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Carr Pounded

edo783

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According to the artical by Richard Justice in the Chronic, it seems Carr wasn't feeling very well physically:

"Carr hung around longer. When he did leave, he bent down to pick up a box lunch.

He needed two tries. He groaned the first time and straightened up. He reached a second time, picked the food up and walked unsteadily out of the stadium."
 
The early line on the Texans/Steelers game is the Steelers by 6. HAHAHA! They should revise that if they want anyone to bet on the Texans. It should be the Steelers by 12 at least.
 
I don't blame him for not feeling well after the game with the pounding he took. He got his bell rung a couple of times when he ran for the first, and when he tried to run for the score on 3rd down.
 
After one of those early hits, I don't think he ever got his snap back. He just looked lost at at times, overwhelmed at other times, and scared the rest of the time.
 
Double Barrel said:
After one of those early hits, I don't think he ever got his snap back. He just looked lost at at times, overwhelmed at other times, and scared the rest of the time.

The one hit that drew the penalty (which actually was a legal hit, but unnecessary) rung his bell pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a mild concussion from that one (did you see him holding his head?).
 
bbills4life said:
The one hit that drew the penalty (which actually was a legal hit, but unnecessary) rung his bell pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a mild concussion from that one (did you see him holding his head?).

If that were the case, he having a concussion, he needs to be pulled. Carr is not good enough to win a game on his own.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
If that were the case, he having a concussion, he needs to be pulled. Carr is not good enough to win a game on his own.

I don't think any one play IS good enough to win on their own. There's a couple articles in the local paper up here about famous trios (Aikman/Smith/Irving, Kelly/Thomas/Reed, etc) from the past. It just points out the fact that it takes more than one person to win a game. A QB isn't any good if the WR's can't catch the ball. A QB isn't any good if his OL can't block. A RB isn't any good if his OL can't block. It really boils down to what everyone has been saying for YEARS...y'all need an OL.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
If that were the case, he having a concussion, he needs to be pulled. Carr is not good enough to win a game on his own.

Please put at least a little thought into your post before you type it!!!!

It's a TEAM game!

PS: That was a pretty good article.
 
Rightnow said:
The early line on the Texans/Steelers game is the Steelers by 6. HAHAHA! They should revise that if they want anyone to bet on the Texans. It should be the Steelers by 12 at least.

The Steelers rarely blow anyone away.....they try to get the lead and then hold on (much like the Texans have done).....that is probably why the line is only 6, along with it being the Texans home opener and an anticipated rally after a terrible game....
 
CoolieMan said:
along with it being the Texans home opener and an anticipated rally after a terrible game....


Anticipated rally ? Im not gonna hold my breath . I'd jump all over the Steelers -6 in this game .

I think Capers should start HIMSELF at QB just to save Carr from another beating ...... Remember the last time these two teams played ? The Texans had a grand total of 47 yards .

Steelers 45-9
 
bbills4life said:
The one hit that drew the penalty (which actually was a legal hit, but unnecessary) rung his bell pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a mild concussion from that one (did you see him holding his head?).

yep, that's the one. He just looked out of it from that point forward. Later in the game we were hoping that they would put in Banks or Ragone to 1) give Carr a break, and 2) maybe spark something in the offense in his absence.
 
Amazing Race said:
Exactly...I was very envious (I'm sure Carr would be also) when watching the Colts/Ravens game. The Ravens have a very good defense, yet Peyton had ALL day to throw on most plays. I think Carr would have had a field day behind Manning's offensive line...

I want to know why we didn't do anything to improve our offensive line??????
Manning and his WRs are on que. If you play closer (not saying you don't)attention....the reason he executes so many play is that Manning is quick about his throws. All the credit shouldn't be given to Indy's O-line. Manning and Co. have their timing down to the T.
 
The Steelers rarely blow anyone away.....they try to get the lead and then hold on (much like the Texans have done).....that is probably why the line is only 6, along with it being the Texans home opener and an anticipated rally after a terrible game....

I don't think we could pull off a rally against a pop warner team...
 
Rightnow said:
The early line on the Texans/Steelers game is the Steelers by 6. HAHAHA! They should revise that if they want anyone to bet on the Texans. It should be the Steelers by 12 at least.

I think they left off a 6 - should be "66."
 
Wharton said:
Please put at least a little thought into your post before you type it!!!!

It's a TEAM game!

PS: That was a pretty good article.

When you select a QB with the number one overall pick, you do it with a certain amount of expectations to follow - leadership, ability to overcome diversity to name just a few intangibles that should come from any starting QB, much less the top pick.

Carr has not shown anything other than the ability to be an average QB when he does get the opportunty to make a play. It is a team game and he has let his team down from the positon that he anchors.

If he is as good as we think that he is, then we are overpaying. If he is not as good he some think that he is then we need to restrcuture or cut our losses.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Carr has not shown anything other than the ability to be an average QB when he does get the opportunty to make a play. It is a team game and he has let his team down from the positon that he anchors.

That's true! I mean, he should be good enough to overcome lack of pass protection, a constantly collapsing pocket, blockers than won't read blitzes, and poor play calling. :ok:

[/sarcasm]
 
He's in a slump and unfortunately the offensive line cannot help a slumping QB.

It will be interesting to see what Carr makes out of this season.
 
corrosion said:
Anticipated rally ? Im not gonna hold my breath . I'd jump all over the Steelers -6 in this game .

I think Capers should start HIMSELF at QB just to save Carr from another beating ...... Remember the last time these two teams played ? The Texans had a grand total of 47 yards .

Steelers 45-9

I'll take 47 yards again if it means a win. Winning ugly is better than not winning at all.
 
Double Barrel said:
That's true! I mean, he should be good enough to overcome lack of pass protection, a constantly collapsing pocket, blockers than won't read blitzes, and poor play calling. :ok:

[/sarcasm]
Dont leave out WR not paying attention or being cowards ( thats you Bradford)
 
SBTexans08 said:
Manning and his WRs are on que. If you play closer (not saying you don't)attention....the reason he executes so many play is that Manning is quick about his throws. All the credit shouldn't be given to Indy's O-line. Manning and Co. have their timing down to the T.

Remember, Indy was 0-5 in preseason. Their OLine has been together for a while. They just click for whatever reason, coaching, OLine, or what.

bobby 119C :ok:
 
bbills4life said:
The one hit that drew the penalty (which actually was a legal hit, but unnecessary) rung his bell pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a mild concussion from that one (did you see him holding his head?).



I for one did not think the hit was legal. If it wasn't the definition of spearing then what is? Let's run that play back in our heads ..... insert Peyton Manning where Carr is and one of our DBs in place of the Buffalo DB.... anyone see a flag?
 
There was a flag in this case.

It wasn't spearing because he never made contact with his helmet. It was shoulder to shoulder even though it LOOKED helmet to helmet.
 
bbills4life said:
There was a flag in this case.

It wasn't spearing because he never made contact with his helmet. It was shoulder to shoulder even though it LOOKED helmet to helmet.


the flag was picked up because Carr went head first ... not because they decided it was shoulder to shoulder .... my tone of my post was not based upon anything the Bills did or did not do ..... it was based on the frustration that we never seem to get the benefit of the doubt on calls such as those ... I could tell you about other past incidents (Manning's "non-fumble" last year, Carr going ballistic after a roughing non-call, .... but it would only bore you .... good luck the rest of the year ...
 
I personally can answer it, because they want to think everyone they play are playoff contenders. Makes their decent team look better, let us remind them how our 3rd stringers took them behind the woodshed last yr with playoff's for them on the line.

Kick their *** out, new week new team
 
The majority of the Bills fans have been good posters with diginity & class. Most of them haven't slammed us. They have just as much right posting as I do.

bobby 119C :ok:
 
chuckm said:
the flag was picked up because Carr went head first ... not because they decided it was shoulder to shoulder .... my tone of my post was not based upon anything the Bills did or did not do ..... it was based on the frustration that we never seem to get the benefit of the doubt on calls such as those ... I could tell you about other past incidents (Manning's "non-fumble" last year, Carr going ballistic after a roughing non-call, .... but it would only bore you .... good luck the rest of the year ...

That's not the play I'm talking about. The one I'm talking about was the one where Carr slid feet first, not head first.
 
Shauk25 said:
I personally can answer it, because they want to think everyone they play are playoff contenders. Makes their decent team look better, let us remind them how our 3rd stringers took them behind the woodshed last yr with playoff's for them on the line.

Kick their *** out, new week new team

I'm still here because the Texans are my "B" team. I follow them, but being in NY it's difficult.
 
bigtex77 said:
Now children, let's play nice!


hey bigtex how about we go over to the Jags board and rag on them about getting swept last year? We're good for 6 weeks or more on that ....

:ok:
 
bbills4life said:
That's not the play I'm talking about. The one I'm talking about was the one where Carr slid feet first, not head first.

And it was an intentional blow to the head with his shoulder when the QB had given himself up. Hence the flag. Ya hit a QB intentionaly in the head and they will throw the flag, except when he is running and NOT giving himself up. Then he is like any other runner.
 
chuckm said:
hey bigtex how about we go over to the Jags board and rag on them about getting swept last year? We're good for 6 weeks or more on that ....

:ok:
That would have been fun prior to Sunday, I can't even imagine the backlash as of now. LOL
 
edo783 said:
And it was an intentional blow to the head with his shoulder when the QB had given himself up. Hence the flag. Ya hit a QB intentionaly in the head and they will throw the flag, except when he is running and NOT giving himself up. Then he is like any other runner.

I'll agree it was an unnecessary hit, but he never touched his head. I think his head hit the ground. The only contact that was made was at the shoulder.
 
bigtex77 said:
Thanks, I just changed it.


Ok I'm working on some ideas for my signature ....


here's a few ....


1) Tag, you're it
2) LOOOOOOOOKOUTTTTT
3) Ok, who had 4 in the sack pool???
4) Why is David always in a bad mood????
5) I thought you had the linebacker
 
chuckm said:
Ok I'm working on some ideas for my signature ....


here's a few ....


1) Tag, you're it
2) LOOOOOOOOKOUTTTTT
3) Ok, who had 4 in the sack pool???
4) Why is David always in a bad mood????
5) I thought you had the linebacker

They're all good but I love #1, it's simple, but very funny!
 
chuckm said:
Ok I'm working on some ideas for my signature ....


here's a few ....


1) Tag, you're it
2) LOOOOOOOOKOUTTTTT
3) Ok, who had 4 in the sack pool???
4) Why is David always in a bad mood????
5) I thought you had the linebacker

6) Patty-cake, patty-cake, baker's man...
7) EWWWWWWWWWW COOTIES!
8) AFLAC!
9) I just saved a bunch of money by switching to GEICO!
 
bbills4life said:
6) Patty-cake, patty-cake, baker's man...
7) EWWWWWWWWWW COOTIES!
8) AFLAC!
9) I just saved a bunch of money by switching to GEICO!

#7 is good but the others don't convey the point .... personally I think I'm going with #5 ....
 
Amazing Race said:
I understand this, but Peyton has much more time and a much more stable pocket than Carr. I specifically watched for this during the game. It is apparent.


This is true ... Pey-Me-A-Ton has MUCH more time ..... If you dont believe it next Sunday sit and watch both games with a stop watch in your hand ..... You will be surprised
 
This is true ... Pey-Me-A-Ton has MUCH more time ..... If you dont believe it next Sunday sit and watch both games with a stop watch in your hand ..... You will be surprised

Sure he does, but he also knows how to use a pump fake and how to look off defenders, and he also knows how to call audibles...A lot here complain about the playcalling but a lot of the time it is Carr audibling to a run play at the line...not to get off topic or anything...
 
chuckm said:
hey bigtex how about we go over to the Jags board and rag on them about getting swept last year? We're good for 6 weeks or more on that ....

:ok:

LOL! :heh: I know I shouldn't condone trolling, but this made me laugh.
 
Now your sig would be funny if it was coach Palmer talking to DC about the line and he said I have good news.. "you are signing a big name tackle?" no I just saved a bunch of money by switching to geico. Maybe I should do commercials.

Anyways, I don't buy the concussion theory I think he may have have held his head like that to ensure the flag was thrown. He did have the presnce of mind to take the pylon on his td scramble. He looked out of it because he was following AJ down the field. We need to go back to a 3 rec. set more often you can tell he doesnt have much confidence in his TEs and unless its a fly route he has no confidence in Bradford either. That tells me He is trying but outside of DD and AJ no one has really stepped up and be come a second go to guy. Id like them to start gaff instead of bradford at #2 see if that helps maybe someone that works back to the ball and goes over the middle will help. That and totally scrapping the zone blocking scheme.
 
texan279 said:
Sure he does, but he also knows how to use a pump fake and how to look off defenders, and he also knows how to call audibles...A lot here complain about the playcalling but a lot of the time it is Carr audibling to a run play at the line...not to get off topic or anything...

Pump fake .... He doesnt have time to pump fake !
Look off defenders ? give me a break , no one but AJ and DD can catch not to mention he doesnt have time to look at more than one option .
You would audible to a Running play too if you had been sacked 140 times in the last 3 seasons .
It all boils down to TIME ....Carr doesnt have enough . :brickwall

Carr went to Casserly in the off-season asking that the line be addresed ..... instead of upgrading their personel , putting money into it they change the protections ? Three step drop ? They called it what , Twice ? That sure did address the problem . Come on Casserly ..... Give Carr what he needs on the O-line and give him another reciever too ....

chuckm said:
hey bigtex how about we go over to the Jags board and rag on them about getting swept last year? We're good for 6 weeks or more on that ....

Double Barrel said:
LOL! :heh: I know I shouldn't condone trolling, but this made me laugh.

All good things must come to an end :brickwall
 
BigBull17 said:
Dont leave out WR not paying attention or being cowards ( thats you Bradford)

I agree that Bradford sucks and should be on a Greyhound out of town, but Gaffney got hit by that ball because he was just as surprised as everyone else watching the game that Carr threw to someone other than AJ.
 
corrosion said:
Carr went to Casserly in the off-season asking that the line be addresed ..... instead of upgrading their personel , putting money into it they change the protections ? Three step drop ? They called it what , Twice ? That sure did address the problem .

That reminds me - they are pointing to the running backs being to blame for 4 sacks, I think that indicates a change too. I don't remember from last year if we left our RBs in that frequently to pass block. Anybody know?
 
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