Carr just isn't a winner

[austintexanite]

The team just didn't get it done yesterday, not one person or two...the team.

 

[hollywood_texan]

Nope. No stealth tactics here.

You said it best yourself... "This offense can't".... Thats the point. Until "they" can score more.... Not just the QB position... QB's do not have to "win" or take over games by themselves.... See Trent Dilfer (or Brad Johnson if you like)... Baltimore does not win their SB without that D - that year. I don't recall them giving up back to back bombs on the first two possesions of a game, and giving up a game winning drive with under two minutes.

Insert (any QB you like) for Carr, the results would be identical. We just arent there yet. Period.

So what is easier to succeed at, building a defense for the ages like the Baltimore Ravens a few years ago, or improve the offense to score more than 24 points on a regular basis?

The defense you are advocating for the type of quarterback you described doesn't even come close to where this team can be anytime in the near future.

You are putting all the pressure on the defense and letting the offense off the hook, particularly David Carr.

The Bills game was lost on so many levels, including having $19 million a year in two guys that can't execute a typical West Coast Offense for 2 yards to seal the game. Carr and AJ had their chance and they blew it!

 

[kingh99]

59 of his 198 completions this season have been to our four running backs. Reggie Bush alone has 51 receptions this season.

So you enjoy watching David play football? Great for you. A lot of us want somebody else to root for. He's played in our world. He's shown us his upside and it's not enough. We are not pleased that he leads our hometown team. We think he's unable/not willing to make the tough throw. He thinks we love his toughness for pulling down the ball and running. We don't. We wish he could beat the hell out defenses with his arm. He obviously can't. His visits to the End Zone are too rare.

 

[El Tejano]

Big time players step up in big time situations.

A.) Right before the half, Carr had the team moving with some nice throws to Eric Moulds and Owen Daniels, but a fumble stopped our scoring drive.

B.) I believe it was in the 4th quarter 3rd down and like 4 or 7 (can't remember). Carr goes for a QB sneak all the way down to like the 5. Any score there wins the game. However, there was a holding penalty and that then resulted in a sack that led to a no score drive.

I'm not saying none of this was Carr's fault, I'm just saying that a loss like this has plenty of blame to go around.

 

[rmartin65]

How did Carr give us a chance to win? He didn't, that's how. Some of you Carr groupies amaze me with your excuses for the guy. One week it's because he has no running game, one week it's the o line, one week it's the D's fault for not forcing enough punts, another week it's crappy coaching, and one week it's because he can't stop fumbling and it's just a bad day that everyone has. What's it gonna be this week? Carr helping Chad Stanley pad his stats?

Carr made 1 real mistake. Carr completed passes, and until the last quarter kept the chains moving, most of the time.

 

[QB75]

If you think stats win games, Carr is your man. If you want a winning QB, try again. I guess I will just say it till I am blue in the face. This team will never consistently win big as long as Carr is the field general.

Yes they will. Carr will be fine. The rest of the team just needs be put together.

 

[Wolf]

Losman had to engineer a WINNING TD drive because he gave one away to Dunta. That IS a winner if you ask me.

The bottom line to winning is winning. The bottom line to losing is losing.

didn't we drop into a prevent defense too on that drive for some dumb reason?

 

[Wolf]

Carr could really make it easier on him and this MB by having cruddy stats so we could just bench him.

 

[IshouldbeGM]

Some of you Carr homers amaze me....I just dont understand, and never will understand how you can defend a qb who has an 18-48 record!! I may be off by a win or loss, but that record still sucks! You either have it or you dont man, and David is just not a winner. He's a nice guy I heard, but all I care about are wins and losses. The 22 completions in a row are nice, but as I stated earlier, Mark Brunell has the same record and he's benched now, so that stat means nothing. 18-48 is 18-48....30 games under .500, thats ridiculous! Its year 5 people, wakeup! We have a top 5 receiver in the game and one of the best #2 receivers in moulds, Carr should have more than 9 tds. Carr hasn't thrown for a td in 4 games! Say what you want about the defense giving up 2 bombs, but whats up with this offense under carr?? Why cant the texans ever avg more than 17 pts a game for a season? Carr does not have the ability to scan defenses and pick apart secondaries, thats why he's so quick to dump the ball to the running back. He did it with domanick davis under pendry/palmers offense, and now under kubiak....you CANNOT tell me this is a coincidence....last i checked pendy/palmer did not run the west coast offense. This is on David Carr not "thats our offense/gameplan" thats David's gameplan! We need to draft Troy Smith asap, he is the next Donovan Mcnabb!

 

[GP]

Some of you Carr homers amaze me....I just dont understand, and never will understand how you can defend a qb who has an 18-48 record!! I may be off by a win or loss, but that record still sucks! You either have it or you dont man, and David is just not a winner. He's a nice guy I heard, but all I care about are wins and losses. The 22 completions in a row are nice, but as I stated earlier, Mark Brunell has the same record and he's benched now, so that stat means nothing. 18-48 is 18-48....30 games under .500, thats ridiculous! Its year 5 people, wakeup! We have a top 5 receiver in the game and one of the best #2 receivers in moulds, Carr should have more than 9 tds. Carr hasn't thrown for a td in 4 games! Say what you want about the defense giving up 2 bombs, but whats up with this offense under carr?? Why cant the texans ever avg more than 17 pts a game for a season? Carr does not have the ability to scan defenses and pick apart secondaries, thats why he's so quick to dump the ball to the running back. He did it with domanick davis under pendry/palmers offense, and now under kubiak....you CANNOT tell me this is a coincidence....last i checked pendy/palmer did not run the west coast offense. This is on David Carr not "thats our offense/gameplan" thats David's gameplan! We need to draft Troy Smith asap, he is the next Donovan Mcnabb!

Your screen name says it all.

Anybody who boldly claims that they should be GM has got to be all about one thing: David sucks and I would dump him and go get ________ (enter the name of whomever is the hot QB prospect THIS college season).

Yeah, being GM is really thaaaaaaaaat easy. You'd do a swell job.

 

[GP]

So what is easier to succeed at, building a defense for the ages like the Baltimore Ravens a few years ago, or improve the offense to score more than 24 points on a regular basis?

The defense you are advocating for the type of quarterback you described doesn't even come close to where this team can be anytime in the near future.

You are putting all the pressure on the defense and letting the offense off the hook, particularly David Carr.

The Bills game was lost on so many levels, including having $19 million a year in two guys that can't execute a typical West Coast Offense for 2 yards to seal the game. Carr and AJ had their chance and they blew it!

What?

(sigh)

Carr blew it?

Man, it just keeps getting better.

I honestly think that David is the ONLY person you and some others will focus on. You guys say that the Carr homers have a man crush. You guys are dreaming about him more than us "homers" are because what you're saying is something out of fantasy land...you're DREAMING if you can sit there and honestly say that David Carr and even Andre Johnson were the reason we lost the game.

Goodness gracious. It's getting very comical around here.

David Carr just stole a dirty bomb is going to set it off at an elementary school!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! HE'S THAAAAAAAT POWERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!