of the offense is when the ball is in the air. That AJ & Moulds combo needs to be put use more often.
 
Vinny said:
He made some great throws but his deep ball looks funky right now for some reason. It seems like he is pushing it.
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It definatly looks funky. Past about 30 yards he doesn't seem to have zip on the ball. It floats and wobbles. This is from a QB that is noted for having an extremily strong arm. Not sure what's up. Hand injury so he can't grasp the ball hard enough for a deep throw? Shoulder issue as he never seems to come over the top, but sort of has a dart throwing motion? Maybe the staff changed him to that motion and he can't toss it well long? Not sure what's up, but something doesn't look right. He is hitting all the short to intermediate stuff well though.
 
Vinny said:
In all fairness he struggled with his deep ball. It doesn't look very good this year....he is throwing the ball up like punts too often. Many of those passes are going to get picked off if he keeps doing that.
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BradK10 said:
Vinny, not to point a finger just at you, but in years past people would call for David to just "throw it up" for AJ and let his athletic ability take over. Now, he does that, AJ overpowers guys, and now he's "struggling with the deep ball?"

I'm in the field of "I'll take my chances with AJ one on one" on deep balls. We saw why today.
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Mr teX said:
isn't weird how this question is posed every week, & yet nobody seems to want to step up & claim that they ever said this? I mean really, EVERY team in the NFL does this whether it is 20 yards out or 60. I'm in the camp with you my friend, Let your Beast WR go up & make a play on the ball!
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:perfect10:
 
Carr has improved tremendously this year under Kubiak. He still has some things to work on, but his poise and decisions are better.
 
This wasn't Carr's win it was a team win--yeah, Captain Obvious to the clarification but this took an all around effort--solid passing game, good special teams (eliminated Welker just about--Brown was unusually long), good pass rush, decent to below average run D, below average pass coverage and still an unmentionable running game--combo--beat a bad team. Carr did fine.
 
Vinny said:
In all fairness he struggled with his deep ball. It doesn't look very good this year....he is throwing the ball up like punts too often. Many of those passes are going to get picked off if he keeps doing that.
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yeah and you're saying this about the guy with one of the best TD to INT ratio in the league so far, good insight.
 
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